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Lightaces

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lmao, ok alpha male, my bad. i know nothing about women, please educate me
You know the only place in nature where there is such a thing as an "alpha" male is prey animals. Deer, zebra, giraffes and the like. They fight and fight to get all the girls. But they get eaten by the family of wolves being led by the good, responsible mom and dad.
 
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Damn that was great and i completely missed this until now. :love:


NeonGhosts can you please link those short stories to the OP?
Sure, I'll do that!

Why would I have anything against Viola? :( My understanding was that she was a lesbian. She could also be bi, obviously, I don't know for sure, I'm just convinced she's a lesbian; even if she is bi, though, she could still lean towards women over men as many bi people have a preference. But, if she is a lesbian, her romance path would obviously have to be a considerable, if not impossible, challenge for the MC. So, really, her & Cassie should probably be the hardest, longest, most blue-balled romances of the game.

It may even turn out that her romance path will in the long-run be infertile ground for the MC. What I mean by that is that there are lesbian women who dabble in hetero relationships, and maybe even some who convince themselves they're bi, but discover that they're confusing feelings of closeness and friendly love with romantic love. She might in the end discover something like that and end up pulling away from MC eventually. There are tons of stories of married women doing something like that, being in denial or confused, even ashamed etc. And depending on her cultural views on homosexuality, that shame aspect might heavily influence her decisions.

Or maybe MC ends up being the confused one projecting his own feelings onto Viola, where Neon allows the player to interpret her behavior however they want; i.e., MC goes in for a kiss and... Viola reciprocates! Maybe the player can interpret it as "yeah, she's into me" when the reality is that she thinks the MC is a really sweet guy, but she's so afraid for her & her mother's financial situation that she's swept by MC's tide that she feels almost powerless to resist, too afraid to say no, and so on; power dynamics and all that.

I obviously am just pulling from my ass at this point, but it's fun to try and anticipate story & character beats for this game :)
It obviously wouldn't serve me to divulge too much about Viola's future story here. But, your observations are pretty astute, Phil. If the player has Viola masturbate in the dressing room in front of him, she says Gabby's name, only to pass it off as a Russian phrase that implies MC has a big dick. Plus, if you came into the clothing store with Gabby, and then later stop to pick up Viola in the rain, she'll immediately get in the car with you. On every other path, even the friendly ones, she's a little wary, despite Ashe's presence. So, it's safe to say she thinks pretty highly of Gabby, and anyone who'd associate with her.

As for what that means for her sexuality, there's lots of possibilities. Maybe she's bi, maybe she's straight with an exception (for Gabby), or maybe she's gay with an exception (for MC). I've talked about this before, but I'm a huge dork for romantic comedies, romance novels, etc. And there's this bit in the Jennifer Lopez/Matthew McConnaughey movie, The Wedding Planner, which I quite like. The main character's dad is explaining how he was married into an arranged marriage, and explains, "We couldn't even look at each other. I was in love with another girl and your mother wanted nothing to do with me. She said I had big eyebrows and a low IQ. Anyway, one day I got very sick with scarlet fever, and er, she stayed by my side. She took good care of me. For the first time, I appreciated her. Then the appreciation grew to respect. Respect grew to like. Then like grew to love. A deeper love than I could ever hope for."

Love isn't always a straight path -- pun intended. It's possible to have your heart set on one thing, only to find something else that makes you just as happy.

Honestly, all the love interests have serious complications standing in the way of them, and a relationship. Bad boyfriends, absent husbands, children, age gaps, substance abuse, crises of confidence, and on and on. But, I think that makes it more rewarding to achieve the romance ending with any of them. If each character was introduced as immediately horny for MC, with absolutely no complications in the way of a relationship, I think that'd get pretty boring pretty quickly.
 

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Sure, I'll do that!



It obviously wouldn't serve me to divulge too much about Viola's future story here. But, your observations are pretty astute, Phil. If the player has Viola masturbate in the dressing room in front of him, she says Gabby's name, only to pass it off as a Russian phrase that implies MC has a big dick. Plus, if you came into the clothing store with Gabby, and then later stop to pick up Viola in the rain, she'll immediately get in the car with you. On every other path, even the friendly ones, she's a little wary, despite Ashe's presence. So, it's safe to say she thinks pretty highly of Gabby, and anyone who'd associate with her.

As for what that means for her sexuality, there's lots of possibilities. Maybe she's bi, maybe she's straight with an exception (for Gabby), or maybe she's gay with an exception (for MC). I've talked about this before, but I'm a huge dork for romantic comedies, romance novels, etc. And there's this bit in the Jennifer Lopez/Matthew McConnaughey movie, The Wedding Planner, which I quite like. The main character's dad is explaining how he was married into an arranged marriage, and explains, "We couldn't even look at each other. I was in love with another girl and your mother wanted nothing to do with me. She said I had big eyebrows and a low IQ. Anyway, one day I got very sick with scarlet fever, and er, she stayed by my side. She took good care of me. For the first time, I appreciated her. Then the appreciation grew to respect. Respect grew to like. Then like grew to love. A deeper love than I could ever hope for."

Love isn't always a straight path -- pun intended. It's possible to have your heart set on one thing, only to find something else that makes you just as happy.

Honestly, all the love interests have serious complications standing in the way of them, and a relationship. Bad boyfriends, absent husbands, children, age gaps, substance abuse, crises of confidence, and on and on. But, I think that makes it more rewarding to achieve the romance ending with any of them. If each character was introduced as immediately horny for MC, with absolutely no complications in the way of a relationship, I think that'd get pretty boring pretty quickly.
I think I understand you. Thx for taking time to illuminate :D It's kinda sweet thinking of a romance with Viola being sort of like an arranged marriage. Maybe Gabby remains an unrequited love, and maybe Guy's romantic infatuation isn't shared at first, but Guy's not so bad in the long run, and her and her mom are taken care of financially. Seeds of change grow a fresh pair of eyes. It would definitely stand out with regards to relationship dynamics compared to the other LIs. I suck at baseball, though, so maybe I'm not catching this :LOL:
 

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You know the only place in nature where there is such a thing as an "alpha" male is prey animals. Deer, zebra, giraffes and the like. They fight and fight to get all the girls. But they get eaten by the family of wolves being led by the good, responsible mom and dad.
I think you misread/interpreted their comment. I'm pretty sure they're sarcastically referring to the other as an alpha, to lampoon that the other person probably buys into alpha/beta bullshit, not to assert that the other person isn't an "alpha"
 
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Joshy92

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I admit I also love romantic stories that try to be different
I feel like that is the case here
It's not just your typical girl meets boy story
The romance paths in this have heart & Soul imo

I really liked that insight into Viola's character
This game has some of the sweetest & Kindest girls in any game I have ever played
 
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Ragnar

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so viola is a lesbian then
As for what that means for her sexuality, there's lots of possibilities. Maybe she's bi, maybe she's straight with an exception (for Gabby), or maybe she's gay with an exception (for MC). I've talked about this before, but I'm a huge dork for romantic comedies, romance novels, etc.
 

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I'm referring to the fact that right up there with rape...women very often fantasize about other women., espeically the younger they are...well know statistical fact any grown experienced man should know/be aware of.

As for being an alpha, only beta's go around openly calling themselves alphas, I don't recall claiming I was anything.
 
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Honestly, all the love interests have serious complications standing in the way of them, and a relationship. Bad boyfriends, absent husbands, children, age gaps, substance abuse, crises of confidence, and on and on.
Woah, woah, woah. That's new actually!
I don't remember a single hint about an LI using substances, unless Trevor is an LI :LOL:

Who might it be?

The first that comes to mind is Pepper. It would be a stroke of genius for her to set up Trevor for stealing money to get drugs while she's the one doing it. On the other hand her whole character's archetype is made just for people to suspect her of doing it while she's not.

Alex comes second, because those gains don't come on their own and some help might be required. But she doesn't strike me as that type even if we barely met her.

What about Cassie? MC's yet to be introduced sister. We know nothing about her yet, but from the sparce detail I gathered here and there it could fit her as well. :unsure:
 
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women very often fantasize about other women., espeically the younger they are...well know statistical fact any grown experienced man should know/be aware of.
LEZZBEEANS!

Sexual domination and taming the monster fantasy. Never heard about hetero women fantasies about women. I've had some odd fantasy dreams as kid, but that is what they are dreams. I didn't get aroused because I dreamed about being the opposite gender. Still 100% straight. Also why should you be aware of what others fantasise about as a grown man?

I don't care to know what others dream about at all. The fact you do puzzles me.


As for being an alpha, only beta's go around openly calling themselves alphas, I don't recall claiming I was anything.
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Joshy92

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Neonghosts says every girl has complications standing in the way of a healthy relationship with the mc
But don't worry everyone that just means I have simp even harder for these beauties
Simping is tiring work
But I must ascend to the next level if I'm to help these lovely ladies
 

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Neonghosts says every girl has complications standing in the way of a healthy relationship with the mc
But don't worry everyone that just means I have simp even harder for these beauties
Simping is tiring work
But I must ascend to the next level if I'm to help these lovely ladies
 
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Dark Silence

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Neonghosts says every girl has complications standing in the way of a healthy relationship with the mc
But don't worry everyone that just means I have simp even harder for these beauties
Simping is tiring work
But I must ascend to the next level if I'm to help these lovely ladies
Well, shit. I'm not going to kiss ass(simp) to end the game with someone, so, it might be time to drop this.
 
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Reposting since this somehow got deleted with the off topic posts and i believe it is nice to have those here for people who don't check subscribestar or patreon. :)



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Dev Update 9/25/23
Hey, folks! How's everyone doing this week?
First, just in case you missed it: I put up a small Brittani photoset yesterday, available to all patrons -- starting at $2. Check it out if you haven't yet.
I don't have toooo much interesting stuff to share this week. I continue to write while picking away at the art for the opening scenes. I knew that this opening would be a bit of a pain due to the way I set it up at the end of the last chapter, buuuuut it doesn't make it any easier.
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"Five endings?! Five?! What were you thinking?!"

Still, all my usual gripes aside, I'm having fun with this one. I've had a lot of people caution me against splitting the narrative into too many possible directions, at the risk of having the work spiral out of control. And I think that's a totally valid fear. I've made no secret about the fact the last update really got away from me, and I'm working to avoid that in the next few updates.
But, I really enjoy watching as the story breaks off in interesting directions, presenting me (and you, the player!) with more opportunities and obstacles. I always thought it was kind of trite and twee when authors would do their whole, "Oh, these characters really write themselves.." thing.
But, I'm finding there is some truth to it. Except it's not so much the characters writing themselves, as it is me examining a situation, and really thinking about how the characters might respond to it. Sometimes that leads me down an interesting road, and I'm forced to write something in order to remain true to the characters.
Sometimes that means that I write a situation without fully considering the consequences, only to walk head-first into them a chapter or two later. There's one particular character who, if you have a bad relationship with them, might cause another relationship (or two) to sour. The images below are a big hint in that direction.
With that ominous warning, I'll leave you to enjoy the rest of your week! As always, take care of yourselves, and thank you for your support!
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