VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [S1 v0.85c] [NeonGhosts]

[Ragnar]

I didn't propose that the games are not realistic because the events never happen. I merely unpacked that they unfold in an unrealistic fashion. Often sanitized for consumption. For example, cases of incest, grooming, corruption, are often horrific and sickening rather than sexy so they need to be altered to appeal to the conventions of the kink. NTR needs to be repackaged from a tragedy into a comedy. Femdom often needs to create some kind of malefic all powerful matriarchial structure that doesn't exist. Harem, as mentioned, needs to make essential modifications to the basic needs that both men and women have in a relationship. Keep in mind, these conceits are a feature rather than a bug. They are part of the artifice, and their artificiality is what makes them entertaining.

You're right about the romanticization of kinks and themes in most avns, even if there are some crude exceptions. Still you can make believable scenarios from scratch for almost everything.
In example you play as a rich and young dude collecting instagram thots for your Harem. They're with the MC for the money but eh, It's a Harem afer all.
Harem doesn't work in FiN because it was never intended to be a Harem game. The girls and women in the game won't share, maybe a threesome here and there with the most adventurous but that is.

 

[TM | Twisted Games]

I might argue that FiN does incorporate a kind of harem, just not the typical (and in my opinion deeply boring) romantic type. If the MC has a collection of women all providing him sexual favors, all indebted to him and willing to take his direction...that could be construed as a type of harem I suppose. Doesn't require them to be romantic with each other, or even the MC. Frankly, it's the type of 'harem' I'd prefer to see more of.

 

[Joshy92]

I'm actually the opposite
I love romance
I don't even like it when the mc in these games calls a girl a whore or stuff like that.

Anyway
Is everyone else excited about going glasses shopping with Mason in the next update?
I'm going to pretend it's a date
Just you wait Mason, I'll take you on a nice romantic date eventually
The date will of course include handholding and lots of kisses

About harems I honestly don't like them
But I'll play almost anything if something I don't like is avoidable

 

[SlapE]

I think it's pointless arguing the Harem topic, it's beating a dead horse at this point. We know there won't be a romantic harem ending, at least not until after the game is complete, since it was mentioned maybe a bonus ending would be added afterwards.

We also know there will be romantic POLY endings, with like 2 or 3 girls, I doubt it will go beyond that considering the characters available. I'd say a poly relationship with 4 would be hopeful, and I'm struggling to think which 4 girls within the confines of the story so far would be willing to potentially partake in that sort of relationship. The only ones I can think of are Nicki, Mason, and likely Viola too. Some other potential but less likely candidates being Ashe and Brittani.

I get the feeling Gabby, Carolina, Madison, and Pepper are super unlikely to want a poly relationship, at least a romantic one. (Although Gabby and Viola throuple could be a thing... maybe) As far as Alex, Wren, Risa or Cassie go, we don't know much so no point in speculating on those four.

I think my dream poly ending would be, Nicki, Ashe, Mason, and Cassie. Since Ashe isn't likely though, I would settle for the other three.

 

[Joshy92]

I think it's pointless arguing the Harem topic, it's beating a dead horse at this point. We know there won't be a romantic harem ending, at least not until after the game is complete, since it was mentioned maybe a bonus ending would be added afterwards.

We also know there will be romantic POLY endings, with like 2 or 3 girls, I doubt it will go beyond that considering the characters available. I'd say a poly relationship with 4 would be hopeful, and I'm struggling to think which 4 girls within the confines of the story so far would be willing to potentially partake in that sort of relationship. The only ones I can think of are Nicki, Mason, and likely Viola too, some other potential but less likely candidates being Ashe and Brittani.

I get the feeling Gabby, Carolina, Madison, and Pepper are super unlikely to want a poly relationship, at least a romantic one. (Although Gabby and Viola throuple could be a thing... maybe) As far as Alex, Wren, Risa or Cassie go, we don't know much so no point in speculating on those four.

I think my dream poly ending would be, Nicki, Ashe, Mason, and Cassie. Since Ashe isn't likely though, I would settle for the other three.

Honestly, I'll be happy as long as I get romantic monogamous endings for Mason & Nicki

 

[Dessolos]

I'm actually the opposite
I love romance
I don't even like it when the mc in these games calls a girl a whore or stuff like that.


About harems I honestly don't like them
But I'll play almost anything if something I don't like is avoidable

Same here Joshy the only way I think I would actually want to play a harem if it was romantic and all the girls in it wanted to form a romantic harem with you instead of the MC trying to make said harem. But sometimes I will still play harem games just for the story and characters even if I don't like the idea of it.

 

[SlapE]

Honestly, I'll be happy as long as I get romantic monogamous endings for Mason & Nicki

Well, I guess you'll be very happy then since that's a no brainer.

 

[Deleted member 313508]

NTR or Cheating is realistic because cheating happens everyday.
Femdom is a kink, there are people into it like others are into whatever.
Corruption can be grooming or fucking your way up into your work place.
Harem, are you an oil prince or a mormon?
Incest, are you from Alabama?

For the record, I'm not advocating for a harem ending in this game. I don't think it would work based on the premise.

HOWEVER, all of the things you listed are more common than you suggest. They just aren't publicized because they are taboo most places in this day and age. Things like harems, grooming and incest have not gone away simply because they are frowned upon. They are just hidden now to avoid public backlash.

There are enough news stories of people going to jail for grooming and incest and stories of sex cults (modern day harems in my mind) to know these things do still exist, because the desire for them still exists in the minds of many.

 

[Dark Silence]

I might argue that FiN does incorporate a kind of harem, just not the typical (and in my opinion deeply boring) romantic type. If the MC has a collection of women all providing him sexual favors, all indebted to him and willing to take his direction...that could be construed as a type of harem I suppose. Doesn't require them to be romantic with each other, or even the MC. Frankly, it's the type of 'harem' I'd prefer to see more of.

I also prefer a harem to be like that. I'm not a fan of the polyamory harem. To me that's not a harem. Since 90% of harem games are polyamory, I'd rather just play solo romance games.

I love romance

About harems I honestly don't like them
But I'll play almost anything if something I don't like is avoidable

100% this. As I said above about harems. I know you love polyamory routes. *cough Maya cough Josy cough* But it is what it is. I don't judge others for what they like or dislike, even though when I say what I like or don't like, I get facepalmed by the fans who like or don't like whatever it is. They need to remember that I'm not pushing anything, I'm just saying my preferences.

 

[NewTricks]

I also prefer a harem to be like that. I'm not a fan of the polyamory harem. To me that's not a harem. Since 90% of harem games are polyamory, I'd rather just play solo romance games.


100% this. As I said above about harems. I know you love polyamory routes. *cough Maya cough Josy cough* But it is what it is. I don't judge others for what they like or dislike, even though when I say what I like or don't like, I get facepalmed by the fans who like or don't like whatever it is. They need to remember that I'm not pushing anything, I'm just saying my preferences.

Don't trouble yourself about the facepalms, sport. I certainly don't. If you don't get at least one facepalm you probably haven't said anything of substance. Plus, they are just counted the same as likes so it isn't like being downvoted on Reddit or something. So go ahead and voice your opinions on what you like and what you don't. Just realize that some things you don't like are an essential part of the game. Like Nikki. She isn't going anywhere... or is she? Heh heh heh.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Is everyone else excited about going glasses shopping with Mason in the next update?

 

[Ragnar]

For the record, I'm not advocating for a harem ending in this game. I don't think it would work based on the premise.

HOWEVER, all of the things you listed are more common than you suggest. They just aren't publicized because they are taboo most places in this day and age. Things like harems, grooming and incest have not gone away simply because they are frowned upon. They are just hidden now to avoid public backlash.

There are enough news stories of people going to jail for grooming and incest and stories of sex cults (modern day harems in my mind) to know these things do still exist, because the desire for them still exists in the minds of many.

I didn't deny that incest hapens but compared with cheating incest is rare outside of arranged marriage territory. Even in the case of arranged marriages it woud be between cousins, never between brothers for obvious reasons. Harem is even more rare than incest in the modern world.
But going back to game territory and Friends in Need, I only see Harem working in the corruption route if you force the girls into it. In the vanilla route I cant think of any girls being ok with anything beyond the casual threesome, and that would be only with open minded girls like Ashe or Brit.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

You can think whatever the fuck you want, it doesn't make it true. Polyromantic relationships are and will continue to be a thing regardless of your opinion on the matter. You think the girls that he cares about, who care about him, who he's helped out when they really needed help, are going to tell him to fuck off because they aren't the only one he cares about? And you are claiming realism?

You're zero fun to disagree with.
Before I reply to someone, I always remember that I'm on a forum for pixelated porn stories and so it's not something that demands such a snarky serious tone Otherwise, I would make myself cringe so hard. Just something to think about

 

[Dark Silence]

Like Nikki. She isn't going anywhere... or is she?

Oh, she is and then she'll come back. The neverending story with her and my RL sister. I'm starting to think NeonGhosts knows her. Neon, if she's around right now, tell her I miss her.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Oh, she is and then she'll come back. The neverending story with her and my RL sister. I'm starting to think NeonGhosts knows her. Neon, if she's around right now, tell her I miss her.

 

[darlic]

Just keep in mind they need to be Patreon-safe (no non-con, watersports, gore, etc.) and

Since when are watersports deemed as Patreon-unfriendly content? Please don't make the error of mixing non-con with other completely unrelated stuff.

 

[Master of Puppets]

You're zero fun to disagree with.
Before I reply to someone, I always remember that I'm on a forum for pixelated porn stories and so it's not something that demands such a snarky serious tone Otherwise, I would make myself cringe so hard. Just something to think about

How else is one supposed to react to "you're wrong because I think you're wrong"?

 

[TigerWolfe]

How else is one supposed to react to "you're wrong because I think you're wrong"?

Like this?

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Like this?

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but I already readied my pitchfork.

 

[Joshy92]

No watersports?
Guess we miss out on seeing Nicki or Mason peeing on the mc

Wait a minute is it only me who wants to see that?