Dessolos

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yeah same I hate the dark path as it's to much for me when playing as the MC. However ironically I be more okay if it was some NTR BS scene and became part of the story or something we help the LI deal with. Which is probably weird. But honestly only time id play the dark path personally would be once every new update just to see if there is a new consequences for the MC and id skip over the dark path lewd scenes.
 

Dessolos

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Mason is just a below average, unattractive flat chested chick with mental issues. This game could do so much better without her. Wasting development time on a divisive distraction. That's not what this VN needs.
While I have zero interest in mason as a LI I have to disagree because I find mason as a character is a good example of a character needed to show there how helping or fucked up of a person the MC can be. Because nothing is more fucked up than taking advantage of a homeless kid. Honestly mason is a decently written character so far.
 

Joshy92

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I love Nicky but honestly I think Mason is my favourite now
He is really hot and the fact that he is really sweet makes him even more beautiful
I would marry him in a heartbeat
 

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Mason is just a below average, unattractive flat chested chick with mental issues. This game could do so much better without her. Wasting development time on a divisive distraction. That's not what this VN needs.
Textbook definition of a hot take. :FacePalm:
I love Nicky but honestly I think Mason is my favourite now
He is really hot and the fact that he is really sweet makes him even more beautiful
I would marry him in a heartbeat
At this pace it won't be long before Joshy is simping for the whole game crew. :p:ROFLMAO:
 
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RainbowRobo

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Yeah. I used a strong word, for the strong feeling I have for it.
Completely valid. I could see how a lot of that content could evoke strong responses. But (and I can't stress this enough) i'm mostly just voicing my perspective in response to yours, not trying to down play yours at all.
It seems most often that there just exists content in games as a false choice, where no matter what you pick everything goes completely to the same place. But here for instance being awful to one character on your first meeting makes it so a later meeting she just isn't there, or less bad means she's just not super trusting of you in that moment. Which doesn't seem to be a big deal maybe, but at the very least meant to me that it had impact. I don't know where all paths lead, but it does feel like the choice matters because it does have weight beyond "no sexual interest, so this person fades into the background" that it seems like all the other games I can think of easily have.

Like mason is a great example, I want to be a supportive friend to him, and help him get back onto his own. Nothing more than that. But the cuddle option was kind of amazing, and after seeing the wig scene, i definitely want to make sure to give him all the cuddles. And that (if memory serves) was one of the least awful dark path parts. ... Though I have to admit i kind of really liked peppers negotiation and the subsequent payoff. I fear I might have to have a save just to see how that ultimately plays out.
 

NewTricks

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Oh thank the gods, I was beginning to think I was the ONLY person here who DIDN'T want to abuse the girls. And yeah, Mason is just too cute and sweet to let go of....
Well, even those who want to abuse all the girls can spare Mason because he is a boy. Call it a loophole instead of a butthole.
 

Joshy92

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Headpats with Mason?
Sign me up bros
I would do anything to him
Sixty-nine, Cowgirl, Anal and everything else I could think of
We wouldn't leave my house until I have worshipped every inch of his body
 
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PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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No there are at least 10 similarly confused individuals :p
Haha, my man :cool:

Nah, but honestly, I really like variety and I adore all the routes, every single one, for their own reasons.

The romance route gives the best wholesome erections and satisfactory story developments without a single tinge of guilt, yet you can still have kinky fun.

The corruption route (admittedly haven't played fully yet, but seen tid bits) satisfies the most selfish & lustful side of you where you don't wanna be horribly cruel or do anything super illegal, but you also don't feel like going through all the effort of courting these hoes.

And then the dark route lets you play with some of the darkest sexual fantasies that are extremely uncommon in VNs and usually extremely poorly written when they are encountered. It's completely normal of course to be infinitely put off by the dark route, but damn, I don't see how any non-con enjoyer could put any other game ahead of this one. It's what I've been seeking for a few years but could never find, so even if the dark route concludes earlier than the rest, I'm glad I have a game to come back to every few years or so when I'm jonesing for that kind of content.
 
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PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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Somehow I think gabby viola might be a path that's being set up. and honestly, pepper seems the most pragmatic for like... She'll compromise herself and justify it after, living with the rationalizations until they stop being rationalizations and just become acceptance.
It would be so fucking hot if Gabby & Viola 3some happened, but I'm not sure if Gabby would be up for it tbh. On Gabby's romance route, I could see MC coming back to his apartment after a good fuck with our chocolate princess and letting maid Viola suck her pussy juices off (still don't know anything about Viola, so this is pure guesswork obviously; oh god, or imagine if MC didn't tell her they did anal and she sucked her ass off instead :devilish:). So, Viola might get second-hand Gabby. But, as far as an actual threesome, we might only be able to get it on the corruption route... which might be an interesting and confusing affair, for both girls, but especially for Viola. On the one hand, Viola finally getting her Gabby on a platter... but on the other, if Gabby's not fully into it and is just doing it because of money... she might be disappointed and guilty during/afterwards... the infamous "post-nut clarity" in action.

And, yeah, I guess I kinda see your point with Pepper. She might also sort of be like a spitfire Nicki, where she aggressively vocalizes her displeasure, yet still goes along with it anyways even though she doesn't really want to. I mean, I guess to an extent they're all like that, or else we wouldn't have a corruption/dark route. Nicki & Brit stand out in that regard to me, though; they seem the most likely to confuse what others want from them with what they want themselves, if that makes sense. Mason too maybe once we find out more about him. The rest of the girls may also be meek in the face of MC's power he lords over them (in 2 routes anyways), but I think they know what they actually want in the end for the most part.
 

Joshy92

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Has Neon ever done a poll on patreon or subscribestar
To see who the most popular characters are?
I'm kind of curious who the most popular love interests are in those places
 

NewTricks

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I don't think that it is constructive to debate people with anti-trans views. Those comments are going to be deleted anyway, so it is a better use of your time to hit the report button to hasten that process rather than wade into the muck. People who dislike Mason based on these views and insist on gender and biologically assigned sex being the same thing are unlikely to be swayed by any posts on this forum. While it is tempting to educate people in this regard, maybe even in the hope that someone reading the posts may be swayed to a more reasonable position, anyone who has followed the JK Rowling saga knows that the result of calling someone out is usually just more obstinance.
 

Joshy92

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I know Mason is trans man. But is there any plans for a trans girl character in the future? ty
The dev has talked about this before
He said he won't introduce a trans girl

I can't remember the exact reason
But I think it's because he said he wouldn't be able to do a trans girl character any justice
Or something like that

I just know that he won't introduce a character like that
 

Joshy92

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I know it wasn't NeonGhosts intent but after playing this and falling in love with Mason
I had to research issues facing trans people
I didn't know anything before but after reading about all the crap trans people face
I was angry for days heck I still am

I think we can all agree that people should be treated with love & kindness
And if Mason wants people to consider him a man
Then I'll think of him as one
I don't care what science or whatever says
 
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