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Maviarab

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That is frustrating. :(
for sure. Normally doesn't bother me too much...ctr skip can be quick...but we're too far into this one with too many LI's and branching paths...bah...I do find it infuriating though when devs fuck about like this...hopefully it will be once and done...unlike some other VN's where every other update seems to require a damn restart.
 
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NeonGhosts

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I think he said that he's gonna focus on sound when the game is much further along or maybe even complete, I don't remember. But right now, no. You should give a shot anyways, though, you might be surprised :D
Yeahhh, this is one of those things where I want to do it right, or not at all. Just writing and doing the art takes a ton of time, so adding one more thing to the pile would just further slow development time. I mean, it took me a full day just to plug in 250 images, test a build, and blah blah blah.. Imagine if I had to add music and sound, too! ;_;

But, it'll get there eventually.

No, that's just the dark path, and it seems like most characters are eventually just going to run away (or worse) on those paths based on what we've seen so far. The 'corruption' paths aren't the same thing, like Gabby's sugar daddy path.
On this: a lot of the corruption paths start off as dark paths, including Gabby and Ashe's. Gabby will have the opportunity to pursue more of a nice/FWB sugarbaby path later, but for now it's kind of locked to the dark path. Likewise, Ashe's blackmail/corruption path begins as a pretty dubcon scenario. I'd like to try addressing this by basically splitting those early interactions into two paths: a dark one and a lighter one.

So, maybe instead of just punish-fucking Ashe as hard as he can, MC actually tries to make it good for her, too. She might leave still pissed at him, but now a little intrigued. Instead of coercing Gabby into giving him a handjob, maybe he eases into things with some reluctant making out and heavy petting.

I've been trying to be a little more cognizant of this as I go through later chapters, giving players the opportunity to be a little dark, without going whole hog. Paying Viola to strip and masturbate, strip-searching Pepper for "valid" reasons, etc.

I was under the impression the reworked chapter one comes with the next update, hence why he said it will break all saves (and why I was pissed as I have 17 save paths grrrr).
Nope, we've got one more chapter to go, and then the remake.

I totally get that it's annoying, and I understand why people would've wanted me to get into the remake earlier. But, I'm trying to get the story to a good cliffhanger ending, before I pull back and redo Chapter One. I want people to play this next one and feel hyped for what's coming -- enough so that they don't mind me moving backwards for a bit.

For anyone wondering why I need to redo the first chapter, there's a few reasons.
  • I don't think that first chapter is very strong, or indicative of what the game/story becomes, and reviews tend to bear that out.
  • I learned how to code in Ren'py while making this game, and it shows. I'll be able to do things like move all the variables into well-ordered groups, remove and add certain variables that'd make keep track of relationship dynamics easier, and break up the chapters into individual .rpy files, to keep better track of them.
  • With a pause in developing a new chapter, I can focus on cleaning up little things in the art, that I've never had the time to do properly. Viola still has her skin clipping through her shirt in some places, and that was like.. Six releases ago. :/
I get that it's frustrating, but I've put out seven releases at a pretty good pace, so hopefully folks can forgive me while I take some time to catch my breath, and work on some stuff that's been bugging me for the last two years.
 

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On this: a lot of the corruption paths start off as dark paths, including Gabby and Ashe's. Gabby will have the opportunity to pursue more of a nice/FWB sugarbaby path later, but for now it's kind of locked to the dark path. Likewise, Ashe's blackmail/corruption path begins as a pretty dubcon scenario. I'd like to try addressing this by basically splitting those early interactions into two paths: a dark one and a lighter one.

So, maybe instead of just punish-fucking Ashe as hard as he can, MC actually tries to make it good for her, too. She might leave still pissed at him, but now a little intrigued. Instead of coercing Gabby into giving him a handjob, maybe he eases into things with some reluctant making out and heavy petting.

I've been trying to be a little more cognizant of this as I go through later chapters, giving players the opportunity to be a little dark, without going whole hog. Paying Viola to strip and masturbate, strip-searching Pepper for "valid" reasons, etc.
Thanks for the clarification, and it's cool that you're going to address this by adding some branching to the early interactions to get to the corruption paths differently. I've not been playing the dark paths, and the only corruption paths I have a save for are the Nicki submission path and the Viola corruption path (forget what it's called).
 

La Dani

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Thanks for the clarification, and it's cool that you're going to address this by adding some branching to the early interactions to get to the corruption paths differently. I've not been playing the dark paths, and the only corruption paths I have a save for are the Nicki submission path and the Viola corruption path (forget what it's called).
OMG, now I think I need the walktrough to test some other paths.
 
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Maviarab

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OMG, now I think I need the walktrough to test some other paths.
It's the only way really to make sure you get on certain specific paths...why I have so many saves heh. There really is a lot of branching in this...it's a very well written and complex VN, mnore than it appears at first look.

Yeahhh, this is one of those things where I want to do it right, or not at all. Just writing and doing the art takes a ton of time, so adding one more thing to the pile would just further slow development time. I mean, it took me a full day just to plug in 250 images, test a build, and blah blah blah.. Imagine if I had to add music and sound, too! ;_;

But, it'll get there eventually.



On this: a lot of the corruption paths start off as dark paths, including Gabby and Ashe's. Gabby will have the opportunity to pursue more of a nice/FWB sugarbaby path later, but for now it's kind of locked to the dark path. Likewise, Ashe's blackmail/corruption path begins as a pretty dubcon scenario. I'd like to try addressing this by basically splitting those early interactions into two paths: a dark one and a lighter one.

So, maybe instead of just punish-fucking Ashe as hard as he can, MC actually tries to make it good for her, too. She might leave still pissed at him, but now a little intrigued. Instead of coercing Gabby into giving him a handjob, maybe he eases into things with some reluctant making out and heavy petting.

I've been trying to be a little more cognizant of this as I go through later chapters, giving players the opportunity to be a little dark, without going whole hog. Paying Viola to strip and masturbate, strip-searching Pepper for "valid" reasons, etc.



Nope, we've got one more chapter to go, and then the remake.

I totally get that it's annoying, and I understand why people would've wanted me to get into the remake earlier. But, I'm trying to get the story to a good cliffhanger ending, before I pull back and redo Chapter One. I want people to play this next one and feel hyped for what's coming -- enough so that they don't mind me moving backwards for a bit.

For anyone wondering why I need to redo the first chapter, there's a few reasons.
  • I don't think that first chapter is very strong, or indicative of what the game/story becomes, and reviews tend to bear that out.
  • I learned how to code in Ren'py while making this game, and it shows. I'll be able to do things like move all the variables into well-ordered groups, remove and add certain variables that'd make keep track of relationship dynamics easier, and break up the chapters into individual .rpy files, to keep better track of them.
  • With a pause in developing a new chapter, I can focus on cleaning up little things in the art, that I've never had the time to do properly. Viola still has her skin clipping through her shirt in some places, and that was like.. Six releases ago. :/
I get that it's frustrating, but I've put out seven releases at a pretty good pace, so hopefully folks can forgive me while I take some time to catch my breath, and work on some stuff that's been bugging me for the last two years.
Ahh I must have misunderstood a previous post of yours. Exploring every single path/route/branch in your excellent Vn takes time, so I will unfortunately be skipping the next update then....I'll wait for the chapter one rework and then catch up with all the saves I have knowing I (hopefully) won't need to do all that again.

Regardless, it wasn't a slight, this is one of my favourite VN's with one of my favourite VN characters, I'll look forward to where it eventually heads.
 

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With a pause in developing a new chapter, I can focus on cleaning up little things in the art, that I've never had the time to do properly. Viola still has her skin clipping through her shirt in some places, and that was like.. Six releases ago. :/
Speaking of fixing old things, did you get around to fixing the plot holes with Brittani's photos?
 

Dessolos

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Quick question, is this game has the option the name your saves?
Not sure but I find it easier to just name the Page instead of saves as most games want you to re input the name and it gets annoying. Just incase you didn't know that was a thing took me a while to find that one out.
 

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Yeahhh, this is one of those things where I want to do it right, or not at all. Just writing and doing the art takes a ton of time, so adding one more thing to the pile would just further slow development time. I mean, it took me a full day just to plug in 250 images, test a build, and blah blah blah.. Imagine if I had to add music and sound, too! ;_;

But, it'll get there eventually.



On this: a lot of the corruption paths start off as dark paths, including Gabby and Ashe's. Gabby will have the opportunity to pursue more of a nice/FWB sugarbaby path later, but for now it's kind of locked to the dark path. Likewise, Ashe's blackmail/corruption path begins as a pretty dubcon scenario. I'd like to try addressing this by basically splitting those early interactions into two paths: a dark one and a lighter one.

So, maybe instead of just punish-fucking Ashe as hard as he can, MC actually tries to make it good for her, too. She might leave still pissed at him, but now a little intrigued. Instead of coercing Gabby into giving him a handjob, maybe he eases into things with some reluctant making out and heavy petting.

I've been trying to be a little more cognizant of this as I go through later chapters, giving players the opportunity to be a little dark, without going whole hog. Paying Viola to strip and masturbate, strip-searching Pepper for "valid" reasons, etc.



Nope, we've got one more chapter to go, and then the remake.

I totally get that it's annoying, and I understand why people would've wanted me to get into the remake earlier. But, I'm trying to get the story to a good cliffhanger ending, before I pull back and redo Chapter One. I want people to play this next one and feel hyped for what's coming -- enough so that they don't mind me moving backwards for a bit.

For anyone wondering why I need to redo the first chapter, there's a few reasons.
  • I don't think that first chapter is very strong, or indicative of what the game/story becomes, and reviews tend to bear that out.
  • I learned how to code in Ren'py while making this game, and it shows. I'll be able to do things like move all the variables into well-ordered groups, remove and add certain variables that'd make keep track of relationship dynamics easier, and break up the chapters into individual .rpy files, to keep better track of them.
  • With a pause in developing a new chapter, I can focus on cleaning up little things in the art, that I've never had the time to do properly. Viola still has her skin clipping through her shirt in some places, and that was like.. Six releases ago. :/
I get that it's frustrating, but I've put out seven releases at a pretty good pace, so hopefully folks can forgive me while I take some time to catch my breath, and work on some stuff that's been bugging me for the last two years.
Yeah, I personally play music in the BG when I'm playing these games, so sound is never in my priority list as a player. I'm 1000% satisfied with the writing and renders. But I look forward to seeing what you do with the audio on yours when the time comes! :D

Also, learned a new term: 'dubcon'
Interesting.. lol
 

Dessolos

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yeah I just play some random lofi music from youtube when I see a game without sound.
 

Joshy92

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I never notice stuff like plot holes
I'm too busy imagining all the romantic things I can do for these beautiful sweethearts
 

jw1221

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Late to this game but the Brittani corruption/humiliation path scene is one of the hottest scenes ever. Getting to show her what she will have to do to realize her dreams while cucking her annoying boyfriend was great. Hopefully we get to have many more shoots with her and persuade her that porn might be the best career path for her.
 

Jin-Woo'

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Well it depends, if you're into romance you aren't going to be romancing all the girls at the same time at a certain point at least, once things get more serious and they start wanting commitment. However, Neon has mentioned in the past about plans to do a 'corruption' harem ending, it won't be one based on the foundation of love, but one created with the girls based on the promise of wealth, power, security, fame, and/or luxury.

If you're fine with that kind of harem then, perhaps you would enjoy it, however even on the more loving/romantic side of things, there will be poly relationships that will be possible. These would likely include both open relationships, where you'll be able to date multiple girls and they'll be fine with it, or possible polyamorous relationships where you will be in a three-way/four-way relationship with multiple women at the same time. (These poly relationships could possibly include Mason too, figured it was worth mentioning since I kept saying girls/women) :p

Who knows for sure how all these relationships will develop and play out, only time will tell. It's an amazing game anyways and definitely worth checking out. ;)
No corruption route HAREM for me if it's not love/affection then it's no use to use the money and power to get all women.but overall GREAT VN i played the latest update looking forward to upcoming updates.;)(y)
 
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Jin-Woo'

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This question doesn't make sense at all: it will take years and years before reaching its end.
I don't care if this VN ENDS IN 10 freaking years :sneaky:;)I mean in the EPILOGUE we can only choose ONE LI to be together FOREVER until death do them apart.:ROFLMAO::poop:
 
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