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sagerock820

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Yeah, because not liking your opinion makes someone a Nazi.
I don't want to get into a discussion about this again, but since you play the "I'm oh so innocent, you guys are mean" -card, let me explain why people think your comment is bigoted.
People like you think that just adding a trans-character into any form of media is politics, that's not the case. As long as the character is well-written and fits into the story, it's nothing but reflecting reality.
Because as much as some people want to simply ignore the existence of transpeople or non-binary people, they exist and so having one in your story isn't political in itself, it's just showing the world as it is.
It would honestly be more political if you had a certain amount of characters and all were just heterosexual cis-gender people, because that would be unlikely in today's world in a relatively large city.

Now, if Neonghost had 2 transgender characters and 3 non-binary characters, and one asexual and two pansexual characters, then you might have a point, because that would really mean shoving it into people's faces. But there is just one character and Mason fits very well into the cast, they are almost all people in need that the MC wants to help for reasons, depending on the direction of your playthrough, that goes for Mason as well.
Nothing he experiences or has experienced is unrealistic, this is all stuff that happens to TG people, if you show something that exists, without overdoing it or making it worse than it is, how is this political?

And I mean, you can even go and address Mason as a Girl, he will not like it, but you can do it, so you can even play as someone who doesn't accept that gender can be defined as more than just pure biology.
If Neonghost were all political and pushing an agenda, he wouldn't offer that option.
Well said! (y)
 

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I finished the update ,
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overall i enjoyed the update, It clearly builds up characters to another episodes which is good for the story , also i don't mind lewd scenes being less this update, even if this game doesn't have, i'm okay the story interesting for me so far thats why i like the game the lewds just bonus
 

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I finished the update ,
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overall i enjoyed the update, It clearly builds up characters to another episodes which is good for the story , also i don't mind lewd scenes being less this update, even if this game doesn't have, i'm okay the story interesting for me so far thats why i like the game the lewds just bonus
Indeed, it was an awesome update.

I'm looking forward to helping Risa however I can.
And you are right Brittani's mum is very mean.
I know I normally simp for every pretty girl, but I won't be simping for her.
 

Dessolos

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Indeed, it was an awesome update.

I'm looking forward to helping Risa however I can.
And you are right Brittani's mum is very mean.
I know I normally simp for every pretty girl, but I won't be simping for her.
* Gasp * i've yet to play the update but I never thought I would hear Joshy not simping for someone I can't wait to find out what she did to be on the no simp list.
 

HPYY

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I love Brittani's storyline (the photoshoot girl, If I'm wrong) and it was an impressive surprise to see that she has a glamorous and dirty mom from, maybe Eastern Europe, Slovakia, Melania Trump?? I love it when she is using her sex appeal to bring us down to be her pet or something but she doesn't know that actually we are the most dangerous dude ever. The real pimp. I hope next update we get to explore Brittani and her mom some more. I believe they are the popular characters of this game right now. I love the transition of her photoshoot into the acting industry. Casting couch and industry connection and stuff. We should buy a movie studio and direct films
 

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I have never played the dark path and likely never will. Rapes not my bag I'm just saying YES there could be a realistic dark path it just can't be rape rape rape. Realistic would be (power corrupts not porn logic look at every communist community. they are supposed to be equal but the leaders get fat while ditch diggers starve.) YES, she's turned down a rich dude in store before her trouble. Yes, she ran away from ONE abusive relationship with Brint. But, she was kicked out of the other with Vaune. (This is what we know she only came back because richie mik sad fuck ran away on her not the other way around.
Living in his house being his pin up doll I would call a relationship especially when she never said anything bad about him.)

So, she stayed in an abusive relationship for money.(Vaune) She left an abusive relationship because he had no money.(Brint) See there is a patern that works for the narritive. And one thing neither of them had was her friendship and love.
I'm saying that the traditional role up on her and furce fuck her is off the table. But one where you make her dependent and reliant on MC due to manipulation and faking feelings to keep her wouldn't be and could pretty easily be written without any dispintion of disbelief. It just can't be rape fest 2024 (Not to mention she's a nerd that reads Doujinshi. Meaning she's likely looked up some nuts shit to jill off to.)

Edit: I'll add my psychosis theory for Vaune as well he's an in cell that picks up innocent looking girls. Photographs them and gets sick thrill out of corrupting her making her do more and more until she stops reacting and accepts it. When she accepts it that's when games over and he moves on to the next one.
Oh ok, I guess I misunderstood you. If you just meant 'dark route' as in manipulation, blackmail, maybe some fucked up sex every once in a while, then yeah, I definitely agree it can go on for a very long time. And based on my understanding, a route like that isn't ending anytime soon. What you're describing sounds most like the corruption route to me, but I'm not entirely sure what it looks like in the code; corruption route? dark corruption route? less extreme dark route? not sure. So, I was really only talking about the people defending a route that involves choosing the most BRUTAL option every single time and expecting that to go on indefinitely. If you're not one of those, then my bad :)

The brutal stuff was fun for a bit, and I guess I could imagine myself having fun with it for longer than is planned, but I think Neon's reasoning against it has a point. Plus, most importantly, it sounds like he just would be miserable writing that for too long, which is very understandable. Not directed at you necessarily, but if players really want to see a game continue on to completion, they have to realize that a dev only (or mostly) creating content that he actually wants to create is an integral part of that pact.

Most people have a hard time tying to change their ways during adulthood, but traumatic events like a near death experience can change people lives 180º. Nicki and most characters in FiN are going through some kind of life changing trauma, even Guy becoming a millionaire is a good reason to introduce big changes in his way of life.
I only meant the idea that Nicki becoming just as dark and fucked up as psychotic Guy doesn't make any sense. Sure, it's possible I guess that she is into darker stuff that she never realized she was into until Guy 'showed her the truth' or w/e. But that can quickly become really corny and totally not believable imo. That kind of thing comes down to personality, is my understanding. Dark triads get sexual pleasure from the abuse of others, not normal people usually (talking about in RL; digital fantasy is a whole different ballgame). Maybe extreme cases of abuse and trauma can affect that. Dark Guy has certainly doled a lot of that out, but I think huge personality shifts might require something closer to torture, long-term kidnappings, trauma like that.. just my opinion.

Well do not want to go deep into what you say since I agree with most within reason though on darker path Nicki actually does accept quite a lot from her various abusers without getting away and then makes pretty bad choices as well. Especially the tattoos against her wish, well that goes way further as sex for a non-virgin if we talk about remolding someone....
My other responses up above should clarify my argument. I think we agree?
 

varage

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Maybe you should learn to read better then....*shrugs*

First chapter is being done...it does not flow well..and makes the MC look like an ass. When reworked, you will have the option to give her the money and not have sex as part of the deal (much, much better way). This is non negotiable and will be the next update whether you like it or not. (saves will also break at this point btw...bear that in mind).

Any other reworks will be done after the game is complete.

Simple enough to understand?
Does that do away with third sex scene with her when she interrupt's your knuckle session as well because without first sex scene the second sex scene seems highly inappropriate lol.
 
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Here's a quick Android port from me. The patch is integrated + added some more game settings (textsize, outlines, named saves, toggle side image etc)

Jan. 1, 2024
Updated my Android port for the new game version v0.55 + made "Mod only" downloads for PC use, too.
Info: I added a button for the dark path game option. Be aware changes there are not immediately reflected in the game, it's better to do that at the beginning.



Download Mod v0.55 (~1MB)
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Android port from the game compressed v0.55 (~950MB)
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What is the dark path game option?
 
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Oh ok, I guess I misunderstood you. If you just meant 'dark route' as in manipulation, blackmail, maybe some fucked up sex every once in a while, then yeah, I definitely agree it can go on for a very long time. And based on my understanding, a route like that isn't ending anytime soon. What you're describing sounds most like the corruption route to me, but I'm not entirely sure what it looks like in the code; corruption route? dark corruption route? less extreme dark route? not sure. So, I was really only talking about the people defending a route that involves choosing the most BRUTAL option every single time and expecting that to go on indefinitely. If you're not one of those, then my bad :)

The brutal stuff was fun for a bit, and I guess I could imagine myself having fun with it for longer than is planned, but I think Neon's reasoning against it has a point. Plus, most importantly, it sounds like he just would be miserable writing that for too long, which is very understandable. Not directed at you necessarily, but if players really want to see a game continue on to completion, they have to realize that a dev only (or mostly) creating content that he actually wants to create is an integral part of that pact.


I only meant the idea that Nicki becoming just as dark and fucked up as psychotic Guy doesn't make any sense. Sure, it's possible I guess that she is into darker stuff that she never realized she was into until Guy 'showed her the truth' or w/e. But that can quickly become really corny and totally not believable imo. That kind of thing comes down to personality, is my understanding. Dark triads get sexual pleasure from the abuse of others, not normal people usually (talking about in RL; digital fantasy is a whole different ballgame). Maybe extreme cases of abuse and trauma can affect that. Dark Guy has certainly doled a lot of that out, but I think huge personality shifts might require something closer to torture, long-term kidnappings, trauma like that.. just my opinion.


My other responses up above should clarify my argument. I think we agree?
Yeah, Dark Guy is Patrick Bateman territory. I can't see Nicki being his partner in crime in that route, she's clearly a sub in all her routes. From the girls available right now the only one that shows some interest in the dark stuff is Brittani, if you bring sub Nicki to the photo session.
That can be interesting to explore, some corruption route in which one of the girls embrace it and helps Guy to keep the other bitches in line :BootyTime:
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Yeah, Dark Guy is Patrick Bateman territory. I can't see Nicki being his partner in crime in that route, she's clearly a sub in all her routes. From the girls available right now the only one that shows some interest in the dark stuff is Brittani, if you bring sub Nicki to the photo session.
That can be interesting to explore, some corruption route in which one of the girls embrace it and helps Guy to keep the other bitches in line :BootyTime:
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Yeah, at most I could see Nicki tolerating dark Guy's sadism onto others. But even then... she seems like the type that is very open to enduring her own suffering, but is obviously opposed to the suffering of others like any normal human being. She seems contradictorily tough and weak all at once. I don't understand her character enough yet to decide whether she'd tolerate the abuse of others, too, or if she'd vehemently fight it. I could see both.

Interesting you say that about Brittani. I feel the opposite, actually. She feels like someone that's been the victim of abuse since a young age. Well, that's what I imagine in my head, anyways. That explains some of her odd or forward behavior to me. I think her step-father was inappropriate with her...

But yeah, I'm looking forward to that kind of sidekick. Brit's mom is definitely going to be a crossroads demon in that regard :LOL: And Brit's boyfriend's.. helper or w/e, she's going to be another one. :devilish:
 
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