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Master of Puppets

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Neon mentioned he will push chapter 9 and 10 then take a break so he doesn't burn out i think while pausing Patreon , then work on the rework of chapter 1 .
You may say its counterproductive but the state of chapters later on compare to chapter 1 is like another league so fixing it is nice.
You don't get it, it's counterproductive to delay the rework. If it's going to force everyone to start over, it ought to be pushed out as soon as possible.
 

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You don't get it, it's counterproductive to delay the rework. If it's going to force everyone to start over, it ought to be pushed out as soon as possible.
at this point yep i might see your point but Neon already finished a big chunk of ch9 and the cutting part for 10 so he finishes them both then work later on for the rework.
 
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So what's the state of play with this currently? Seems the rework is being pushed back and new updates are being pushed out...despite the rework going to force everyone to restart as it will break saves.

Seems counter productive to me...??? Is the rework coming soon or are we getting yet another update first?
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I still think the roadmap is the same, minus the dates since updates got longer, but in terms of the plan CH1 remake was always supposed to happen after the Gabby/Madison/Jailbreak
 
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PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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You don't get it, it's counterproductive to delay the rework. If it's going to force everyone to start over, it ought to be pushed out as soon as possible.
If he had never pushed back content, everyone would still have to restart their games after chp. 10's content (which would've just been chp. 9 before). They're restarting after the same content break, it will just be months later.

TBH, if the game were as clunky as other ones on here, I'd agree. But skipping through this game and making choices takes practically no time at all. Minor frustration imo.
 
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If he had never pushed back content, everyone would still have to restart their games after chp. 10's content (which would've just been chp. 9 before). They're restarting after the same content break, it will just be months later.

TBH, if the game were as clunky as other ones on here, I'd agree. But skipping through this game and making choices takes practically no time at all. Minor frustration imo.
Huge frustration if you have the amount of saves I have....which I imagine many do, or at least saves for each single LI...especially if after certain specific rouites, it is not a simple case of quickly skipping through at all.

Adding more content that will be forced to replay again, to me, is massively counter productive. You know the rework needs doing, you know you're going to do it....so just do it, get it out of the way then continue with new content.

I've just stopped playing completely until it's done....breaking saves due to code changes etc is fine after your third update (still pisses me off as any dev should know better) but doing it so far into development...no excuse imo, especially when you know it needs to be done and have informed your playerbase it's what you will be doing.

Just not acceptable at this stage.
 

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Huge frustration if you have the amount of saves I have....which I imagine many do, or at least saves for each single LI...especially if after certain specific rouites, it is not a simple case of quickly skipping through at all.
Which would be a logical approach if this projects (i mean all the Ren'Py self publications and similars) weren't a forever ongoing development spanning for years and way too often getting abandoned.
Having been around the 'hobby' for some years i resolved to just play as manslut as i can not caring of routes, for games i will likely never see the ending of. Then if a game gets complete i play LIs routes more coherently.

The problem is, thinking back, i'm not sure if i've ever seen the final version of any game i started to play when it was still ongoing. Maybe a couple? I should check.
 

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Huge frustration if you have the amount of saves I have....which I imagine many do, or at least saves for each single LI...especially if after certain specific rouites, it is not a simple case of quickly skipping through at all.

Adding more content that will be forced to replay again, to me, is massively counter productive. You know the rework needs doing, you know you're going to do it....so just do it, get it out of the way then continue with new content.

I've just stopped playing completely until it's done....breaking saves due to code changes etc is fine after your third update (still pisses me off as any dev should know better) but doing it so far into development...no excuse imo, especially when you know it needs to be done and have informed your playerbase it's what you will be doing.

Just not acceptable at this stage.
True, lots of saves will exacerbate. I have a number of saves too. I still don't think it will be that big of a deal. I've restarted this game once or twice before because I changed my mind about something. It took maybe 10m of my time, at most.

And, he realized chp. 1 needed to be re-rendered + the code needed to be cleaned later into development. He put it in the schedule and that schedule is still getting followed, just delayed. This feels like perfectly normal project development stuff to me.

It's his first game, man. He's learned as he went. And it's a great game. That's plenty excuse for me. I think the real problem is that none of us develop games, we just armchair them. I mean, have you ever noticed how kind & supportive most devs are to each other? They're all brothers-in-arms :LOL:

Which would be a logical approach if this projects (i mean all the Ren'Py self publications and similars) weren't a forever ongoing development spanning for years and way too often getting abandoned.
Having been around the 'hobby' for some years i resolved to just play as manslut as i can not caring of routes, for games i will likely never see the ending of. Then if a game gets complete i play LIs routes more coherently.

The problem is, thinking back, i'm not sure if i've ever seen the final version of any game i started to play when it was still ongoing. Maybe a couple? I should check.
Many of us are still waiting for our VN Neo to arrive. Hey, wait.. Neo.. Neon..Ghosts... hm :unsure:
 
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Something else I think would be hot is watching Nicki finger herself. And after she finishes I'll suck her tasty juices off her wet fingers.
It's so hot seeing women touching themselves like that.
 

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good thing i play the nice Guy path. there will be nothing but a cuck bitch in Brent's future. hopefully we get more side stories where Brent is following Guy and Nicki on their dates and has to helplessly watch as they do sexy stuff in public. love to have Guy see him watching, tap Nicki on the head and tell her the cuck is back, which makes Nicki do even more naughty things with him while flipping Brent the bird..#BRENTISACUCKBITCH
 

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Have you ever considered that if one playes the dark path, when Nicki's ex BF says that MC is a shit person and he has to stop him, he's actually right and therefore he's the hero of the story?
It would honestly be really cool if dark path MC is what ends up changing & redeeming Brent for the better. And him & Nicki work together and fuck evil Guy like he deserves. Hell, even Brit's bf.

I know there's a # of dark pathers that think they should be able to come out on top in the end, and maybe Neon has some plans for that, who can say. But on the dark path, I think the story demands some justice for the victims. And I love the dark path, but it will feel good to see him fall.
 
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