VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.10 v0.71] [NeonGhosts]

[NebulousShooter]

You already know my feelings about Risa, so bias aside(I hope), this was the first time in this game when I rolled my eyes at the over the top try-hard storyline and justifications she was throwing. I feel like the game tries way to hard to make her appear more complex than she is and it kinda makes her look like she has split personality when she switches from tragic damsel to manipulative flirt. I also saw 'the twist' coming a mile away and still didn't believe it will be this

From downplaying her fault in the trafficking, to the fact that she is mostly portrayed as smart and resourceful, yet was too dumb to realize what was going on, to the interesting detail that she seems to be the only Junkie girl Lucien doesn't sexually abuse, everything seems so far fetched that it takes me out of it. The game really, really wants you to like and care about Risa.

That aside I take back what I said about introducing Lucien too late in the story. I was wrong.

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Sure, I wanted to punch him since his first preview, but now I hate him so much that I would make a dark Guy playthrough if it meant that I could get to kill him in a brutal and slow way, down the line.

Edit: I hope the Pepper Twin 'Retcon' stays and its not a bait and switch. I hated her being a camwhore, for me it has joined to form the trifecta of overused tropes, cheated MC backstory, Raped LI backstory and now OF/Camwhore LI.

 

[Dessolos]

You already know my feelings about Risa, so bias aside(I hope), this was the first time in this game when I rolled my eyes at the over the top try-hard storyline and justifications she was throwing. I feel like the game tries way to hard to make her appear more complex than she is and it kinda makes her look like she has split personality when she switches from tragic damsel to manipulative flirt. I also saw 'the twist' coming a mile away and still didn't believe it will be this

From downplaying her fault in the trafficking, to the fact that she is mostly portrayed as smart and resourceful, yet was too dumb to realize what was going on, to the interesting detail that she seems to be the only Junkie girl Lucien doesn't sexually abuse, everything seems so far fetched that it takes me out of it. The game really, really wants you to like and care about Risa.

That aside I take back what I said about introducing Lucien too late in the story. I was wrong.

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Sure, I wanted to punch him since his first preview, but now I hate him so much that I would make a dark Guy playthrough if it meant that I could get to kill him in a brutal and slow way, down the line.

Edit: I hope the Pepper Twin 'Retcon' stays and its not a bait and switch. I hated her being a camwhore, for me it has joined to form the trifecta of overused tropes, cheated MC backstory, Raped LI backstory and now OF/Camwhore LI.

eh I don't think she was downplaying her fault in it at all since she literally tried to kill her self because of it But yeah I can see if you already have a negative bias for her this update isn't going to make things any better since the games wants you to try to at least help her because of how horrible Lucien is. But yeah I did think it was a bit weird how she was never a trafficking victim of Lucien. I want to assume she was at some point and just didn't want to reveal it but that kind of goes against the dialogue.

 

[Joshy92]

You already know my feelings about Risa, so bias aside(I hope), this was the first time in this game when I rolled my eyes at the over the top try-hard storyline and justifications she was throwing. I feel like the game tries way to hard to make her appear more complex than she is and it kinda makes her look like she has split personality when she switches from tragic damsel to manipulative flirt. I also saw 'the twist' coming a mile away and still didn't believe it will be this

From downplaying her fault in the trafficking, to the fact that she is mostly portrayed as smart and resourceful, yet was too dumb to realize what was going on, to the interesting detail that she seems to be the only Junkie girl Lucien doesn't sexually abuse, everything seems so far fetched that it takes me out of it. The game really, really wants you to like and care about Risa.

That aside I take back what I said about introducing Lucien too late in the story. I was wrong.

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Sure, I wanted to punch him since his first preview, but now I hate him so much that I would make a dark Guy playthrough if it meant that I could get to kill him in a brutal and slow way, down the line.

Edit: I hope the Pepper Twin 'Retcon' stays and its not a bait and switch. I hated her being a camwhore, for me it has joined to form the trifecta of overused tropes, cheated MC backstory, Raped LI backstory and now OF/Camwhore LI.

I'm actually a bit upset about that camgirl stuff. For once I thight we could have a romantic storyline around it.
Other games have handled it really bad.

 

[Dessolos]

I'm actually a bit upset about that camgirl stuff. For once I thight we could have a romantic storyline around it.
Other games have handled it really bad.

same here Joshy I can't think of any LI in another AVN that actually has camgirl storyline that doesn't get dropped or they keep it up while being in a relationship and include it as part of the relationship. Since most I have came across are side girls. At least from the ones ive played so far. that's something I really want to see. So because of that im more interested Peppers twin than Pepper

 

[Joshy92]

same here Joshy I can't think of any LI in another AVN that actually has camgirl storyline that doesn't get dropped or they keep it up while being in a relationship and include it as part of the relationship. Since most I have came across are side girls. At least from the ones ive played so far. that's something I really want to see. So because of that im more interested Peppers twin than Pepper

Hey dude I can't remember has Guy ever eaten any of these beautiful angels out?

 

[Darklord1234]

That seemed really short. Did I miss something?

 

[Dessolos]

Hey dude I can't remember has Guy ever eaten any of these beautiful angels out?

Just did a quick speed run to look at lewds I probably missed some but from what I saw it looks like he has only done that to Ashe

 

[NebulousShooter]

eh I don't think she was downplaying her fault in it at all since she literally tried to kill her self because of it But yeah I can see if you already have a negative bias for her this update isn't going to make things any better since the games wants you to try to at least help her because of how horrible Lucien is. But yeah I did think it was a bit weird how she was never a trafficking victim of Lucien. I want to assume she was at some point and just didn't want to reveal it but that kind of goes against the dialogue.

I meant more like the game downplaying it rather than her lying about it. It makes sure every step of the way that she is seen in a good light. As a person that has grown up surrounded by similar people I think its not realistic for a person in that circumstance to be this lucky to avoid any and all consequences of her horrible life decisions. She doesn't get abused, instead she gets promoted to assistant, she stops being smart and is oblivious to his pretty obvious bad intentions to minimize her fault, she conveniently finds out after the first girl she helps lure so the damage she does is as small as possible.

I feel a more immersive/compelling narrative would be if she deep down knew what she was doing, but the need for drugs was more important for her. Could you still look past that and try to help her now?

Since I know you play DIk, if I hated Jill going behind MC's back with the Chad fight, you can imagine how I feel about Risa fooling Guy and putting him in danger here. The guy has black eye already, its clear he can't handle shit, what made her think he is properly equipped to deal with Psycho drug lords? Disregard for his well being? selfish needs of redemption no matter the cost? I am expected to believe that she is now a reformed saint?

This made me wonder if I would see this in a different light if this was a choice event, rather than forced plot.

 

[Joshy92]

Just did a quick speed run to look at lewds I probably missed some but from what I saw it looks like he has only done that to Ashe

I hope he does it more in the future. I would love to have my head between Nicki or Mason's legs having a delicious lunch.

 

[Dessolos]

I meant more like the game downplaying it rather than her lying about it. It makes sure every step of the way that she is seen in a good light. As a person that has grown up surrounded by similar people I think its not realistic for a person in that circumstance to be this lucky to avoid any and all consequences of her horrible life decisions. She doesn't get abused, instead she gets promoted to assistant, she stops being smart and is oblivious to his pretty obvious bad intentions to minimize her fault, she conveniently finds out after the first girl she helps lure so the damage she does is as small as possible.

I feel a more immersive/compelling narrative would be if she deep down knew what she was doing, but the need for drugs was more important for her. Could you still look past that and try to help her now?

Since I know you play DIk, if I hated Jill going behind MC's back with the Chad fight, you can imagine how I feel about Risa fooling Guy and putting him in danger here. The guy has black eye already, its clear he can't handle shit, what made her think he is properly equipped to deal with Psycho drug lords? Disregard for his well being? selfish needs of redemption no matter the cost? I am expected to believe that she is now a reformed saint?

This made me wonder if I would see this in a different light if this was a choice event, rather than forced plot.

yeah I see what you mean when you put it like that if she did it knowing full well what she was doing and didn't care because she just wanted drugs. I'd have to find an excuse to like her if I would still be able to like her at all. I probably still help her if it means putting a stop to Lucien but past that idk hard to say for sure how id feel. I should hate her if she did that but I find there are some LI I find it impossible for me to hate even when they deserve it lol. It's rare for me but there are some out there like that for me. Even tho what you said makes more sense for a character or narrative stand point. I'm glad it's the opposite as I rather a game make me feel / care or like a LI even if it means have to use some level of disbelief.

 

[SlapE]

I hope the Pepper Twin 'Retcon' stays and its not a bait and switch. I hated her being a camwhore, for me it has joined to form the trifecta of overused tropes, cheated MC backstory, Raped LI backstory and now OF/Camwhore LI.

I didn't even know this was a thing, I actually hate that, because it feels like such a fucking cop out.

Oh well, Pepper wasn't even in my top 3 LI's anyway, so it's not like it's that important to me. However I was interested to see Neon's take on a camgirl LI since his writing in general has been really good.

As far as Risa goes, people can try to justify her actions all they want, and the game can try to make me like her as much as the game wants. I will never ever like Risa in a romantic light, and will not even indulge in a sexual relationship with her. If she can redeem herself, I might consider being her friend, but that is the absolute most she could ever be to me.

 

[Spamwise]

If the next 2 updates were only Gabby content, I would not be complaining too terribly much.

 

[SlapE]

If the next 2 updates were only Gabby content, I would not be complaining too terribly much.

meh.

 

[NebulousShooter]

I didn't even know this was a thing, I actually hate that, because it feels like such a fucking cop out.

I might be just misreading the signs, so its not a guarantee thats where the plot is heading. And I am a hypocrite because I agree, it is a cop out, I just happen to hate the OF/Camwhore trope in VNS with a burning passion. The fact that it also features blackmail

I don't like Pepper as a LI that much either, but I liked her as a character enough to wish she doesn't get ruined(imo) by that, especially since it comes as a twist after the player might get invested in her. With controversial topics I like to know what I'm getting into from the start, like the Being a DIK prostitutes LI, you know what they are about before starting farming their routes, you don't find out about it 5 updates later...

 

[Requiem131]

Hm, I checked the walkthrough and there supposedly is a sex scene with Risa in her father's house room. And yet, even though I did what the walkthrough said and even tried the opposite route through the diner to see, it doesn't seem to trigger. Any idea on how to trigger it, or is it due to the error that pops up just where it should be:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/ch9.rpy", line 7722, in script
    if rirejected == True or rirel == 2 :
  File "game/ch9.rpy", line 7722, in <module>
    if rirejected == True or rirel == 2 :
NameError: name 'rirejected' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/ch9.rpy", line 7722, in script
    if rirejected == True or rirel == 2 :
  File "D:\Otros\Gams\FriendsinNeed.0.60c-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 2133, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
  File "D:\Otros\Gams\FriendsinNeed.0.60c-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1153, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "D:\Otros\Gams\FriendsinNeed.0.60c-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1146, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/ch9.rpy", line 7722, in <module>
    if rirejected == True or rirel == 2 :
NameError: name 'rirejected' is not defined

Windows-10-10.0.19041 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.1.23060707
Friends in Need Ch9 v.0.60c 
Wed Jun  5 03:01:57 2024

 

[Dessolos]

Hm, I checked the walkthrough and there supposedly is a sex scene with Risa in her father's house room. And yet, even though I did what the walkthrough said and even tried the opposite route through the diner to see, it doesn't seem to trigger. Any idea on how to trigger it, or is it due to the error that pops up just where it should be:

I didn't look at the walkthrough since I dont use them. Unsure if it's the error you got or what. But this is what i did to get the scene some of these choices might not matter. I went to the model , deluxe room , declined to have sex with her and picked the option that said I didn't want to take advantage of her , looked at her in her room , gave her a compliment and then I had the option.

 

[Requiem131]

Hadn't tried that but same error, when the phone rings. I guess it bugged some way or another, no problem. Thanks!

 

[Joshy92]

I didn't even know this was a thing, I actually hate that, because it feels like such a fucking cop out.

Oh well, Pepper wasn't even in my top 3 LI's anyway, so it's not like it's that important to me. However I was interested to see Neon's take on a camgirl LI since his writing in general has been really good.

As far as Risa goes, people can try to justify her actions all they want, and the game can try to make me like her as much as the game wants. I will never ever like Risa in a romantic light, and will not even indulge in a sexual relationship with her. If she can redeem herself, I might consider being her friend, but that is the absolute most she could ever be to me.

I have to disagree about Risa. She is a really sweet girl who never wanted to hurt anyone she just made some mistakes and is trying to make things right.

She has so much love in her heart that I just can't help but want to make life better for her.

 

[Dessolos]

I have to disagree about Risa. She is a really sweet girl who never wanted to hurt anyone she just made some mistakes and is trying to make things right.

She has so much love in her heart that I just can't help but want to make life better for her.

yeah I think that's way I think her story arc is my favorite right now. She messed up and knows it and it got to the point she tried to kill herself in the past because of how guilty she felt Sure the way she went about getting Guy's help is wrong but it shows to me she is caring and sweet and full of love and not selfish at all. She just needs help. Also I love the render / scene when you tell you don't want to take advantage of her might honestly be my favorite render / scene in the whole game right now.

She feels like she has the potential to beat Nicki as my favorite / #1 right now i'd have to think on that more but I think I like her more than Ashe so she is at least my 2nd favorite now

Spoiler: My favorite render

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[Ernatio D]

Spoiler: girl I thought could have been Cassie

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