Well, aren't we vocal about our love paths? Why can't they be vocal about theirs? I mean I do get tired of seein all of it and on occasion I have voiced my opinions on it, but in the end, they have just as much right as we do to post what they want. Just don't read what they post if it bothers you that much.
This is a very common trap a LOT of writers/authors fall into, to be honest. (Not in any way saying that's what is going on here, since I'm not all the way through the current content, still seems I might have a ways to go.) It's part of why, any time I'm working on a story or story driven game, I get the base outline done immediately, then I go back and do a less-rough but still not fully polished outline, with most major plot points and key decision points mapped out. In fact, I've pissed off a few writers I've developed story-line for because I wouldn't keep changing the story on the fly, based solely on THEIR mood, the placement of the stars in the sky, the weather, etc. I sat down with them at the beginning and hashed out the flow, we knew that flow worked, we weren't going to change it because their cat died or whatever. Granted, none of those we adult visual novels, but seriously, story-telling and writing are still story-telling and writing whether it's an AVN or a family-friendly narrative driven RPG.
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First of all, they have just as much of a right to post here like everyone else does.
Thanks so much!
Yeah, this will be towards the end of Brittani's dark path. By that point, that branch will be so divorced from her other paths, that a change in appearance won't be a huge deal, as the renders would be entirely different anyway.
You'd be correct!
That deleted sequence with Ashe was one that I just cut for time. It would've ultimately led into one of two places, with Guy and Ashe reconciling, or with her making an excuse to leave early, as she already does when he blows the romance path. But, getting it there was just taking more time than I had. As I recall, that was the update I published right before I had to take a series of flights halfway across the world. :'D I'll likely add it back in, when I go back and fill out that chapter.Nice!
Ashe seemed like the obvious choice for a bimbo route to me, did you ever consider her at some point? Because while replaying her date this last update, I noticed you have a choice hidden behind an impossible amount of dark points where you call her a dumb bimbo and send her into the bathroom crying. Very well written dialogue btw, felt real. Did you change your mind on including that because you felt it didn't fit her character? Or because it felt too cliche or something? Or was it just time-related? Kinda fun finding little hidden outtakes like that in the code
Thanks for the kind words! I'll touch on your notes real quick.
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tldr; 85(ish) images into the new update. Aiming to get to the halfway point by the end of the month, and get a demo build out to high-tier subs. Aiming for an August release for Chapter 10.
Thanks so much!
Yeah, this will be towards the end of Brittani's dark path. By that point, that branch will be so divorced from her other paths, that a change in appearance won't be a huge deal, as the renders would be entirely different anyway.
You'd be correct!
That deleted sequence with Ashe was one that I just cut for time. It would've ultimately led into one of two places, with Guy and Ashe reconciling, or with her making an excuse to leave early, as she already does when he blows the romance path. But, getting it there was just taking more time than I had. As I recall, that was the update I published right before I had to take a series of flights halfway across the world. :'D I'll likely add it back in, when I go back and fill out that chapter.
As for why Britt and not Ashe.. Well, from what I understand/find appealing about the whole bimbofication fetish, it's more about removing a person's agency and basically reducing them to a cartoonish, doll-like caricature of themselves. Brittani, with her storyline basically being tied to her aspirations as an actress, dovetails nicely with the whole idea of losing yourself within an fabricated image. Basically, I feel like it meaningfully adds to her story.
Ashe, or a lot of the love interests, could definitely make for a fun bimbo event, I think. I just don't really see it as having story legs. But, Corrupted Ashe indulging in Guy's fantasy to ridicule her as an airhead? Maybe! Her dynamic with kinda-shitty-Guy seems to be one where she enjoys the sexual release, while being rather ambivalent about him as a human being.
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Thanks for the kind words! I'll touch on your notes real quick.
Pepper is meant to be the 'tsundere' character, so she was always going to have a slow build on the love path. You should take little moments like her worriedly checking Guy's bruise as good progress, though.
As for too many girls, too little story progress, etc. I've talked about this before, but I'll hit it again: I honestly don't really see the problem. So far, basically all of the love interests have made their problems known to MC. Nicki's and Mason's are basically resolved, and Ashe and Gabby's are on their way there. Risa's will be a bit more of a slow burn, but I think we can all see where it's going? Brittani and Pepper -- same deal, those plots are kind of a slow sizzle, but the basic shape of them is known, now.
Basically all of the characters have had ero scenes, even if they weren't on a path you played. Carolina and Madison are the two that have had the least progress, but I still think Carolina's gotten a good bit of high-quality face-time.
So, put all that together, and compare it to my competition in this space. I don't like to name other developers, but there are some games that came out years before me, and have had a fraction of the progress, even with significantly less branching and fewer characters. Like, there are some VNs I play where it's years later and I still haven't slept with one of the two or three main love interests. So, why do I get so much flak for slow-walking the story? This isn't addressed to you specifically, by the way. Just asking the general audience.
I honestly feel like the entire AVN community has psychic scars from the pure volume of abandoned games out there. And they've established this common cultural lexicon, which includes things that will 'ruin' games. Too many love interests! Too much branching! NTR!
But, correlation =/= causation. I think that if you play the game from the beginning, you can see a lot of little things that hint towards a lot of thought being put into how the story would unfold. Is it perfect? No. I've added and improvised, but the waypoints I set out towards, are the ones I eventually get to. Comb through my blogs, and look at stuff I'd teased or hinted at. Very little was ever outright discarded. Because there is actually a plan, even if people can't see it.
As for how long I want to be doing this for.. As long as I'm having fun making it, and people are having fun playing it, why does it really matter? There are people who did/are doing webcomics for more than a decade. I just looked up Gunnerkrigg Court (a favorite of mine, back in the day) and it's been going for nineteen years! That's one dude, making that story because he loves it, and the audience is still there for it.
Now, I do not actually want to do FiN for 20 years. I've got other stuff I'd like to pursue. I very much miss drawing comics, and writing prose, and I've got a few big works in me that I'd like to finish before I die. But, I'm relatively young and fit, so barring any accidents or unforseen illness, I've got time. But, can I see myself working on FiN another 4-5 years? Sure, why not?
I enjoy working on this thing, warts and all. So long as I'm having fun, I see no reason to rush the conclusion.
I think I might not have expressed what I mean as good as I hoped.You must be registered to see the links
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tldr; 85(ish) images into the new update. Aiming to get to the halfway point by the end of the month, and get a demo build out to high-tier subs. Aiming for an August release for Chapter 10.
Thanks so much!
Yeah, this will be towards the end of Brittani's dark path. By that point, that branch will be so divorced from her other paths, that a change in appearance won't be a huge deal, as the renders would be entirely different anyway.
You'd be correct!
That deleted sequence with Ashe was one that I just cut for time. It would've ultimately led into one of two places, with Guy and Ashe reconciling, or with her making an excuse to leave early, as she already does when he blows the romance path. But, getting it there was just taking more time than I had. As I recall, that was the update I published right before I had to take a series of flights halfway across the world. :'D I'll likely add it back in, when I go back and fill out that chapter.
As for why Britt and not Ashe.. Well, from what I understand/find appealing about the whole bimbofication fetish, it's more about removing a person's agency and basically reducing them to a cartoonish, doll-like caricature of themselves. Brittani, with her storyline basically being tied to her aspirations as an actress, dovetails nicely with the whole idea of losing yourself within an fabricated image. Basically, I feel like it meaningfully adds to her story.
Ashe, or a lot of the love interests, could definitely make for a fun bimbo event, I think. I just don't really see it as having story legs. But, Corrupted Ashe indulging in Guy's fantasy to ridicule her as an airhead? Maybe! Her dynamic with kinda-shitty-Guy seems to be one where she enjoys the sexual release, while being rather ambivalent about him as a human being.
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Thanks for the kind words! I'll touch on your notes real quick.
Pepper is meant to be the 'tsundere' character, so she was always going to have a slow build on the love path. You should take little moments like her worriedly checking Guy's bruise as good progress, though.
As for too many girls, too little story progress, etc. I've talked about this before, but I'll hit it again: I honestly don't really see the problem. So far, basically all of the love interests have made their problems known to MC. Nicki's and Mason's are basically resolved, and Ashe and Gabby's are on their way there. Risa's will be a bit more of a slow burn, but I think we can all see where it's going? Brittani and Pepper -- same deal, those plots are kind of a slow sizzle, but the basic shape of them is known, now.
Basically all of the characters have had ero scenes, even if they weren't on a path you played. Carolina and Madison are the two that have had the least progress, but I still think Carolina's gotten a good bit of high-quality face-time.
So, put all that together, and compare it to my competition in this space. I don't like to name other developers, but there are some games that came out years before me, and have had a fraction of the progress, even with significantly less branching and fewer characters. Like, there are some VNs I play where it's years later and I still haven't slept with one of the two or three main love interests. So, why do I get so much flak for slow-walking the story? This isn't addressed to you specifically, by the way. Just asking the general audience.
I honestly feel like the entire AVN community has psychic scars from the pure volume of abandoned games out there. And they've established this common cultural lexicon, which includes things that will 'ruin' games. Too many love interests! Too much branching! NTR!
But, correlation =/= causation. I think that if you play the game from the beginning, you can see a lot of little things that hint towards a lot of thought being put into how the story would unfold. Is it perfect? No. I've added and improvised, but the waypoints I set out towards, are the ones I eventually get to. Comb through my blogs, and look at stuff I'd teased or hinted at. Very little was ever outright discarded. Because there is actually a plan, even if people can't see it.
As for how long I want to be doing this for.. As long as I'm having fun making it, and people are having fun playing it, why does it really matter? There are people who did/are doing webcomics for more than a decade. I just looked up Gunnerkrigg Court (a favorite of mine, back in the day) and it's been going for nineteen years! That's one dude, making that story because he loves it, and the audience is still there for it.
Now, I do not actually want to do FiN for 20 years. I've got other stuff I'd like to pursue. I very much miss drawing comics, and writing prose, and I've got a few big works in me that I'd like to finish before I die. But, I'm relatively young and fit, so barring any accidents or unforseen illness, I've got time. But, can I see myself working on FiN another 4-5 years? Sure, why not?
I enjoy working on this thing, warts and all. So long as I'm having fun, I see no reason to rush the conclusion.
My friend I see one Mason problem unresolved. His ring finger is ringless atm. But don't worry I'm working on it.You must be registered to see the links
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tldr; 85(ish) images into the new update. Aiming to get to the halfway point by the end of the month, and get a demo build out to high-tier subs. Aiming for an August release for Chapter 10.
Thanks so much!
Yeah, this will be towards the end of Brittani's dark path. By that point, that branch will be so divorced from her other paths, that a change in appearance won't be a huge deal, as the renders would be entirely different anyway.
You'd be correct!
That deleted sequence with Ashe was one that I just cut for time. It would've ultimately led into one of two places, with Guy and Ashe reconciling, or with her making an excuse to leave early, as she already does when he blows the romance path. But, getting it there was just taking more time than I had. As I recall, that was the update I published right before I had to take a series of flights halfway across the world. :'D I'll likely add it back in, when I go back and fill out that chapter.
As for why Britt and not Ashe.. Well, from what I understand/find appealing about the whole bimbofication fetish, it's more about removing a person's agency and basically reducing them to a cartoonish, doll-like caricature of themselves. Brittani, with her storyline basically being tied to her aspirations as an actress, dovetails nicely with the whole idea of losing yourself within an fabricated image. Basically, I feel like it meaningfully adds to her story.
Ashe, or a lot of the love interests, could definitely make for a fun bimbo event, I think. I just don't really see it as having story legs. But, Corrupted Ashe indulging in Guy's fantasy to ridicule her as an airhead? Maybe! Her dynamic with kinda-shitty-Guy seems to be one where she enjoys the sexual release, while being rather ambivalent about him as a human being.
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Thanks for the kind words! I'll touch on your notes real quick.
Pepper is meant to be the 'tsundere' character, so she was always going to have a slow build on the love path. You should take little moments like her worriedly checking Guy's bruise as good progress, though.
As for too many girls, too little story progress, etc. I've talked about this before, but I'll hit it again: I honestly don't really see the problem. So far, basically all of the love interests have made their problems known to MC. Nicki's and Mason's are basically resolved, and Ashe and Gabby's are on their way there. Risa's will be a bit more of a slow burn, but I think we can all see where it's going? Brittani and Pepper -- same deal, those plots are kind of a slow sizzle, but the basic shape of them is known, now.
Basically all of the characters have had ero scenes, even if they weren't on a path you played. Carolina and Madison are the two that have had the least progress, but I still think Carolina's gotten a good bit of high-quality face-time.
So, put all that together, and compare it to my competition in this space. I don't like to name other developers, but there are some games that came out years before me, and have had a fraction of the progress, even with significantly less branching and fewer characters. Like, there are some VNs I play where it's years later and I still haven't slept with one of the two or three main love interests. So, why do I get so much flak for slow-walking the story? This isn't addressed to you specifically, by the way. Just asking the general audience.
I honestly feel like the entire AVN community has psychic scars from the pure volume of abandoned games out there. And they've established this common cultural lexicon, which includes things that will 'ruin' games. Too many love interests! Too much branching! NTR!
But, correlation =/= causation. I think that if you play the game from the beginning, you can see a lot of little things that hint towards a lot of thought being put into how the story would unfold. Is it perfect? No. I've added and improvised, but the waypoints I set out towards, are the ones I eventually get to. Comb through my blogs, and look at stuff I'd teased or hinted at. Very little was ever outright discarded. Because there is actually a plan, even if people can't see it.
As for how long I want to be doing this for.. As long as I'm having fun making it, and people are having fun playing it, why does it really matter? There are people who did/are doing webcomics for more than a decade. I just looked up Gunnerkrigg Court (a favorite of mine, back in the day) and it's been going for nineteen years! That's one dude, making that story because he loves it, and the audience is still there for it.
Now, I do not actually want to do FiN for 20 years. I've got other stuff I'd like to pursue. I very much miss drawing comics, and writing prose, and I've got a few big works in me that I'd like to finish before I die. But, I'm relatively young and fit, so barring any accidents or unforseen illness, I've got time. But, can I see myself working on FiN another 4-5 years? Sure, why not?
I enjoy working on this thing, warts and all. So long as I'm having fun, I see no reason to rush the conclusion.
Just play and see yourselves.
Welcome to the club! Lol. My advice is just don't say anymore on how you feel about Nicki, That war ever smolders lol. The white knights and fanboys will shout you down too.
I mean you clearly went with the dark path option if she claims the MC raped her which it totally is with that path. I do agree her writing makes no sense if you go with the dark path. I personally find it's better on a non dark path option. If it's better that's on you. But yeah she is getting a full rework after the next update, I personally cant wait for it since you are going to be able to give her money without sex.
Not the next update, but the one after it, chp 1 will get remade; so maybe around October/November? You will have option to offer her help without sex. Some other things will also get limited/resolved as well, so for example her coming back after dark path doesn't make a whole whole lot of sense, so he said he's going to tone the chp 1 stuff down.
