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Lightaces

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I'm sorry but this is one of the most fucked up things I've heard on this thread. How do you live with yourself?
Because I have a very solid understanding of the differences between real life and fantasy/game life. My interest in occasionally exploring the darker side of sexual fantasies has nothing to do with my real life behavior. While I do enjoy playing out a good CNC scene, that only ever comes after trust has been built, a really serious conversation about boundries has been held, each of us has filled out and understood each other's yes/no/maybe lists, discussion of each partner's needs for aftercare, and ALWAYS with the use of either a really good safe word and/or the stop light system (green = yes, please keep going; yellow = keep going, but pull back on the boundry pushing "maybe" activities, or pause to discuss the problem with the intent of restarting; red = immediately end the scene, and proceed to immediate aftercare). I seldom have to worry about alternative signalling such as dropping a ball or some other noisy thing, as I hate gags - I want my play thing begging me for something - either to stop, or begging me not to stop - so their mouths are generally available to safeword.

In the context of the story, Isabella is a fucking bitch who is perfectly happy to pimp her own daughter. While in real life, I would never use sex as a punishment*, in the CONTEXT OF A SEXUAL FANTASY GAME, a bitch like that gets what she earns. And I don't care if she stops being such a bitch, I'm just hate fucking her, or (in the game context), it is a straight up r. She doesn't get to cum. Why am I so comfortable with this behavior? Because SHE'S NOT A PERSON. She's a bunch of pixels on a screen. I'm not going to hurt her feelings, because she has none. I'm not going to add to her trauma, because she doesn't actually exist.

Though now that I think about it, getting her to cum while r'ing her does have a certain appeal. Many (not all, and most certainly not even most, but many) women report having orgasms durring sexual assaults. It fucks them up in the head. Did they actually want it? Then why did they cum? In reality, of course, her orgasm has nothing to do with consent, and no means no and all that. But, in the context of the game, playing with Isabella's psycology like that would be awesome. "I though you didn't want this? Then why are you so wet? WOAH! Did you just cum, you dirty bitch?"

All you vanilla people are so wierd. You lie your way into relationships with people you don't actually know, have boring sex because you can't talk about what you REALLY want, and then end up cheating on each other because the only way you know to get any excitement is to go behind the back of a person you claim to care about. Give me a straight forward, honest kinky relationship anyday.


*At least, not outside of an appropriately established sub/dom or brat/tamer relationship, where it is really more of a funishment than anything; not like making a brat kneel on rice, write lines, or take 20 whacks with her hair brush. Of course, Princess enjoys the hell out of punishments, when daddy decides she need correcting. But these are the challenges when taming a brat.
 

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Because I have a very solid understanding of the differences between real life and fantasy/game life. My interest in occasionally exploring the darker side of sexual fantasies has nothing to do with my real life behavior. While I do enjoy playing out a good CNC scene, that only ever comes after trust has been built, a really serious conversation about boundries has been held, each of us has filled out and understood each other's yes/no/maybe lists, discussion of each partner's needs for aftercare, and ALWAYS with the use of either a really good safe word and/or the stop light system (green = yes, please keep going; yellow = keep going, but pull back on the boundry pushing "maybe" activities, or pause to discuss the problem with the intent of restarting; red = immediately end the scene, and proceed to immediate aftercare). I seldom have to worry about alternative signalling such as dropping a ball or some other noisy thing, as I hate gags - I want my play thing begging me for something - either to stop, or begging me not to stop - so their mouths are generally available to safeword.

In the context of the story, Isabella is a fucking bitch who is perfectly happy to pimp her own daughter. While in real life, I would never use sex as a punishment*, in the CONTEXT OF A SEXUAL FANTASY GAME, a bitch like that gets what she earns. And I don't care if she stops being such a bitch, I'm just hate fucking her, or (in the game context), it is a straight up r. She doesn't get to cum. Why am I so comfortable with this behavior? Because SHE'S NOT A PERSON. She's a bunch of pixels on a screen. I'm not going to hurt her feelings, because she has none. I'm not going to add to her trauma, because she doesn't actually exist.

Though now that I think about it, getting her to cum while r'ing her does have a certain appeal. Many (not all, and most certainly not even most, but many) women report having orgasms durring sexual assaults. It fucks them up in the head. Did they actually want it? Then why did they cum? In reality, of course, her orgasm has nothing to do with consent, and no means no and all that. But, in the context of the game, playing with Isabella's psycology like that would be awesome. "I though you didn't want this? Then why are you so wet? WOAH! Did you just cum, you dirty bitch?"

All you vanilla people are so wierd. You lie your way into relationships with people you don't actually know, have boring sex because you can't talk about what you REALLY want, and then end up cheating on each other because the only way you know to get any excitement is to go behind the back of a person you claim to care about. Give me a straight forward, honest kinky relationship anyday.


*At least, not outside of an appropriately established sub/dom or brat/tamer relationship, where it is really more of a funishment than anything; not like making a brat kneel on rice, write lines, or take 20 whacks with her hair brush. Of course, Princess enjoys the hell out of punishments, when daddy decides she need correcting. But these are the challenges when taming a brat.
Do I need to add /s to my post? I really thought it was obvious considering some of the messed up stuff said here.
 

Lightaces

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Controversial take here, but overstimulation is way better than orgasm denial.
Depends on the context. I'd save that for a brat I actually liked, and who only needed correction. And the real answer is to mix and match the two for extra effect.

But I'm starting to think that, on the darkest path, forcing Isabella to cum, perhaps many, many times in a row, while r'ing her, might have the better phsycological effect on the bitch. In real life, it messes with the heads of SA and R victims, and while I'd never wish that on a real person, in the context of a game like this....it has potential.
 

GokutheG

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Depends on the context. I'd save that for a brat I actually liked, and who only needed correction. And the real answer is to mix and match the two for extra effect.

But I'm starting to think that, on the darkest path, forcing Isabella to cum, perhaps many, many times in a row, while r'ing her, might have the better phsycological effect on the bitch. In real life, it messes with the heads of SA and R victims, and while I'd never wish that on a real person, in the context of a game like this....it has potential.
Being forced to cum when you absolutely do not want to would be doubly affective towards the victim. The mix of shame and doubt while you battle with the thoughts of did you actually enjoy your own abuse is...something.
 
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Dessolos

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yeah my version of the dark path for Isabella is throwing her out on the street naked where she belongs. I refuse to put my dick inside of that bitch on any path. She can die for all I care , after I learned what she did to her daughter. I will only tolerate her on playing Britt's path because she is still her mother at the end of the day. But on any other paths she can get the fuck out or whatever else she has coming to her , tho I wont do any dark path choices if it means having sex with her. But if there is dark path options that are actually dark beyond sex you can bet your ass im doing it lol.
 

Lightaces

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Being forced to cum when you absolutely do not want to would be doubly affective towards the victim. The mix of shame and doubt while you battle with the thoughts of did you actually enjoy your own abuse is...something.
Yeah. As a dark path option, it is....quite the notion. It legitimately sends women into some really unhealthy behavior, sometimes, if they can't get the help they need from a good therapist. Which might be a good thing for Isabella to experience.
 

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It's a game well worth playing - one of the best in the AVN genre - but if you don't want the shit to be aerosolized, don't fuck both Jade and Sage in the same play-through. We haven't seen the results yet, but it is going to be wild!!!
If memory serves, it's a sandbox non-harem game, which is why I passed on it.
 

Lightaces

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If memory serves, it's a sandbox non-harem game, which is why I passed on it.
Definately not a sandbox, but yeah, non-harem when it comes to the main LI. There are plenty of side girls, though, and they are all fine with you fucking around all you want. And the writing is as good as an AVN gets.
 

Ramen-

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What happend to the option to rape the redhead in the crack den? I see that option in my save menu but when I load the game it's gone.
 

Dessolos

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What happend to the option to rape the redhead in the crack den? I see that option in my save menu but when I load the game it's gone.
not 100% as id have to check and im to tired to do that myself. But if you make enough light path choices I think it might not be available perhaps or might depend on your choices in the den when talking to Lucen. As I recall when the update first came out I saw it one playthrough and didnt on another. 1 was a light path other was a dark path speed run as I was curious to see if there was a Risa dark path. I only saw it on the dark path speed run
 
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Elduriel

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depending how depraved (or not) your MC is you may not even get the option, same as you won't get the option to lie to Risa that you'll help
 
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