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Dessolos

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No animation's in 2k24??? Realy??? 0_0
not every game needs animation the year makes no difference. If you need animations to fap there is pornhub. Besides animations make up the smallest % of the overall game in other AVN's it makes no difference if there are animations or not. It's the context and hot stills that can make a situation hot and fappable. Hell most stills are hotter than animations imo.
 

soldano

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Reading some of the complaints about the size of the cast, I think they just aren't accustomed to this dev's vision compared to others. The LCD of this site is basically a VN with no actual, actual story, only really mediocre erotic content thrown together hentai-magic-dick-style to fill your time; and because of that, the character writing is usually unbearably shallow, probably even quite boring for the author to write, so much so that they have to print out new LIs constantly because that's the only real hook their 'story' has, or it's the only one they know how to use, or maybe want to use because it's the easiest path by far as opposed to the author dying from boredom and frustration trying to give underwritten characters something to do besides fuck. :LOL: Either that, or head into heavy trope territory without any interesting twist on it, but either way, it's not fun to play usually and probably not very fun to develop, and they're pretty forgettable. That's actually probably why a lot of those get abandoned, other than RL issues or the dev just not having the work ethic necessary for VN development.

This game's the complete opposite of that, I mean it's apples to oranges. It's bold compared to a typical VN because it has a heavy focus on story and character writing, a decent-sized cast (pre-planned, btw), each with multiple routes, and all of this without sacrificing writing quality. It's intentionally very complex, of course it's going to take much longer than those other VNs to get through story and character content. Forgetting who's who, what's going on, feeling like you haven't seen a LI for too long, well that's a side effect of the scale of this game and the reality of the input of time relative to the output of quality. When the game is finished, those issues, some of which I consider illusory tbh, will disappear. If you consider this kind of a VN a failure from the start, then there are tons of other games on this website for you in the meantime.

Because despite all the 'problems' with the dev's vision people keep complaining about, the game continues to chug along relatively smoothly with well-paced and properly fleshed out stories and characters that are actually fun and interesting to discuss. No major setbacks thus far to panic over. There are delays.. but delays are literally the rule, not the exception, for any worthwhile endeavor. Just sit back and relax and watch and wait, let the dev cook. If the game crashes and burns like all the rest, then fine you get to watch us all eat crow or w/e. But in the meantime, I don't get why people can't just appreciate something unique and different on this site for what it is and hopefully watch it pass the finish line, instead of bombing it with negative predictions.

I understand what you're saying, and I agree that FiN is much higher quality than the average game on this site. For me it's the best one I've played, but that's easily debatable (especially since I've played far from all of them).

Now, in my opinion the problem is just that. If you want to write a good choral story, you have to weave a lot of plots together. That's complex, and it's very easy to get loose ends that unravel the whole thing. To avoid that, you have to be very careful. And that burns, and it takes time and planning. This is being developed by one person, not a team. And obviously development is becoming more and more complex. I'm not saying that will happen, but my fear is that the developer will end up burned out. This is a hobby, not a job, and it's easy to quit if you get to the point where the knots are too complex. Quit, or just ignore the loose ends or look for shortcuts.

If NeonGhosts manages to pull this off and see the story through to the end, great. Thumbs up. But we have to be aware that a great story doesn't need to be choral. Bergman's Persona is an excellent story told with just 4 or 5 characters. And we also have to be aware that the development of this game is going to be more complex, and exponentially so. What costs you 5 today, will cost you 25 tomorrow. And the day after, 625. The developer has already announced that it will make shorter chapters, which is a good idea. But I'll bet you anything that those shorter chapters will take the same time as this one sooner rather than later.

This isn't being a doomsayer, it's just saying my honest opinion. Which isn't very important now. The number of characters is already there, and it can hardly be reduced without it being a botched job. So the only thing left is to continue enjoying this great story while it lasts. Hopefully until the end.
 
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thehospital

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Goddamn I'm just impressed at how *funny* this episode was. the "on a horse" line, wearing the "lewd" shirt to the police station, the "raging hard-on in the worst possible place to get one." They actually made me laugh out loud. Extra impressive because I think it's really hard to be funny over text.

Anyway, yeah this chapter's a real tour de force for a game that's already super impressive.
 

soldano

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One thing I really liked about this episode is that it starts with a random conversation that seems unrelated to anything, and closes the episode by connecting it to the main plot. I would have liked the episode to have really ended there. That would have been circular and perfect.
 
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Truly gorgeous,
the love that radiates from her here,
how she touches you lovingly,while her eyes look at you as if you are her greatest treasure and love on earth,
while she almost want to say the biggest words,but still changes her mind,for the time being.. :sneaky::sneaky:
one of the most beautiful scenes from her !!
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I told you she's the only one that Rivals Nikki when it comes to giving us the family we want the fastest

I mean Nikki's my second favorite and I know she had her reasons and I understand that

but at the end of the day we never had to beg Ashe to be are girlfriend

and I actually look forward to ashe actually moveing into our apartment
 
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NeonGhosts finally got some time yesterday to play the update. Everything was really good. I'm glad this game is the kinda thing you get lost in developing and time flies for you. It's clearly not just a capitalistic exercise for you. I can't wait to see what comes next and how the beginning glows up with the refresh. Good luck sir!
 
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nejfan

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This game was surprisingly really good. I initially went for as dark of a route as possible but quickly regretted it because ngl, it felt too brutal and none of the girls actually deserved it. Instead I went for a more middle of the road type of playthrough.

One thing though, I have no clue if my playthrough would be good for a possible harem ending because the dev has said the romance route won't get that, corruption/dark apparently will?

I might have picked too many nice options with certain girls for that to be possible, I don't know if I've locked myself out of a possible harem ending because of it.
 
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Mason's a survivor, he'll do whatever it takes to keep a roof over his head if he has to be a female to please guy, so be it
That's what I thought in the first scene. But the second and third (where she lets you straight up fuck her) scenes she is clearly into a male pleasing her female body. The only time you are given an indication that she isn't enjoying what is happening is if you call her a girl instead of a boy. It just feels very weird that she wants to be seen as a boy but also ENJOYS and ENCOURAGES the MC playing with her pussy.
 

NeonGhosts

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Now I remember what I wantted to ask Neon, how many chapters are we away from Tessa's insertion into the game
It'll be a bit. I plan for Isabella and Tessa to be a little more in-focus in Season 2, as Evil Guy continues to grow more unhinged, or Good Guy becomes more steadfast in his opposition to the malign forces around him. But here, have some old Tessa renders.

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When I try to set a date with Carolina , I get an error were vihumiliation is not defined
Any tips?
That is super weird. That variable's been in the script since Chapter 3, including the control variable. There was an early version of Chapter 3 that was published without the full Viola scene, which means that control variable wouldn't have been in there. Might be a lingering effect of an old, old save? I'll add a default version of the variable to today's Beta release, since it won't hurt anything. Until then, you can either add the variable yourself to the script with "$ vihumiliation = 0" added to the list at the beginning of Chapter 10, or start back at the end of Chapter 2 (when Nicki returns) and Ctrl+Skip your way to the present.

But, the vihumiliation error should have triggered during Viola's car ride home with Ashe, too. So, if you didn't get that error while playing the Ashe date chapter, you probably have some save files that have all the necessary variables.

NeonGhosts
What are the effects of "dark" points of mc ??
They basically affect MC's mentality, and the options he has available to him. An MC with a higher dark rating is generally more cynical, misogynistic, and cruel. Even if you're on a character's good path, an MC with a high dark score may frame certain situations more negatively than one who's generally more of an optimist.
 

Joshy92

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I'm a bit confused I just met Tessa, but she already had a photoshoot before? did I miss something?
 

Machete

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Or wait for the rework of the the first chapeter which will force you to redo your saves....which he still keeps putting off for some reason.
Probably the best option. Can't wait to play the 'polished' story version. This game captured my attention allover again.
 
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