I'd like to rock down her electric avenue
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Some of them don't really seem to have "choice" - they just want the tag / don't want to say kinetic novel. I've played a few were it looks like a meaningful choice, but the game really just ignores the choice you made and proceeds as if you'd made the other one. Or even minor ones where a Li is like ... do you like this dress? And you can say yes or no but if you say no the dialogue goes "Normally I don't like things like that, it looks great on you though." So really the choice was between yes and a less enthusiastic yes. But yeah, the ones that bug me the most are the ones where the writing makes you feel the opposite of the way the story says the MC feels. Where, for example, getting angry isn't an option when the story hasn't given you any reason to feel anything else. But yeah, FiN so far has none of that. There are plenty of real choices, with real consequences. There have been a few times when I wish it could have been slightly different, or wish I'd been able to take things further - Like immediately moving Viola and her mom into a better place (for example) but that's really just nitpicking. FiN is doing it right.Yeah, there's definitely a lot of forced drama and cliches in VNs usually. I get writing is really, really, really hard. But damn, sometimes it feels like the author isn't even trying. This game spoils its players with choice, but I'm plenty satisfied when they have even a 1/4 of the choices this game has as long as the writing is compelling. But it's usually not
Yeah, I've seen that too, and it's really dumb and annoying.
It's funny because I've seen people who complain this game doesn't give enough choice, but what they basically want is a life simulator that wouldn't serve the story or the author's sanity for that matter, as if this game isn't already challenging to execute. So, people can go too far in that respect as well.
I think if people try to look at this VN as a developing story that has drama and a vulnerable protagonist that is not necessarily a reflection of the player's thoughts and desires at all times, but his own character, things make more sense. The drug den, for example, is moving the story along and introducing an antagonist that was planned from the start, it's not a middle finger to the player like some interpreted it. The Viola situation, if you look at it from the perspective of "how would x action move her and the MC's story along, and would it be satisfying?" I'm sure we'll see her situation greatly improved eventually, but moving it along instantly, while a nice fantasy, would cancel out a lot of interesting developments (and creepy ones too, for certain other routes..) along that arc.
I think people are just used to typical VNs where the story clearly serves the erotic fantasies, which is why they usually end up clunky, inconsistent, and just not compelling. This game is the opposite of that where the fantasies serve the story and its characters, which is honestly the main reason why the scenes are infinitely more satisfying.
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I think it's just a sign of how into the game people are. Everyone has their favorites and things they would like to see but they either don't know, or don't stop to think about how much work goes into every scene. And games that have too much choice or too many paths generally end up abandoned or just in development forever - years and years of updates with no end in sight. Most developers, at least the good ones, want to finish projects so they can move on to the next one - not just keep adding scenes forever. If I had the millions I'd start a studio with a team of artists, professional writers, and coders and crank out 3-4 finished games / year - no updates, just the whole thing released as a finished product. Sadly, unlike our protagonist, I do not have those millions.
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Love her or hate her, Nikki is who she is...
She is awfully, awesomely herself.
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She is awfully, awesomely herself.
- Jul 25, 2017
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lol I love how she is sweet , kind and caring them bam she can act a little ghetto wanting to fight a bitch in the blink of an eye. Honestly the Nicki stuff was the best part of the update for me.
I still hoping for a Risa and Nicki path for the hell of it cause I think be fun as hell but solo paths are my main saves
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Nicki is the best. The others are all lovely in their own ways but Nicki is the only one I'd want watching my back.
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I think once you get Pepper to trust you enough she probably will throw down a fight a bitch too just like Nicki but she is middle of the pack for me
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I don't dislike any of them and I think all of them have potential. I think Viola too could be dangerous if provoked, but I feel like Nicki has some natural 'fight a bitch' in her and is absolutely loyal to MC (above anyone else) - with or without the money.
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While I agree Nicki is the most Loyal. I honestly believe Risa , Ashe , maybe Pepper would also be extremely loyal without the money if he got to know them beforehand , the money just helped move things along and help with their issues. the others are loyal to a degree as well but I think those 3 are the most loyal out of the bunch besides Nicki
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I think Ashe really likes him at this point, and Mason but most of the others would wander off if the money was gone - not that they're really "using him" but most of them are in pretty precarious situations and would just have to get on with their lives. I don't think Nicki would waver at all, even if he was suddenly broke and had to go work at the Circle K again. He kinda is her life now.
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I think all of them will be loyal, and some are further along than others - I just think that several of them would be occupied with trying to find other ways to solve their problems. They wouldn't hate him (depending on how people behaved in the game) but Pepper is in a bad situation, Viola is barely keeping her head above water, Risa has a syndicate to bring down and a convenience store clerk isn't going to be much help, Gabbi's whole family is falling apart, etc. Mason would still be Mason if they had to move into a trailer and let him sleep on the couch.
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I mean Risa is interested in everything but money, it was never the reason she decided to get close with MC in the 1st place. She needed his help with Lucien.
Risa is from a rich family, yes, her father keeps her on a short leash, but I don't think she needs more than she has, take a look for example at her room, it's a fucking spartan style room - only stuff that is really necessary.
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Honestly I think she is almost as loyal as Nicki but yeah I agree with this. Honestly I think the MC cares for money more than Risa does if im being honest haha. All she wants is help , someone that will actually love her and freedom. I think if she had just enough money to get by she be fine with it. She doesn't seem like she tries to live a rich lifestyle that is all her father.
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Yeah, I also think Risa is loyal, I was just saying about the reason why she got close with MC in the 1st place - she desperately needed his help, she tried almost everything to handle "Lucien situation"and failed even while being from a rich family, so, it looks like MC probably was her last hope.
Honestly it felt like she is even ashamed that she is from this family)), but that's just me.
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Yeah I think she is embarrassed for people to find out especially when she is actually richer than the MC lmfao. Feels like something she tries to keep a secret and only mentions when she has to.
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None of these girls or Mason care about Guy's money imo.
They aren't as shallow as that.
They aren't as shallow as that.
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what about Isabella. I'm on the fence if she would. She comes across like she does but then I feel she has a tragic past where she might not to a certain degree if she meets someone that can actually help and love her for who she is as a person.
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Especially Isabella))) she is a definition of altruism)
Interesting thought actually
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I forgot about her, but I was mostly meaning out of the main cast. Isabella might be after money, but I think what she really wants is a loving boyfriend.
Either way I anticipate a big battle against her in the future because of our clashing personalities.
Edit I just found a program that lets me put images in that copy a famous Simpsons episode, so I did one for Mason be warned it contains spoilers.
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