- Aug 31, 2018
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That's the thing about people -- if you "break them out of their cage" they're going to be pretty reluctant to be kept in there just because you want them for yourself. They have learned about how much fun they could have, and they want to have it.
- Mar 25, 2021
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Corruption is a stupid thing in these games anyway.
I roll my eyes whenever I see that word.
I roll my eyes whenever I see that word.
- May 20, 2017
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And also the opposite, most of them think you have to be a jerk and make her a mindless cumdump to have some MMF fun with her.
Just like the guy can be shared between the girls with no dark implications, the girl could be shared in vanilla routes as well.
The only problem in this specific game is that I don't know if there's any other guy to share with... Hahaha
Not really - they learn they can safely explore these things with you, that doesn't mean that they want to explore these things with everyone or that they are comfortable with everyone knowing about their kinks. What you are talking about only works in porn logic.
It doesn't need to be "everyone", just people who they find interesting/attractive enough. It's hardly porn logic, unless you're going to delude yourself that people never grow bored of sex with the same partner and want to try something different. And when that "something different" happens to be "sex with someone other than my usual partner", well.
Put it differently, if you teach a person to overcome their inhibitions and norms and that it is a pleasurable, exciting experience, this is what they'll keep doing. This can very well include inhibitions and norms you wouldn't want them to overcome, but at this point it is their call to make.
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Maybe, but doesn't match with my experiences or the real world people I've known. I've only seen what you're talking about in BDSM novels and in porn. Yes there are "swingers" and open relationships but those seem to be way more common in fiction than in reality. I certainly wouldn't say that if someone is "corrupted" and becomes a sub/pet to their partner that they automatically want to do things with other people - far from it. There is a deep level of trust involved that exceeds what exists in most marriages.
I mean, it's not like you'd know how many of people you pass on the street are in open relationship or suchlike. It's not like they have it tattooed on their heads, or anything. Same goes for people who had sex with someone other than their partner without that partner's knowledge, because they wanted to experience something new/different. Even the people you know, how many do you think are just going to tell you they've cheated on their partner, if they did? Or that they've experimented with sharing and whatnot in some way.
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Sure there are people who cheat, that's pretty common. That isn't really what we're talking about though, we're talking about a character turning someone into a pet/sub and then sharing them with every other dude in the game - which is where those stories always seem to go - or try to. Beyond that ... I've known a lot of people who are into a lot of things. I've had a lot of experiences and had serious discussions with a lot of people but I also worked for a few years with a woman who was a public advocate for and organizer of sex workers, so I learned a lot there as well and had a lot of uncensored conversations with a lot of people.
That's not exactly what i've been talking about. I was responding to this complaint:
Specifically, to the part of it how the MC doesn't get to dictate the other person how they behave but might end up getting cheated on or "has to share", in the sense it's not voluntary act on the MC's part. My point was that such outcome isn't very surprising, given normal human behavior. If anything, it's the desire to have a partner that one gets to keep as some sort of mindless sex "pet", that's more to do with "porn logic" where such blind obedience is more of a thing.
When it comes to "voluntary sharing" i don't have a dog in this race; it's not really my thing and i have no opinion on it either way. If there's indeed lack of games where such sharing isn't just optional then sure, it'd be nice for it to be an actual option, i guess.
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more so, they make the MC ok with it and give the player no agency on that part, outside of 'you didn't pick the romance route, so obviously you are ok with passing your girl around'
.I specifically named that game as an example because every single corruption route has it, it ranges from exhibition in front of other man masturbating, groping the girl, all the way to sex acts and MMF. And since its a sandbox, aka disguised kinetic novel, the only way to advance the plot is to run all scenarios in a girl route, you are pretty much set on that save, you go romance, or you share, hence my frustration.
The guys you are responding already worded it better than I could what I was looking for and why I am baffled how no dev seems to try that power fantasy, where you explore each others kinky side, but stay loyal.
Feels like 99% of the games do it like that, or at least every single one I've tried the so called corruption route, doesn't matter if its Male MC, Female MC game(don't even get me started on how one note on rape/sexual harassment/blackmail those are.)
OT, Risa bad!
Hmm i think Long Story Short kind of has this middle ground, at least for the time being -- in relationship with Ann you choose if you want to keep things vanilla or encourage wider range of sexual things, but all sharing is very much optional and you also get a content switch to enable/disable LIs independent decisions.
You also get it in Our Red String with Ian/Holly route -- Ian gets Holly to (slowly) open up, but they remain exclusive. Even if you choose to shake things up with Lena's interference, you get to decide as Ian if you want to turn things into a poly relationship or not.
Granted, in both cases at this point it's unknown if things stay this way.
In my experience those kind of relationships don't tend to extend beyond the bedroom. Most serious subs that I've met are people who have serious responsibilities in their day job - doctors, lawyers, executives etc who are ready for someone else to be in charge. Or they are people who had very strict, usually religious, upbringings and are ready to try kinky things but need it to be someone else's idea - so they have "no choice" (but they do). In either case, that relationship doesn't extend beyond the bedroom and they would certainly never share that part of themselves with strangers, co-workers or anywhere public where they might see someone they know.
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Almost 30 years in the 'scene'...
Most of your posts have been pretty good...but to quote your 'most serious subs'...most are actually submissive to their dominant the minute they walk through the door (what's often referred to as 24/7, usually wrongly also), not just sexually in the bedroom, given that in D/s, it is 90% pyschological and not physical, if we are actually talking about 'serious and true' subs.
A bit of kinky sex and letting your partner take over, a dominant nor a submissive does make. I will agree however that a majority are in high positions and high demanding/stressful jobs.
I haven't met many of those - who are submissive to their partner 24-7 - unless there is some form of abuse going on. If someone is submissive out of genuine fear, that to me is something different - that person is a victim, not a sub. I've known of a few cases where a young woman or man is with someone older, who basically takes over the roll of a "parent" - that too is a little different. It is still a variation of the D/s relationship but again is particular to the couple and not something that the sub is likely to share widely, accepting a submissive role with others beyond their "daddy" or "mother" figure. In any case a sub who is willingly "shared" is an entirely different level than mere "sub" and requires an entirely different conversation and the only sub I've met who is willing to be sexually submissive with basically anyone at any time was a prostitute who gets paid quite a lot to play that role.
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At any rate, I think we've hit Off Topic. Neon may play with bits of those things but this isn't that kind of game, at least I don't think so. I can't see MC taking one of the ladies out to a club on a leash and who exactly might he "share" one of them with. I can see a few MFF scenarios but for MMF ... who? Jamie? Lucien? Brent? I can't see any of that happening. I certainly can't see it being automatic (non-optional).
Well none of that's my fault
I don't support forced sharing in games, I hate that as much as the rest of you. This game however is clearly all about choices, so if it were to be a thing, it'd definitely be optional. But no one has to sweat or anything, because it isn't going to happen, it's just a scenario from a fan. It sounds like there will be a sharing route with Brit and that'll be the extent of it in this game. Which is good enough for me.
Although, tbh, the little scenario I came up with isn't really about the sharing aspect at all, that's just a minor detail; it's more so malicious incest corruption of two characters that would find the event absolutely mortifying. That would be a ton of fun to read for me, and maybe even a ton of fun to write, trying to figure out how Ashe & Cole would each react and how they would mull it over in their heads over time.
Little side note btw, tbh I wasn't even into sharing, like at all, until Desert Stalker. And that game had it available as a choice, which is key. So, I really appreciate when games offer stuff like that as a separate route, because sometimes you get curious, go for it, and it ends up opening your horizons a little and you discover something you're into that you had no idea you'd be into. That's always fun. I also never thought I'd be into incest roleplay in a game until that Ashe scene. Why do an incest roleplay scene when you can just have an incest scene? Seemed so stupid. But then Neon showed me the way, and now I know
- Jul 24, 2018
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so anyone can tell me difference between vanilla and other version? (Yes i read dev's vanilla version is the patreon version thing)
What is the difference? Ok, dev said vanilla has less content (Since vanilla is patreon version it sounds real weird)
Can someone make a short description or if it is already explained in somewhere can i get a post link for explaination?
What is the difference? Ok, dev said vanilla has less content (Since vanilla is patreon version it sounds real weird)
Can someone make a short description or if it is already explained in somewhere can i get a post link for explaination?
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the vanilla version doesnt have the protagonist indulging in his darker impulses, i.e. rape brutal sex etc on women