SlapE

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IMHO, the story's about exploiting / not exploiting MC's female friends "in need". You can help and befriend them, you can exploit them, you can become their sex friend, you can become their lover.

This is what's the game's about. The whole point of it, I think.
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Master of Puppets isn't really wrong though, when I first saw the FiN page for the first time and read the synopsis, I also assumed it would be a harem game at first. I'm not really too disappointed it isn't, since it's such a well done and enjoyable experience as is. I am glad that there will be throuple/poly paths though, since I'm not too big on Monogamy. That's not to say there are monogamous relationships and monogamy focused games I haven't enjoyed.
 

Joshy92

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Tbf if it was a harem game the tag would be there
Or if it was planned it would sometimes be in a planned tag section

I know that's not a 100 percent accurate but that's how things usually work

Now I'm going back to simping for Mason & Nicki
I love those two so much
 
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Seems that there're no grey areas in this game (at least for me when I played it); or you're a saint... :giggle: or you're a sinner...:devilish:
 

Master of Puppets

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And it fits a Harem theme really well. Now, the Devs doesnt want to, and its his right to do so, as it is our right to give our feedback about it in this forum

He can do whatever he wants with that feedback
Right. It's not like this is a story about one guy and one girl and people are pushing for him to bang the random girls he meets along the way, that is indeed stupid. But here, we've got a bunch of girls who are either already love interests or are strongly telegraphed as becoming them. For someone to say that that wouldn't work as a harem game... Well. That's equally stupid IMO.
 
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Thanks for taking the time to give your input. The harem subject actually came up recently on my Discord. Though it wasn't a lot of people chiming in, those that did basically agreed that my plan to stick to throuple/poly relationships with select girls is a decent compromise between single love interests, and a harem. And I still plan to have a possible 'corruption' harem, where you basically just have all the girls as sugar-babies/FWB with no expectation of commitment. But, I stand by my assertion that a full love harem just wouldn't fit the world/characters I've built thus far.
Will share my own opinion if you don't mind! And I fully agree. Harems usually are heavily centralized on the MC and his story, and new partners are added as part of his own journey towards a vague objective. They revolve around the MC, and their stories must have an intersection (and be solved by) the MC's.

Which is not what FiN is about at all imo. This is a work of internal introspection and consequences of your choices, and how you decide to interfere in others' journeys. Everyone has their own, and you're not the end be it all of it. Making it a harem would also, more importantly, completely disturb the delicate balance between the characters, forcing interactions that would be hard to wave away and keep them in game.


To speak broadly to the subject of what people are looking for in these games.. I don't/can't really concern myself with that. If I only listened to the loudest voices/critics, the game would look wildly different. Maybe it'd even be more successful! But, it wouldn't be mine.
It almost certainly wouldn't be more succesful. It'd be a schizo mess, full of plot holes and contradictions. You can't please everyone. All authors should listen and absorb criticism, specially constructive one, but don't sacrfice your vision for it, or else you will get something that pleases nobody.


Curiously, I've found that the most controversial/divisive elements of FiN, are the ones where I gain my most ardent supporters. Nicki, Gabby, Mason.. These three get so much hate, but they also tend to be some of the most beloved characters in the game. So, I'm going to keep going down the path I've set up, and I think that for people who are aligned with my sensibilities, it'll be a fun ride. For those that aren't? Less so, but still pretty good.
Usually this means they have a lot of personality or at least, a lot of character, which means they either hit it off with someone or didn't. The good but bland doesn't awaken strong emotions either way. So I'd take it with a badge of honor.
 

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Even if I rarely look at tags myself this is why I never assume anything is a harem out of the box. While I personally don't care for harems as I find they get boring with how often they have lewd scenes and story / characters usually suffer because of it. But ill still play them without compliant even if I dislike a certain game. At the end of the day doesn't matter if it's a harem or not a harem as long as it looks interesting and the game is enjoyable. Which is why I never understood why some people only play harems unless they don't got much time and want to min max all the content in 1 playthrough.
 

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Which is why I never understood why some people only play harems unless they don't got much time and want to min max all the content in 1 playthrough.
It's that for me but also, almost every game has the LIs get sad if MC doesn't pursue the, and ad stupid and overly sensative as it is that makes me feel sad irl. And since these are games for enjoyment I prefer to not feel that way, so I almost exclusively play harem games unless, as is the case here the writing is just too damn good. I was originally suckered in though by the banner art and mistakenly thought it was a harem.
 

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Will share my own opinion if you don't mind! And I fully agree. Harems usually are heavily centralized on the MC and his story, and new partners are added as part of his own journey towards a vague objective. They revolve around the MC, and their stories must have an intersection (and be solved by) the MC's.

Which is not what FiN is about at all imo. This is a work of internal introspection and consequences of your choices, and how you decide to interfere in others' journeys. Everyone has their own, and you're not the end be it all of it. Making it a harem would also, more importantly, completely disturb the delicate balance between the characters, forcing interactions that would be hard to wave away and keep them in game.
That isn't even remotely true. Harems are usually focused on the girls and their problems, and how the MC can help them with them. Hey, that sounds awful familiar!
 

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Will share my own opinion if you don't mind! And I fully agree. Harems usually are heavily centralized on the MC and his story, and new partners are added as part of his own journey towards a vague objective. They revolve around the MC, and their stories must have an intersection (and be solved by) the MC's.
There are plenty of examples that prove this wrong, but i can tell you one that comes to mind first, which is Chasing Sunsets
 

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Harems don't make any sense but if the dev wants to write some fantasy anything goes. But that's not the case here, Neon wants to make a somehow realistic story. So forget about Harems or fucking your mom :WeSmart:
Loving harems, in general, don't make a lot of sense. Dominating several women into that kind of relationship happens in real life a lot.
 

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Loving harems, in general, don't make a lot of sense. Dominating several women into that kind of relationship happens in real life a lot.
Unless you're a pimp dealing with hookers or from some community that allow that type of thing, no, Harems don't happen all the time in the West. Same goes for incest, you must be from some backward community in the middle of nowhere to see that kind of shit.
 

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Harem settings are usually silly because we have several characters that love the protagonist but they don't really love each other however they decided to somehow "share".

I may joke sometimes but prefer to make multiple save routes here than having everyone wanting to fall on Guy's dick. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Harem settings are usually silly because we have several characters that love the protagonist but they don't really love each other however they decided to somehow "share".

I may joke sometimes but prefer to make multiple save routes here than having everyone wanting to fall on Guy's dick. :ROFLMAO:
I prefer just having one girl and let the others wish they were the girl I chose.
 

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Harem settings are usually silly because we have several characters that love the protagonist but they don't really love each other however they decided to somehow "share".

I may joke sometimes but prefer to make multiple save routes here than having everyone wanting to fall on Guy's dick. :ROFLMAO:
Not just that maybe it's cause the nature of porn games and harems. But I find girls in most harems games tend to "love" the mc too quickly and easily. Which leads to sex scenes with basically all the girls in said harems happen way to easy at least to me personally. I understand not all of them are going to be or should be slow burn since harem games are more for the porn aspect of these games rather than characters or story. But I feel some should be slow at the very least.
 
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Unless you're a pimp dealing with hookers or from some community that allow that type of thing, no, Harems don't happen all the time in the West. Same goes for incest, you must be from some backward community in the middle of nowhere to see that kind of shit.
Yeah, cause things like Nxium or Epstein's island don't exist or something?
 
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Hey hey, I'm doing Kinktober ( , ) this month, working off the attached prompt lists. If anyone has any prompt/love interest combos, call them out! I've got like 23 more to do. Just keep in mind they need to be Patreon-safe (no non-con, watersports, gore, etc.) and nothing that'd show too much of any of the girls that haven't had a nude/sex scene yet. So nothing too crazy for Wren, Madison, Alex, Bonnie, etc.

Dumb me forgot to attach a render I'd done to today's post. It'll be with the next set, but for now here's Sweat, with Alex.

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