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If harem ends up not being an option and I do have to pick just one I'll probably start over mono Nikki. I'm very loyal and can't break it off with first girl or cheat, if I have the option to not do those things. It's part of why I hate having to choose, because it'll always be first girl, so if there's no harem to work towards (preferably openly and honestly) I miss the rest of the game. And ain't nobody got time to replay things, I don't even replay my favorite AAA games.
My MC just wants to let you know...
 
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If harem ends up not being an option and I do have to pick just one I'll probably start over mono Nikki. I'm very loyal and can't break it off with first girl or cheat, if I have the option to not do those things. It's part of why I hate having to choose, because it'll always be first girl, so if there's no harem to work towards (preferably openly and honestly) I miss the rest of the game. And ain't nobody got time to replay things, I don't even replay my favorite AAA games.
Yeah I'm pretty much the opposite I really like games that give you the option for monogamy.
But I think we will both be happy by the end of the game.
 
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If Nicki isn't in such dire straits when she returns you have to ask why he doesn't tell her to fuck off after she ghosted him. If she is in serious trouble then even if she really upset him, he just can't do that to her. If she isn't though...
I said before what change I think should be made to chapter 3. Let us choose how to treat her upon her return, which we can't currently really do; how he treats her is determined by the choice made in the beginning. If we were mean to her at the start, he's an asshole to her with only some minor choices to be slightly more or less harsh with her, and if we were nice to her at the start then he's automatically understanding and forgiving with only a slight difference in just how forgiving he is. No choice to not forgive her. Instead, IMO, give us the choice how he reacts to her reappearance. Maybe he treated her badly at the start, but he regrets that and is nice to her and seeks her forgiveness. Or maybe he was nice to her at the beginning, but after she ghosts him it hardens his heart and he is cruel to her upon her return. Give the player some agency over this instead of changing how she returns.
I kinda like this idea too, maybe it can be combined with original idea of dev. Slight changes in narrative and a few more options can be better. Though, branching in this game is already verge of overwhelming and we will have a few must branching if this change also adds to it I don't think it will be a good idea. :unsure:
 

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Yeah I'm pretty much the opposite I really like games that give you the option for monogamy.
But I think we will both be happy by the end of the game.
If there's only one real li I'm down for those, or if the girls don't act all sad post rejection... I feel bad making the pixels sad, never can complete an evil run in any game that has an either or. Here (the forums) especially if MC is too jerky or creepy I just nope out.
 
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If there's only one real li I'm down for those, or if the girls don't act all sad post rejection... I feel bad making the pixels sad, never can complete an evil run in any game that has an either or. Here (the forums) especially if MC is too jerky or creepy I just nope out.
Yeah, I agree I have stopped playing a lot of games on here because the mc is just a creepy arsehole with no options for the player to change that.
But I can already tell this game is different.
 

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I think its better if you dont like everyone in a game or piece of entertainment. I mean, I have said it before, Nicki is a well-written polarizing character that has a group that love her, and a group that doesn't. I think her character is just as intended...It is supposed to make you think, if I was the newly rich MC would help her, or use her in ch.1, when she appears again, would you forgive her, or continue to use her, would you tell her fuck off and be a dick...well if she is always just an easy digestible likable character, where is the fun in that? Everyone would just pick her most likely...Neon is writing a story and it caused engagement in both spectrums...I feel nothing needs changing at all IMO.
 
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Such proof much wow!
You read into it what you want to see, she came asking for help Guy pushes her farther... And after that she doesn't hook up with anyone while doing the modeling gigs. If titty pics = whore for you, that's a you issue not an objective reality issue.
 

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I think its better if you dont like everyone in a game or piece of entertainment. I mean, I have said it before, Nicki is a well-written polarizing character that has a group that love her, and a group that doesn't. I think her character is just as intended...It is supposed to make you think, if I was the newly rich MC would help her, or use her in ch.1, when she appears again, would you forgive her, or continue to use her, would you tell her fuck off and be a dick...well if she is always just an easy digestible likable character, where is the fun in that? Everyone would just pick her most likely...Neon is writing a story and it caused engagement in both spectrums...I feel nothing needs changing at all IMO.
Irl if in this situation I'd be disappointed as fuck in Nikki, but I wouldn't hate her. Life's hard out there and rarely does someone make it to the finish line the way they'd like, undamaged, or with no regrets... I just try to give people (even in vidya games) the same leeway I'd like. Admittedly it's easier to forgive in a game when the feels aren't directly mine but rather those of a proxy, but irl I've forgiven some pretty big shit. The anger is just not worth hanging on to.

Broken characters are more real, and way more engaging in a story. Everyone has their too much bullshit threshold in a relationship, but in a video game story, even though I'm a self insert player, that threshold is sky high (especially cause I avoid games with my deal breakers.
 
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Such proof much wow!
You read into it what you want to see, she came asking for help Guy pushes her farther... And after that she doesn't hook up with anyone while doing the modeling gigs. If titty pics = whore for you, that's a you issue not an objective reality issue.
To be honest context is the most important thing for these stuff. If your gf sending her titty pics behind your back to someone, it is cheating; if she does that for money on OF or somewhere, it is whoring and if she pose naked for some sort of modelling it is not whoring; if she sends titty pics ask about a mole under it, it is not cheating etc.

What Nicki does a little bit in grey area but I think it leans to whoring more IMO, though it is debatable.
 

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To be honest context is the most important thing for these stuff. If your gf sending her titty pics behind your back to someone, it is cheating; if she does that for money on OF or somewhere, it is whoring and if she pose naked for some sort of modelling it is not whoring; if she sends titty pics ask about a mole under it, it is not cheating etc.

What Nicki does a little bit in grey area but I think it leans to whoring more IMO, though it is debatable.
Whore = prostitute. OF is not prostitution, generally speaking. Regardless we all sell our bodies and minds to live (any VA hospital is full of examples) and regardless of how that's done, people deserve dignity and not to be denigrated for what they do to survive. Rather than looking upon someone with disgust, in this situation with Nikki or similar (there are plenty, allegedly, of sex workers who enjoy their work and aren't coerced, to whom sympathy wouldn't apply/would be kinda rude), maybe some sympathy for someone getting to a point where they felt that was their only out.
 

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It's funny, I expected Mason to get some blowback due to the fact he's actually engaged in prostitution. But everyone seems generally chill with that, while Nicki gets way more flak for speed-running the OnlyFans --> sugarbaby --> porn pipeline. :'D
 

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Do I need to defend my waifu again.
Who cares if Nicki did porn or anything like that.
She still kicks arse, My mc is going to treat her right all game if I have anything to say about it.
 
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It's funny, I expected Mason to get some blowback due to the fact he's actually engaged in prostitution. But everyone seems generally chill with that, while Nicki gets way more flak for speed-running the OnlyFans --> sugarbaby --> porn pipeline. :'D
Well like I said before, context is the most important aspect of it. Mason did it for surviving, I'd never have a problem with that. It was even sad when Mason remembered the past and had imaginary confrontation with his father. If you speed-run that for saving your no-good bf's ass, no respect from me. For Nicki my only thought was "yeah you deserved it". :cautious:
 
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It's funny, I expected Mason to get some blowback due to the fact he's actually engaged in prostitution. But everyone seems generally chill with that, while Nicki gets way more flak for speed-running the OnlyFans --> sugarbaby --> porn pipeline. :'D
Well y'know between Mason getting shat on by life without any input on his behalf and Nikki making bad decisions or even worse decisions...
 

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It's funny, I expected Mason to get some blowback due to the fact he's actually engaged in prostitution. But everyone seems generally chill with that, while Nicki gets way more flak for speed-running the OnlyFans --> sugarbaby --> porn pipeline. :'D
ACTUAL Prostitution....
Onlyfans, Tattoos and dyed hair...
 

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True although my mc wont be with any girl but Nicki so i miss out on content anyway and tbh i dont care about that.
Plus when the game releases on here i would have to wait to play until the patch is updated.
Fair enough. But, the patch doesn't need updating with this game, as it doesn't come with any game content, simply a text file that tells the game that you have patch content enabled, which is already included with the base download. Even when the dev splits the game into two versions, I think the "Friends in Need" version will still be what gets uploaded here and patch will still be a simple text file or w/e, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

It's funny, I expected Mason to get some blowback due to the fact he's actually engaged in prostitution. But everyone seems generally chill with that, while Nicki gets way more flak for speed-running the OnlyFans --> sugarbaby --> porn pipeline. :'D
Haha, yeah... I'd guess the main reason is that Mason's character doesn't have history with the MC and is upfront about everything and nothing really needs to be figured out on the part of MC. With Nicki, I think it's two main things: 1) her relationship with MC is more complicated (to me at least) and I always get the feeling she's confused and unsure about a lot of things between them, whereas MC tells us that he has feelings for her; and 2) the order of events in chp. 1, i.e. she gets dressed up which signals interest, spends time with MC, and then asks for money. Because of those two things combined, I imagine it allows the especially paranoid players to project all of their worst expectations onto the character, despite the fact you've said otherwise and have left various things in the game that notify her true intentions.

Some of these dudes are probably the kind who throw around "cuck" willy-nilly and are really, really sensitive to feeling or appearing emasculated, perhaps even are naturally mistrusting of women in relationships, which we can all agree is an unhealthy growing trend these days..

I feel like your revamped chp.1 should fix #2 (order of events) issue some players have since your intended friend relationship will be emphasized more and it will be easier to see that Nicki is being pushed around and manipulated by Brent (wearing the dress, asking for money, etc.).. but if they're the aforementioned kind of guy, who couldn't sympathize with a real woman in the real world if they tried, they're probably going to keep harping on about "whore Nicki using and cucking the player" no matter what you do. :LOL:
 
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No more gross than sex for wuv. It is largely the same procedure. I've had sex with worse people for worse reasons. Hell, one time I had sex with a girl who was so fucking ugly I thought Dorothy was gonna drop a house on her just to keep her busy so that my friend could score with her friend. Take one for the team and you are a hero. Do it to avoid bankruptcy and everybody loses their minds.
 
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