just played update after replaying the second half of the game.
MC's obsession with Ashe's Halloween photo and his own photo with Nicki didn't progress. I didn't think Lucien would be linked to it, but I thought MC would have some kind of small breakthrough after seeing Lucien's photos. Might be that MC is somehow recognizing the style of the pictures, like the composition and framing, and Dutch angle style. maybe they were taken by Vaughn or Jamie
NeonGhosts aside from the typos, I stumbled upon this small bug in the code, and it seems the "mslove" part should be for when MC accepts Mason's gender as male instead.
I'm a bit disappointed that when MC turns Risa down in the hotel, and choose not to take advantage of her, it's worth less relationship points than executing the sex scene "perfectly". her reaction would suggest that she would value MC being a very good guy higher than him being a good fuck while she is half conscious.
I also felt that the talk with Risa's father was a bit lacking when it came to actually talking about Risa. Most of it is him showing his disdain for MC, while MC tries to deflect unless we choose to be confrontational. he seems to care about his daughter in his own toxic way, but if he is even a tenth as "special" as he thinks he is over the "average" people, then he would recognize that MC has a bit of influence over Risa, and he would use that instead of trying to separate both. MC could also have suggested it. Both trying to collaborate, Carl explaining what he expected of her, and MC offering some nudges and guardrails to steer her in the general direction of a good outcome for Risa. there was no compromise in that scene. her Dad says that MC is a bad influence for her, but he knows that MC does charity work even if he didn't earn his money, while his daughter is a drug addict that her father himself doesn't trust at all to get better, and who he knows is the one that dragged MC around to go buy drugs and bring her back home. that was funny as hell.
also, in the code, there was a third choice, but its condition is impossible to achieve. was it a relic of an abandoned version where the hotel part didn't exist and we would actually go directly to Risa's house and rape her there?
From what we can read in the comments here, Risa's popularity is really split. some really dislike her, even hate her. to me, it shows she is a great character. a bad character would just be ignored, or would not have any reaction to it.
the whole update is basically about Risa. maybe it's too Risa cotent heavy, and it was too much trying to accelerate her rise to main LI status in less than 12 hours of in game time. spreading her content over two of three updates would have worked too, imo, though i'm not sure if it would not mess up the plan for the overall story. we can opt out of her whole story, so it might not be too impactful.
I don't like fake tits, but I liked the fact that they were explained and justified in the game, and it made sense.
but it didn't make sense to have a choice to go to the lawful waffle, I think. MC could just go to any cafe or bar closer to their immediate location. in fact, he shouldn't even consider bringing her to a public location. going to the hotel directly and bringing her coffee in the privacy of the hotel room would make more sense. MC couldn't wait to ditch Risa and going "backstage", while leaving her to someone he can't trust and who can't even focus on watching Risa who then is completely alone and vulnerable. And Risa being that stoned and vulnerable might prompt the other customers to call the cops or at least 911 for some medical assistance. game wise, MC could have gone to the lawful waffle after leaving Risa's house, to relax and collect himself before going to the gym. forcing the choice for Risa vs Pepper doesn't bring anything to the game. it was a Risa focused update, so might as well go all the way. there was already a choice between Nicki, Ashe and Risa the night before, and at the beginning of the game we had to choose between Gaby and Pepper+Viola, but those worked better in the game at the time. I also get that the more the game progresses, the more we will have to make choices between the LI MC will spend time with, but it should make sense in the story.
last but no least, it didn't make sense, to me at this point in the game, that Brent would bang on the door of MC's old apartment. He knows that MC moved to another apartment as Nicki went to the new condo when she begged for money.
also it happened years go. she met Lucien when she was 18 or 19. she is now 24. 5-6 is a lot of growth, especially after she went through all that. teens think they know everything, are immune to all problems and bad stuff only happens to everybody else except themselves.
and Lucien is smart enough to avoid abusing the only daughter of one of the richest family around. she is more useful to him as a drug addict that no one seriously believes in and that he can manipulate to help ease in his real victims in his human trafficking.
also, if he crosses that line with Rise, she would become a walking bag of evidence. a credible, believable bag of evidence even.
bringing the photos after she told him about them could work better indeed.
but i don't think it would shock her that much that he would run a background check on her being who he is. she might take it as a compliment, as she is smart enough to understand it means he is interested in her to the point that he needs to.
tying up all those plot lines about lewd photos out large can be challenging now. it adds to the world building and the immersion. but i'm not sure you should feel forced to add lewd content just because it's an AVN. I understand that a big part of the community demands lewd content every update, though there is a sizeable part that appreciates the story and the writing first
might not be the loan shark either. because Nicki would be perceived as "used goods" when she came back, and Lucien works with innocent girls for his special videos. he has other businesses, but I don't think he would push that hard for Nicki to shoot content for him. it would just be a waste of time for him.
or you wanted to be able to fight Lucien while insulting and degrading Risa ?
well, if you choose to rape Cherry AND Risa, then you might be forced to choose to take down Lucien later as he now has blackmail material against MC, and Risa will hate you.
even if MC took the actions you suggested, they would not yield immediate results anyway. his quickest route is Risa. she has the most information about Lucien. but she is not in a state to reveal anything coherent. waiting it out makes sense.
there is no way a high profile photographer would have any immediate useful info about a pornographer that constantly changes names. investigating with his "web hunting skills" would take a very long time too, with very low chance of any result the same day, especially since MC still has a full schedule. he could be investigating a little bit WHILE waiting for Risa's consciousness to come around, but it would give anything actionnable. and do you really think Risa's dad would give any info to MC for free? xD MC hints at it if you choose to be confrontational but there is zero reaction from either the dad or Owen...
Risa is literally the only single piece of useful source of information about Lucien. she is an accomplice and a witness, she has the phone number of that girl from kansas even if she may have changed it.
using MC's resources and connections requires evidence/proof, and a significant amount of time.
Randomly flailing your arms in the air while running in circles doesn't accomplish much. Lucien is smart and methodical, he would not fall easily. MC can immediately call the cops, but there was nothing left in the drug den just minutes afterwards... MC needs a solid plan, not just throwing himself in hysterical panick.
i think you might feel that way because you take it personally. but it's a game where you read the story of a character whose action you can influence a bit. it's not your story. it's not your life.
if MC gets a bit closer to Risa than you'd like yourself IRL, it doesn't really matter, it's MC that is close to her, not you. if she is not reliable and fucks up later, it's MC that pays the consequences, not you.
MC prioritized Risa over Cherry, that tells you what kind of character he is, and him being different from you is not intrinsically a bad thing
so the author can listen to feedback or not, it's a choice. it is absolutely not a requirement, nor his job.
MC's obsession with Ashe's Halloween photo and his own photo with Nicki didn't progress. I didn't think Lucien would be linked to it, but I thought MC would have some kind of small breakthrough after seeing Lucien's photos. Might be that MC is somehow recognizing the style of the pictures, like the composition and framing, and Dutch angle style. maybe they were taken by Vaughn or Jamie
NeonGhosts aside from the typos, I stumbled upon this small bug in the code, and it seems the "mslove" part should be for when MC accepts Mason's gender as male instead.
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I'm a bit disappointed that when MC turns Risa down in the hotel, and choose not to take advantage of her, it's worth less relationship points than executing the sex scene "perfectly". her reaction would suggest that she would value MC being a very good guy higher than him being a good fuck while she is half conscious.
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I also felt that the talk with Risa's father was a bit lacking when it came to actually talking about Risa. Most of it is him showing his disdain for MC, while MC tries to deflect unless we choose to be confrontational. he seems to care about his daughter in his own toxic way, but if he is even a tenth as "special" as he thinks he is over the "average" people, then he would recognize that MC has a bit of influence over Risa, and he would use that instead of trying to separate both. MC could also have suggested it. Both trying to collaborate, Carl explaining what he expected of her, and MC offering some nudges and guardrails to steer her in the general direction of a good outcome for Risa. there was no compromise in that scene. her Dad says that MC is a bad influence for her, but he knows that MC does charity work even if he didn't earn his money, while his daughter is a drug addict that her father himself doesn't trust at all to get better, and who he knows is the one that dragged MC around to go buy drugs and bring her back home. that was funny as hell.
also, in the code, there was a third choice, but its condition is impossible to achieve. was it a relic of an abandoned version where the hotel part didn't exist and we would actually go directly to Risa's house and rape her there?
From what we can read in the comments here, Risa's popularity is really split. some really dislike her, even hate her.
to me, it shows she is a great character. a bad character would just be ignored, or would not have any reaction to it.the whole update is basically about Risa. maybe it's too Risa cotent heavy, and it was too much trying to accelerate her rise to main LI status in less than 12 hours of in game time. spreading her content over two of three updates would have worked too, imo, though i'm not sure if it would not mess up the plan for the overall story. we can opt out of her whole story, so it might not be too impactful.
I don't like fake tits, but I liked the fact that they were explained and justified in the game, and it made sense.
but it didn't make sense to have a choice to go to the lawful waffle, I think. MC could just go to any cafe or bar closer to their immediate location. in fact, he shouldn't even consider bringing her to a public location. going to the hotel directly and bringing her coffee in the privacy of the hotel room would make more sense. MC couldn't wait to ditch Risa and going "backstage", while leaving her to someone he can't trust and who can't even focus on watching Risa who then is completely alone and vulnerable. And Risa being that stoned and vulnerable might prompt the other customers to call the cops or at least 911 for some medical assistance. game wise, MC could have gone to the lawful waffle after leaving Risa's house, to relax and collect himself before going to the gym. forcing the choice for Risa vs Pepper doesn't bring anything to the game. it was a Risa focused update, so might as well go all the way. there was already a choice between Nicki, Ashe and Risa the night before, and at the beginning of the game we had to choose between Gaby and Pepper+Viola, but those worked better in the game at the time. I also get that the more the game progresses, the more we will have to make choices between the LI MC will spend time with, but it should make sense in the story.
last but no least, it didn't make sense, to me at this point in the game, that Brent would bang on the door of MC's old apartment. He knows that MC moved to another apartment as Nicki went to the new condo when she begged for money.
you can say that she does it for selfish reasons too. she feels guilty and needs to free her conscience. she needs MC to redeem herself. so she pulls him in her world to get his help. her world being her father and Lucien. not the greatest company
she didn't know enough about MC to trust he would be able to actually know anything about it. but she knew he is well respected enough that some people would listen to him, at least. he is much more credible that her. she forgot that him going to the cops would mean he would have to reveal he went there to buy drugs, so either his reputation would take a hit from that, or he would have to throw her under the bus as the drug addict that pulled him in, which might endanger her freedom as she would be a repeat offender.
You already know my feelings about Risa, so bias aside(I hope
From downplaying her fault in the trafficking, to the fact that she is mostly portrayed as smart and resourceful, yet was too dumb to realize what was going on, to the interesting detail that she seems to be the onlyJunkiegirl Lucien doesn't sexually abuse, everything seems so far fetched that it takes me out of it. The game really, really wants you to like and care about Risa.
That aside I take back what I said about introducing Lucien too late in the story. I was wrong.
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Edit: I hope the Pepper Twin 'Retcon' stays and its not a bait and switch. I hated her being a camwhore, for me it has joined to form the trifecta of overused tropes, cheated MC backstory, Raped LI backstory and now OF/Camwhore LI.
she tells her story from her perspective, and she also needs to ask for MC's help. she needs to be seen as a good person too. she can't unload all her guilt. the game is not downplaying her story. it's the character that does it and it makes sense.
also it happened years go. she met Lucien when she was 18 or 19. she is now 24. 5-6 is a lot of growth, especially after she went through all that. teens think they know everything, are immune to all problems and bad stuff only happens to everybody else except themselves.
and Lucien is smart enough to avoid abusing the only daughter of one of the richest family around. she is more useful to him as a drug addict that no one seriously believes in and that he can manipulate to help ease in his real victims in his human trafficking.
also, if he crosses that line with Rise, she would become a walking bag of evidence. a credible, believable bag of evidence even.
MC does eat out Gabby the first time he went to her home. that's how their romance begins. she discovers she likes oral and can have orgasms while receiving it.
probably because you played the beta.
depending on your choices and how the date with Ashe goes, you get an option to go visit Risa during the night and you bond with her quite a bit with an option for a bit of fun with her.
if you ask Nicki to take care of Mason, you will see her before next update
you don't see it without the patch.
oh! good points! thanks
bringing the photos after she told him about them could work better indeed.
but i don't think it would shock her that much that he would run a background check on her being who he is. she might take it as a compliment, as she is smart enough to understand it means he is interested in her to the point that he needs to.
thanks for that insight into the dev process
tying up all those plot lines about lewd photos out large can be challenging now. it adds to the world building and the immersion. but i'm not sure you should feel forced to add lewd content just because it's an AVN. I understand that a big part of the community demands lewd content every update, though there is a sizeable part that appreciates the story and the writing first
interesting theory. but i don't think he could be the guy that took Ashe's photos. he is not easy to track down. so MC would not be able to find him just with the old account of that model platform. especially because he changes names often.
might not be the loan shark either. because Nicki would be perceived as "used goods" when she came back, and Lucien works with innocent girls for his special videos. he has other businesses, but I don't think he would push that hard for Nicki to shoot content for him. it would just be a waste of time for him.
it might be more accurate to say her dad thinks SHE failed, while he thinks he did everything right. he seems like that kind of assholes
where is the harem tag ?Nah, it’ll go a bit longer. I could end it there.. But, I think it’ll end around Chapter 12 or 14. I kind of want to get to a point where most of the characters have their relationship trajectories established. That way, in Season 2 it’s less about figuring out where you stand with a girl, and more about solidifying that relationship.
Right now, Nicki’s basically set. Ashe is about 90% there. Gabby and Brittani will be pretty soon. Viola, Mason, and Risa a little after that.
If I could get all those relationships firmed up/locked in before the end of Season One, that’d be ideal.
you can help Risa taking down Lucien without romancing/fucking her. so it's not "straight through Risatown". it means to be her friend though. but that's not forcing you to be that close. you can just be polite/friendly, not being a jerk basically.
or you wanted to be able to fight Lucien while insulting and degrading Risa ?
well, if you choose to rape Cherry AND Risa, then you might be forced to choose to take down Lucien later as he now has blackmail material against MC, and Risa will hate you.
even if MC took the actions you suggested, they would not yield immediate results anyway. his quickest route is Risa. she has the most information about Lucien. but she is not in a state to reveal anything coherent. waiting it out makes sense.
there is no way a high profile photographer would have any immediate useful info about a pornographer that constantly changes names. investigating with his "web hunting skills" would take a very long time too, with very low chance of any result the same day, especially since MC still has a full schedule. he could be investigating a little bit WHILE waiting for Risa's consciousness to come around, but it would give anything actionnable. and do you really think Risa's dad would give any info to MC for free? xD MC hints at it if you choose to be confrontational but there is zero reaction from either the dad or Owen...
Risa is literally the only single piece of useful source of information about Lucien. she is an accomplice and a witness, she has the phone number of that girl from kansas even if she may have changed it.
using MC's resources and connections requires evidence/proof, and a significant amount of time.
Randomly flailing your arms in the air while running in circles doesn't accomplish much. Lucien is smart and methodical, he would not fall easily. MC can immediately call the cops, but there was nothing left in the drug den just minutes afterwards... MC needs a solid plan, not just throwing himself in hysterical panick.
i think you might feel that way because you take it personally. but it's a game where you read the story of a character whose action you can influence a bit. it's not your story. it's not your life.
if MC gets a bit closer to Risa than you'd like yourself IRL, it doesn't really matter, it's MC that is close to her, not you. if she is not reliable and fucks up later, it's MC that pays the consequences, not you.
MC prioritized Risa over Cherry, that tells you what kind of character he is, and him being different from you is not intrinsically a bad thing
not at all. his job is to write the story he wants to tell. and make the game around that. especially if you want it to stay "art". if an artist starts to listen to customers, then it's not art anymore, it's just a commercial product.
so the author can listen to feedback or not, it's a choice. it is absolutely not a requirement, nor his job.
that's not fanfic. that's your fantasy
on her dark path, yes. MC can call her to Brittani's photoshoot. she will see the black eye. then when MC tells her about Brent's messages he received, she will reference his black eye as proof he is not invincible.
