VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.1 Remake v0.25] [NeonGhosts]

[Jarulf]

I like that idea, though I'm dating Nicole now so I should probably try to keep my hands off both Ashe and my sister....
Life is so unfair, what harm is a little two-timing and incest, eh?

 

[Joshy92]

I like that idea, though I'm dating Nicole now so I should probably try to keep my hands off both Ashe and my sister....
Life is so unfair, what harm is a little two-timing and incest, eh?

I draw the line at cheating honestly. That's why when a LI in this wants me to be exclusive I'll do it straight away.

 

[Jarulf]

I draw the line at cheating honestly. That's why when a LI in this wants me to be exclusive I'll do it straight away.

Yeah. I joked to a female friend a few years ago that I felt a little bad when I cheated on my main LI. She laughed at me (affectionately, I hope)
It's true though, I tend to play faithful MCs.

 

[Dessolos]

I draw the line at cheating honestly. That's why when a LI in this wants me to be exclusive I'll do it straight away.

For me it depends on the save. My main saves 100% but I don't play these games how I would in real life typically. So if there will be drama and consequences I can make a save and be a cheating piece of shit just to see it. But if it's cheating without any consequences aka most harem games fuck that.

 

[Jarulf]

For me it depends on the save. My main saves 100% but I don't play these games how I would in real life typically. So if there will be drama and consequences I can make a save and be a cheating piece of shit just to see it. But if it's cheating without any consequences aka most harem games fuck that.

Harem games are one thing, you're supposed to date everyone you fancy in them. They are pure fantasy.
But for a more realistic game, I usually try to play decent, faithful guys (or girls).
I miss a lot of content in some games...

 

[Joshy92]

For me it depends on the save. My main saves 100% but I don't play these games how I would in real life typically. So if there will be drama and consequences I can make a save and be a cheating piece of shit just to see it. But if it's cheating without any consequences aka most harem games fuck that.

I'm the opposite I always try and act how I would in real life. It's a credit to FiN that it brings so many different perspectives to it.

 

[Dessolos]

Harem games are one thing, you're supposed to date everyone you fancy in them. They are pure fantasy.
But for a more realistic game, I usually try to play decent, faithful guys (or girls).
I miss a lot of content in some games...

yeah true but im selectively OCD in these games where I will want to explore everything or almost everything even things I dont like to do like cheating. but never will be my main save. Tho there will be times I find it hard to do as well and can't do it depending on the LI and game. This game I think I can do it just for the consequences even tho I like the LI alot. Even tho I know it's going to kill me on the inside seeing the girls cry with how good Neon is at creating facial expressions. So yeah for me it's very much situational when I won't do it but I'm able to do it most of the time just to see it.

Keep in mind I play different than alot of people. I can't immerse myself , self insert , play in the MC's shoes or play what Id do in real life. As in my mind I play these more like a game to have fun and just do what I feel like doing. So because of that I find it easier to do things but I also have my limits as I am able to connect to other characters or feel for the LI just never the MC. But if I know what im doing is for the sake of just seeing content I can kind of turn my feeling off for a LI if it makes them cry / drama. Just depends on how emotional and heavy the scene is , if I can or can't do that usually can but there are times I can't either.

I'm the opposite I always try and act how I would in real life. It's a credit to FiN that it brings so many different perspectives to it.

Yeah I can't do that ive tried a few times and i'm way to passive of a person. I tried to play like that once and I quickly realized it just didn't work out for me because most of the choices that came up I wouldn't do in real life. (never tried it with this game)

 

[Jarulf]

I think I mostly play not as I would do in real life, but as I'd want to do.
I'm not really self-inserting properly, more like halfway? I haven't really thought much about it.
I just know that I rarely do things in- game that would make me uncomfortable in real life.

 

[xert13]

I think I mostly play not as I would do in real life, but as I'd want to do.
I'm not really self-inserting properly, more like halfway? I haven't really thought much about it.
I just know that I rarely do things in- game that would make me uncomfortable in real life.

The above couple of posts has been an interesting discussion. It is fascinating from a psychological perspective how people play and the actions they take. It seems to me that a lot of people play as themselves in these games. Hence, the virulent pushback to anything that smacks of cheating or NTR. I never put myself into the games. I never rename the MC my name or feel the MC is an extension of myself. I play more as a voyeur and almost always play the “dark” route because I would never do so in real life. Although, I must admit there has been one or two VNs where I played the dark route to completion, felt disgusted afterwards and erased the entire game. LoL. Not a psychologist, but it would certainly be an interesting dissertation dissecting how and why people play they way they do in these VNs. Ok, way to introspective - back to titties and ass.

 

[Nerv_rr]

Titties and ass...what a great combination. I've always wondered why there's more than one titty. Why not just the one ass cheek? Why do they arrive in pairs? Why are some bigger and others smaller?Perfectionism appears to necessitate a spectrum and something to do with polarity, and I've always imagined that my position on the evil-good spectrum was on the negative end.

 

[horns of giant]

but because she seems like she likes to take care of herself and not ask people for help

a love story with that Dynamic would be interesting

I like her. She is kind and strong despite she is disabled. She seems to be fun too.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

The short answer is yes, I do plan to add more bonus content! The long answer is a little more complicated.

The next public build of the game will have the three short stories I've written, bundled into the compressed file as PDF or RTF documents. And when I eventually redo Chapter 1, I want to include the 'legacy' Chapter 1 as a bonus that you can play from the main menu.

As for these image sets.. I doubt I'll add them in the near future, but I could see them being in the final/complete version of FiN Part One, or whatever I call it. The internet being what it is, I've seen way too much interesting stuff lost to time. So, it'd be nice to future-proof that material, and collect it all into one place. But, I don't want to do it immediately, since it's designed to be a perk for my supporters. Plus, all that stuff is available for just $2, which I don't think is an unreasonable ask.

Now, the more interesting thing I'd like to do, which I've discussed a bit in the past (but maybe not here?) is a series of "What If" mini-games, which would basically be familiar scenes, but with different characters, leading to different situations. I did another post with some examples, like: What if Guy met Wren at a fundraiser, instead of Ashe? What if Guy paid Pepper to model swimsuits, instead of Viola/Gabby? What if Brittani worked at the Lawful Waffle instead of Pepper?

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These would be a nice way for me to put out FiN-related content between updates, while not directly impacting the main story. And they'd play into the whole concept of choice/chance that is at the root of FiN's story.

(Though I think the Pepper one could honestly just be inserted directly into the story, without changing much.)

Woo! Good to know It being lost to time was exactly what I was thinking, it's such a shame when you discover a game like a decade later and never even know what art you've totally missed out on 'cause you were late to the party. Definitely don't want to cut into your supporter perks. But man, that's real exciting; look forward to that stuff when it comes

Just out of curiosity, would recreating those scenes & just swapping out the LI models be fast renders? Like, can you store scene positions & poses and transfer between the models? If so, that's really awesomely efficient use of dev time and is honestly brilliant imo. Then the only main thing you have to do is change the dialogue to work for the characters, although maybe have to change some poses too I guess depending on what the character requires, different reactions and what not. Sorry for the million questions btw, just really fascinating.

that reminds me brother I wanted to ask is the girl

with one leg a love interest


I think that would be interesting

not just because she's a person with a disability

but because she seems like she likes to take care of herself and not ask people for help

the MC on the other hand has a need to help people so I think

a love story with that Dynamic would be interesting

To expand on the other replies, think he said Alex & Risa are swapped now, so Risa is a main LI whereas Alex is a secondary. And ofc we can't forget dear Cassie who has yet to make her introduction

honestly the roleplay scenes are my favorite. Never knew id be into that but I find the roleplay stuff alot hotter than when it's a reality within the context of the game.

Yeah, it was a really nice break from the usual stuff you get on this site. Really nice tease and added an interesting dimension, someone egging on your perversions & fantasies (in a non-cringe way) instead of relying solely on Cassie to do that as almost all other devs would. And I'll bet that Ashe will still be pretty mortified if MC actually fucks Cassie, because even if it's a kink fantasy for her, most people can compartmentalize that and are still really freaked out when they bump into the real deal. That's going to be a real, real, real fun scene when it happens I get some people prefer the full-on fantasy approach where all the characters are mega freak perverts that are projections of the MC, but leaning into ~realism & character identity is so much more gratifying imo.

Also, yet again, have to mention that good dialogue & pacing just changes everything so much. I hope more VN devs take the time to develop that skill because I think it has a lot to do with this game's success. Maybe people are getting sick of some of the low-effort silliness out there.

 

[Joshy92]

So, I was looking at the picture in the op again (which I absolutely love btw) and Risa looks really beautiful in that dress.
I know that's not exactly big information but I just thought I would mention it.

 

[CrazyRabbit]

Dunno if it was adressed but :

- What about Cassie ? Main or secondary ?

- And what does secondary means ? Side girls with potential impact of the main if we get caught ? Parallel universe to give horny guys something to tide them over until the Main happen ?

 

[soprano31]

Dunno if it was adressed but :

- What about Cassie ? Main or secondary ?

- And what does secondary means ? Side girls with potential impact of the main if we get caught ? Parallel universe to give horny guys something to tide them over until the Main happen ?

 

[Bad Wolf]

Dunno if it was adressed but :

- What about Cassie ? Main or secondary ?

- And what does secondary means ? Side girls with potential impact of the main if we get caught ? Parallel universe to give horny guys something to tide them over until the Main happen ?

 

[CrazyRabbit]

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[xert13]

Titties and ass...what a great combination. I've always wondered why there's more than one titty. Why not just the one ass cheek? Why do they arrive in pairs? Why are some bigger and others smaller?Perfectionism appears to necessitate a spectrum and something to do with polarity, and I've always imagined that my position on the evil-good spectrum was on the negative end.

It is the Yin and Yang of it all. Left cheek, right cheek. Left boob, right boob. The duality of erotica….

 

[NeonGhosts]

Dunno if it was adressed but :

- What about Cassie ? Main or secondary ?

- And what does secondary means ? Side girls with potential impact of the main if we get caught ? Parallel universe to give horny guys something to tide them over until the Main happen ?

I generally avoid directly commenting on anything that could be construed as taboo. But, Cassie will be a fairly big part of the story, once she makes her appearance.

As for main/secondary.. It's really just about the depth/level of interactivity the girls will have in the story. A character like Wren (Ashe's friend) could have sex scenes, and scenes might change based on the player's decisions. But, I don't see her as really integral to the narrative, or as having a relationship with Guy, independent of Ashe.

Isabella is kind of in the same situation. She's an interesting character, and I think a lot could be done with her. But, I just don't really see her as having a love arc, or even having a ton of impact on the story, outside of Brittani's path.

But, that's not to say that I might not eventually go back and create an alternate route for some of these characters, once the game is finished. Using the What If scene with Pepper as an example where one choice changes but the narrative doesn't, I could see wrapping up the game and then going, "Alright.. Let's say Guy doesn't go to the museum fundraiser in Chapter Two. Or he leaves before he meets Ashe. So, instead he bumps into Mason in the alley, and helps him towards Wren's food pantry. They strike up a conversation, and exchange numbers."

Now, what changes in this scenario? Well, the next time Guy sees Mason, they're more familiar with each other. But, when he sees Ashe rollerblading in the park, he doesn't think much besides, "Damn, hottie alert.." Then, when he goes to meet with Wren to discuss contributing some money to her pantry, there's an increased level of familiarity. When Brittani tells him she tried out for a movie, he learns it was associated with the museum, and Wren says, "Oh, you should talk to my bestie, she's working on that.."

Now, we've got an alternate route for Wren, that still syncs up with the main plotline. MC still meets Mason and Ashe, and still works with Wren in exchange for exposure, but the circumstances change. I could absolutely see doing stuff like this as DLC/additional content, once the game is done. But, until then, I've already got my hands full. So, they stay secondary characters who touch the story, without being driving forces.

 

[Joshy92]

I like that phrasing "Damn hottie alert'" that's basically what I think when I see Mason or Nicki.

I mean have you guys seen their fucking tits? they look so juicy.