VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.1-7 v0.73] [NeonGhosts]

[Skep-tiker]

PLEASE, do not tell devs how to make their game, that is one of my few pet peeves on here. Overall, I don't have a problem with you on here, and our interactions have been positive. However, I do not tolerate people telling devs, especially devs I like, how to create their game, or to change their game to fit their preferences. The only time I have ever explicitly told a dev how to do their job, is when the dev was a liar who lured people to play their game with false pretenses. So I chewed them out, so that they would hopefully do better. Neon though, has been an amazing dev, and I implore and encourage Neon to stick to his vision of the game.

Hell, I'm not a fan of certain aspects of the game, notably Risa, but I would never tell him to change her. I will simply just avoid her, which the game will allow me to do.

As far as Guy being dominant, I mean in certain relationships and paths he is, but it's not really always the case. With certain LI's on certain paths he doesn't really show any sort of dominant streak. Therefore, it's not fair to insinuate that he is purely dominant by nature, he could very well be a switch as well, and it could make complete sense if written well.

Lastly, I'll just say, it's completely fine to give feedback and critiques, but just bluntly telling devs they should make their game a certain way, or to include or not include a certain kink or fetish, isn't.

Thank you for your feedback. I agree with you that i'm in no position to tell the dev what to do or not. Given that english is not my native language, there might be issues with my translation. From my point of view, i'm voicing an opinion in combination with a wish. I do not see any serious pressure to the dev from my one single post in this thread. Even if, i don't think that a sibgle post in a piracy forum might apply any pressure to the dev. And tbh, i think my comment is still very tsme in comparison to other requests, like people repeatedly asking for NTR in non NTR games and so on. But i'll keep your feedback in mind for the future and will evaluate if I need to change something.

Some people like to switch hit. I think that Guy would be kinda into it with the right girl. The sort of guys that like to be stepped on and led about on a leash are usually rich and powerful types who get tired of everyone bowing to them and kissing their ass and like a little escape from being in charge. As for women... well... be careful of the quiet ones.

Tbh, in about now at least 20 years never encountered real switchs. Those are kinda like unicorns. The switchs I encountered have been at best BDSM curios with a lose safeword as a sub on the one hand and not been very convincing as doms on the other hand. YMMV.

Having a switch in a AVN for the sake of variety is neither fish nor fowl in my opinion. Best to pick one and stay with it.

 

[Maviarab]

Tbh, in about now at least 20 years never encountered real switchs. Those are kinda like unicorns. The switchs I encountered have been at best BDSM curios with a lose safeword as a sub on the one hand and not been very convincing as doms on the other hand. YMMV.

100% this.

Being a dom or a sub is a state of mind, a state of being, not something you just 'switch' on or off like a lightbulb. It just isn't done.

 

[soldano]

Nah, you can tell a developer what you would like their game to be. Then whether he listens to you or not is up to him.
This is common sense, but since I see that there are people who get offended because someone tells a dev how they would like the game to be, I think it is necessary to remember it. There's no problem telling a developer what you'd like their game to be. Not a fucking problem. It is not disrespectful, nor is it something to feel offended or upset about. Another thing is to be annoying or rude. But if someone says, for example: Hey, NeonGhosts, put dwarfs in FiN. What's the problem? Why would that be an offense to the dev?

 

[submissive -Ben83]

I never really play male domination games, i cant even remember why i chose to play it but it was a whiie ago. Anyways this is one game i actually like, you can play as a really nice guy and i like that very option to do so, Im glad that i can have that choice if there wasnt i wouldnt be here .

I am excited to play this again i am just waiting to get dominated by pepper she is a hot little minx, not sure it is in the game yet.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Well, whether he puts femdom stuff in the game or not, it will obviously be completely avoidable. FiN stays on narrative paths for necessity, but it never ever forces sex or kinks on the player (except Nicki's first scene which is getting remedied in next-next patch). Come on guys, nothing to be concerned about

And anyways, if a great author like Neon can give the great gift of well-written kink to another lucky dude, good for them eh. I'm still waiting for dirty anal that'll never arrive 'cause no one else likes it. There's like 1 good game that has it and that's it.

 

[Dessolos]

Tbh, in about now at least 20 years never encountered real switchs. Those are kinda like unicorns. The switchs I encountered have been at best BDSM curios with a lose safeword as a sub on the one hand and not been very convincing as doms on the other hand. YMMV.

Having a switch in a AVN for the sake of variety is neither fish nor fowl in my opinion. Best to pick one and stay with it.

That may be true dont got any real experience. But I do think having a MC that is a switch is no problem at all in fact in some cases probably is better since it allows people that care about lewd to experience more of a variety of scenes they are into depending on their chosen LI.

I personally like both sub and dom MC's. Because im probably more of a sub in real life or somewhere in the middle not because im into being submissive or anything. But I honestly don't think I could be dominate in any shape or form if I wanted to my personality just won't allow me to. Yet when it comes to a fantasy setting like porn or AVN's I prefer dom scenes because not only do I find they can be hotter but I also wish it's something I could do but my personality wont let me hurt a fly so no way I could be a dom even if I prefer it. But I also like the more kind gentle and romantic lewd scenes that go at the girls pace and sex positions they want / like cause that is me in real life ( not sure if that count as being a sub or not). So I do think it's great to have a MC that can be both for that reason as well.

 

[Maviarab]

but my personality wont let me hurt a fly so no way I could be a dom even if I prefer it.

What are you on about Des?

The two are not mutually exclusive. Being a dominant is not about inflicting pain.

(Plus have you checked my sig...be curious onm your thoughts).

 

[Dessolos]

What are you on about Des?

The two are not mutually exclusive. Being a dominant is not about inflicting pain.

(Plus have you checked my sig...be curious onm your thoughts).

Well isn't there different levels of it? Cause when I think of a dom I think of someone that takes control more not pain which i cant do either anyways. id be asking if they want to change positions not just do it for example.

Never played that game yet

 

[Skep-tiker]

That may be true dont got any real experience. But I do think having a MC that is a switch is no problem at all in fact in some cases probably is better since it allows people that care about lewd to experience more of a variety of scenes they are into depending on their chosen LI.

I personally like both sub and dom MC's. Because im probably more of a sub in real life or somewhere in the middle not because im into being submissive or anything. But I honestly don't think I could be dominate in any shape or form if I wanted to my personality just won't allow me to. Yet when it comes to a fantasy setting like porn or AVN's I prefer dom scenes because not only do I find they can be hotter but I also wish it's something I could do but my personality wont let me hurt a fly so no way I could be a dom even if I prefer it. But I also like the more kind gentle and romantic lewd scenes that go at the girls pace and sex positions they want / like cause that is me in real life ( not sure if that count as being a sub or not). So I do think it's great to have a MC that can be both for that reason as well.

There are a lot of things that won't hurt at all. Restraining, degrading dirty talk, orgasm control/denial, bossing around...
And you can of course be kind during aftercare, or still decide you want plain vanilla today...

 

[Maviarab]

Well isn't there different levels of it? Cause when I think of a dom I think of someone that takes control

Dunno what's going on today, third thread I've had to explain stuff in today about this:

Define levels? But no, there are variations of the relationship and what kinks people are into. Giving and/or receiving pain can be one kink aspect yes. But that is not really consigned to Dom/Sub territory. I'll say again for anyone who may read this in the future.

A bit of kinky sex, letting your bf (or gf..no judging) tie you up here and there etc etc...a dom/sub DOES NOT MAKE!

As for control, a dominant never takes control. Ever. Period. A dominant is 'given' control by his/her submissive.

 

[Joshy92]

Honestly I don't really care about Dom or sub stuff.
I just want to make love to all these beauties.

 

[Maviarab]

Honestly I don't really care about Dom or sub stuff.
I just want to make love to all these beauties.

It shouldn't even be a topic for discussion in this thread as there is none, at all. The closest is Ashe's humilation route which has started to border onto the pyschological aspect of a D/s relationship (which a D/s relationship is 90% of)...

But even then, it's a big stretch. There is no domination or submissive content in this VN (unless I've missed something in the last update that I've skipped).

 

[Dessolos]

There are a lot of things that won't hurt at all. Restraining, degrading dirty talk, orgasm control/denial, bossing around...

well I cant do either of those things either

Dunno what's going on today, third thread I've had to explain stuff in today about this:

Define levels? But no, there are variations of the relationship and what kinks people are into. Giving and/or receiving pain can be one kink aspect yes. But that is not really consigned to Dom/Sub territory. I'l' say again for anyone who may read this in the future.

A bit of kinky sex, letting your bf (or gf..no judging) tie you up here and there etc etc...a dom/sub DOES NOT MAKE!

As for control, a dominant never takes control. Ever. Period. A dominant is 'given' control by his/her submissive.

Sorry for the annoying post then I honestly had no idea never looked into myself just from the word dominate I thought of take control, which may include things Skep-tiker talked about in his reply to me and that goes against my personality even if when I see them in a fantasy setting I like them. so thanks for the explanation. That is why I thought Guy from this game is both at times.

 

[Maviarab]

well I cant do either of those things either


Sorry for the annoying post then I honestly had no idea never looked into myself just from the word dominate I thought of take control, which may include things Skep-tiker talked about in his reply to me and that goes against my personality even if when I see them in a fantasy setting I like them. so thanks for the explanation. That is why I thought Guy from this game is both at times.

Well and I certainly won't blame you for this as in my 30 year experience, far too many people in the kink scene also confuse this issue too:

There's a huge difference between being dominant...and...domineering. Guy in my opinion, is firmly in the latter, not the former.

 

[NeonGhosts]

Can't you just take the builds off patreon and have people who want the builds just go on discord and download it from there since you can link patreon and discord?

Short answer: No. Patreon very clearly stipulates that using their platform to fund something through back-channels is still forbidden.

NeonGhosts Please stick to maledom. There are plenty femdom games out there. It makes no sense plotwise to make a dominant character suddenly submissive...

I'm not sure what brought this comment on, but maledom will continue to be the predominant kink in the game, just because it's kind of what all my various kinks fit under. But, I'm not going to rule out the option for Guy to let a girl take control every now and then. We've seen it once with Brittani's role-playing, and it didn't cause a fuss. I can't imagine a scenario where I'd ever make it unavoidable, though. This would also vary a lot based on which path you're on with certain girls.

 

[submissive -Ben83]

Short answer: No. Patreon very clearly stipulates that using their platform to fund something through back-channels is still forbidden.



I'm not sure what brought this comment on, but maledom will continue to be the predominant kink in the game, just because it's kind of what all my various kinks fit under. But, I'm not going to rule out the option for Guy to let a girl take control every now and then. We've seen it once with Brittani's role-playing, and it didn't cause a fuss. I can't imagine a scenario where I'd ever make it unavoidable, though. This would also vary a lot based on which path you're on with certain girls.

I'd let all the girls take control of me if you was in the game, that is your decision tho as the dev if this gem of a game . I am excited to have some femdom with pepper I think i read she will be a femdom charracter

 

[Bad Wolf]

What are you on about Des?

The two are not mutually exclusive. Being a dominant is not about inflicting pain.

(Plus have you checked my sig...be curious onm your thoughts).

well I cant do either of those things either


Sorry for the annoying post then I honestly had no idea never looked into myself just from the word dominate I thought of take control, which may include things Skep-tiker talked about in his reply to me and that goes against my personality even if when I see them in a fantasy setting I like them. so thanks for the explanation. That is why I thought Guy from this game is both at times.

Well and I certainly won't blame you for this as in my 30 year experience, far too many people in the kink scene also confuse this issue too:

There's a huge difference between being dominant...and...domineering. Guy in my opinion, is firmly in the latter, not the former.

Mavi is right. Inflictin pain is bein a sadist. Sadism and Dominance work together, but they aren't the same thing. I'm a Dominant and have sadist tendencies. But I prefer bein more the loving caregiver. I'm a DaddyDom.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Dunno what's going on today, third thread I've had to explain stuff in today about this:

Define levels? But no, there are variations of the relationship and what kinks people are into. Giving and/or receiving pain can be one kink aspect yes. But that is not really consigned to Dom/Sub territory. I'll say again for anyone who may read this in the future.

A bit of kinky sex, letting your bf (or gf..no judging) tie you up here and there etc etc...a dom/sub DOES NOT MAKE!

As for control, a dominant never takes control. Ever. Period. A dominant is 'given' control by his/her submissive.

So many games fail to understand that with their "domination" routes.

 

[Maviarab]

So many games fail to understand that with their "domination" routes.

Probably because so many of the devs have no real world experience and the only experience they do have is limited to their 'mate in the pub' or '50 Shades of Utter Bollocks'.

 

[SlapE]

Nah, you can tell a developer what you would like their game to be. Then whether he listens to you or not is up to him.
This is common sense, but since I see that there are people who get offended because someone tells a dev how they would like the game to be, I think it is necessary to remember it. There's no problem telling a developer what you'd like their game to be. Not a fucking problem. It is not disrespectful, nor is it something to feel offended or upset about. Another thing is to be annoying or rude. But if someone says, for example: Hey, NeonGhosts, put dwarfs in FiN. What's the problem? Why would that be an offense to the dev?

It's all about phrasing and intent, you can suggest things and give feedback without sounding entitled or coming off as a douchebag. Any person with common sense would know this already.

For example, if I wanted to suggest to Neon to add a certain fetish/kink to the game, I would say something along the lines of:

Hey Neon, I have a suggestion. It would be sweet if on Mason's path with the pet-play stuff, we could have the option to walk him around on a leash. This might make more sense on the corruption path, but I wouldn't mind it on the romance route either, as long as it makes sense.

Notice how I suggested something, without coming off as entitled, douche-y, or without insulting the dev or other players? Well... only if everyone could do this.

So yes, feedback, critiques, and suggestions are completely fine, and in most cases welcome. Just be respectful about it, the dev can decide what to do with your feedback and suggestions, and I'm sure Neon appreciates it way more when it's done in a respectful, less demanding manner.

That's all, peace.