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tldr: Working through the early scenes now. Had to fight with Daz a bit, but all's well. Aiming for an August release for Chapter 10, but I'll have a better estimate by the end of this month.

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I'll take a look! That Ashe update about killed me, so my brain was leaking out of my ear by the end.. :'D Plus, I honestly need to/plan to go through and unify a lot of the various variables, so everything is simplified/streamlined.
I'm a simple man. I see a Mason, i click like.
 
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Absolutely. I think in Ashe's case, pushing her in the alley is basically reading her mind, and that's why it works out; she's already stricken with you and likes to be naughty & kinky. Now, try that with a girl that's still figuring you out, or just a girl with more boundaries... creepy rape bells start going off. You can hear stories from some women where a guy they really, really liked did stuff that they were into in the moment, but when the relationship goes sour because he's toxic or something, they realize after-the-fact that they were giant red flags. I think a lot of the stuff Guy does is basically that, it's just we have the choice of whether we're going to ruin the relationship with toxicity, or remain their prince charming with a wild streak.

So yeah, this game has true LI diversity & complexity. I wish more games were like it.


I can imagine o_O But it's very much appreciated!

I finished my nice guy romance playthrough over the weekend btw, and the sheer amount of Ashe scenes on that date, and on top of that so many poses! Very much enjoyed all the way to the end of this latest chapter as I knew I would :D I'm now 100% sure I will keep to romance or at least corruption on 1st playthroughs, it's my true vibe that's been buried by bad writing I think :LOL:. You're so good at writing it dude, I think that's why I'd convinced myself I hate romance stuff because in other games it's just so... adolescent & shallow I guess. That, and too much vanilla sex. I mean, obviously all VNs are going to lean into male sex fantasies quite a lot, but you've got a really, really nice and grounded balance going with it. :love:
Hey bro maybe you can remember is Mason a virgin? I know he had a boyfriend but I can't remember the whole conversation.
 

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Hey bro maybe you can remember is Mason a virgin? I know he had a boyfriend but I can't remember the whole conversation.
He had a girlfriend. But he basically traded sexual favors for shelter while living in the street. He only mention blowjobs, but he has been beaten some time and maybe he had to do more or got raped at some point. I guess we'll find out.
 
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I can't bring myself to date Ashe, she's super cute but I feel so guilty when I sleep with her then leave to go fuck Risa or Nicki :(
Why not following 2 different paths.


He had a girlfriend. But he basically traded sexual favors for shelter while living in the street. He only mention blowjobs, but he has been beaten some time and maybe he had to do more or got raped at some point. I guess we'll find out.
We don't want to find out. Some things are better left hinted and never told.
 
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You're breaking my heart bro. Mason is in my top tier LI list.
I can't really see Mason as a LI... for me the choice here is to be an asshole and adress Mason as 'she', or being really turned off by using "him". Just not my cup of tea..
 

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There's also the middle ground option, where you can call Mason 'she' during sex, but 'he' at all others times. It's what I chose on my 'corruption' save, even though it doesn't really feel like corruption compared to other routes.

I know there's a darker Mason corruption route, but I couldn't bring myself to go on that path. So I settled for calling him she during sex, and whatever else that will entail potentially.
I just hope the next Mason update gives me a chance to start on Mason's path without accepting the BJ as im curious about Mason since so many like him. But I can't get myself to accept the BJ as I feel im taking advantage of him to much. I know that means missing out on some content like the cat suit text.
 

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damn, is that floor mopped or WUT mason is a real husbando :cool:

btw, I think I just realized that Mason & Viola could be the most perfect adorable couple. they both have a little trouble speaking, Viola w/ english, Mason stuttering; they are both likely bi, but even if Viola is lesbian she will easily find Mason attractive still; in fact, she could find Mason really sexually appealing in sort of the same way a straight/bi guy finds trans women or a gay guy finds trans men; they're both around the same age; they're both quiet & reserved; they're both sexy af

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Hey bro maybe you can remember is Mason a virgin? I know he had a boyfriend but I can't remember the whole conversation.
I think what Machete said :( I don't remember if there was any specific dialogue, but my gut is that he's not
 
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damn, is that floor mopped or WUT mason is a real husbando :cool:

btw, I think I just realized that Mason & Viola could be the most perfect adorable couple. they both have a little trouble speaking, Viola w/ english, Mason stuttering; they are both likely bi, but even if Viola is lesbian she will easily find Mason attractive still; in fact, she could find Mason really sexually appealing in sort of the same way a straight/bi guy finds trans women or a gay guy finds trans men; they're both around the same age; they're both quiet & reserved; they're both sexy af

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I think what Machete said :( I don't remember if there was any specific dialogue, but my gut is that he's not
Honestly I hope he's not a virgin because if he is I would want his first time to be romantic and special. But I don't think Guy would be gentle.
 

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Honestly I hope he's not a virgin because if he is I would want his first time to be romantic and special. But I don't think Guy would be gentle.
The more I hear Joshy go on about Mason and Nikki, the more I want to be evil to them to balance his over simpiness. :devilish: I am the Yang to his Yin. I will balance the light and the dark. lol
 

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I feel like one weird thing with the update is if you turn her down in the motel because you don't want to take advantage of her, she offers sex again later just becaus, unless I missed it which I might of. I feel like there should be maybe a couple lines of dialogue if you don't take advantage in the motel that lead to the sex, because if you turn her down in the motel, why would she offer again like 20 mimutes later, I just think a little dialouge would help the transition to that, because it feels like just do you wanna have sex yes or no. So unless I missed it I think a little extra dialogue can help it feel more and not just do you wanna have sex, even though you turned me down in the motel 20 minutes ago.
 

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I feel like one weird thing with the update is if you turn her down in the motel because you don't want to take advantage of her, she offers sex again later just becaus, unless I missed it which I might of. I feel like there should be maybe a couple lines of dialogue if you don't take advantage in the motel that lead to the sex, because if you turn her down in the motel, why would she offer again like 20 mimutes later, I just think a little dialouge would help the transition to that, because it feels like just do you wanna have sex yes or no. So unless I missed it I think a little extra dialogue can help it feel more and not just do you wanna have sex, even though you turned me down in the motel 20 minutes ago.
If I recall correctly she made some deal or something to fuck the MC. So how I saw it taking her to the motel meant for her to go through with the deal. But if you decline and don't take advantage at least to me felt like she didn't want to have sex then and there and she thanked it for not making her have sex as she didn't want to do it yet. Which in turn made Risa trust the MC a bit more. Then when you are able to have sex with her later it's because how much she trust the MC and he agrees to help her despite all her baggage and issues after her full confession and what she did to the MC to try and get his help. So I think by agreeing she trust him completely and is grateful for everything as she knows the way she went about getting help was wrong and dangerous.

I do agree more dialogue would of been nice but I don't quite think more dialogue was needed either I never felt like sex at her home was just because but sex at the model was just because. If you look at every little thing the MC has done to gain her trust it feels like there is a reason behind it. To me it feels like to have sex in her home is because she trust the MC completely and wants to not because of some deal. That and im pretty sure Risa doesn't care about the consequences for doing so as lets be real with a controlling father and bodyguard having sex in her home isn't ideal. So because she wants to do it in her home where she could face some consequence's to me shows and symbolizes not only trust but a genuine like for the MC not some casual FWB or one night stand type of deal. Tho maybe my interpretation is reading to much into things , but that is how I see it.
 

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The more I hear Joshy go on about Mason and Nikki, the more I want to be evil to them to balance his over simpiness. :devilish: I am the Yang to his Yin. I will balance the light and the dark. lol
It's the same for me whenever joshy wants to share a girl with another dude. The more he mentions it, the more I would like to make that girl watch me fuck another girl... I still have hi hopes to make Nikki watch for example MC and Alex, Ashe to watch MC and Wrench, or most urgently Gabby to watch MC and Brittney.
 

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It's the same for me whenever joshy wants to share a girl with another dude. The more he mentions it, the more I would like to make that girl watch me fuck another girl... I still have hi hopes to make Nikki watch for example MC and Alex, Ashe to watch MC and Wrench, or most urgently Gabby to watch MC and Brittney.
Except that's in games that have that, so I talk about it there. But this isn't a sharing game, so I don't know why you need to bring that up in this thread.
 

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If I recall correctly she made some deal or something to fuck the MC. So how I saw it taking her to the motel meant for her to go through with the deal. But if you decline and don't take advantage at least to me felt like she didn't want to have sex then and there and she thanked it for not making her have sex as she didn't want to do it yet. Which in turn made Risa trust the MC a bit more. Then when you are able to have sex with her later it's because how much she trust the MC and he agrees to help her despite all her baggage and issues after her full confession and what she did to the MC to try and get his help. So I think by agreeing she trust him completely and is grateful for everything as she knows the way she went about getting help was wrong and dangerous.

I do agree more dialogue would of been nice but I don't quite think more dialogue was needed either I never felt like sex at her home was just because but sex at the model was just because. If you look at every little thing the MC has done to gain her trust it feels like there is a reason behind it. To me it feels like to have sex in her home is because she trust the MC completely and wants to not because of some deal. That and im pretty sure Risa doesn't care about the consequences for doing so as lets be real with a controlling father and bodyguard having sex in her home isn't ideal. So because she wants to do it in her home where she could face some consequence's to me shows and symbolizes not only trust but a genuine like for the MC not some casual FWB or one night stand type of deal. Tho maybe my interpretation is reading to much into things , but that is how I see it.
Yeah I can kinda see where you are coming from but it is weird to me if you turn her down in the motel, she just offers again for like no reason just because, in my eyes.

I think something like her mentioning it and saying something like "I know you didn't want to take advantage back there but I actually want to do it now" or " I am starting to like you now do you want to have sex now" or something along those lines, you can change the dialouge however you want I just think mentioning the motel if you turn her down because you didn't want to take advantage would lend better to the scene and the story, but that is just my opinion.
 

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Honestly I hope he's not a virgin because if he is I would want his first time to be romantic and special. But I don't think Guy would be gentle.
Why wouldn't he? 'Cause of his big dick? Or 'cause you're not as nice as you seem in gameplay? ;) I did anal on my Guy's nice playthrough, and he was patient enough (w/ respect to porno logic lol) that the LI enjoyed it, so, I think it would be fine with Mason. Maybe Mason prefers it up his bum, though? I don't know how Mason feels about his pussy.

You know, a lot of details about the girls' past sexual experiences are kind of in the air a little, and I'm sure that's intentional on Neon's part. It's probably w/e you want to imagine honestly. Like, I prefer imagining that Nicki did the porno shoot personally and just doesn't want to talk about it further because I think it's more meaningful to the drama & romance and it doesn't ruin her attractiveness to me. It's also hawt on the corruption/dark routes.

I feel like one weird thing with the update is if you turn her down in the motel because you don't want to take advantage of her, she offers sex again later just becaus, unless I missed it which I might of. I feel like there should be maybe a couple lines of dialogue if you don't take advantage in the motel that lead to the sex, because if you turn her down in the motel, why would she offer again like 20 mimutes later, I just think a little dialouge would help the transition to that, because it feels like just do you wanna have sex yes or no. So unless I missed it I think a little extra dialogue can help it feel more and not just do you wanna have sex, even though you turned me down in the motel 20 minutes ago.
You can refuse a 2nd time at her place too and then she replies "it's just sex daddy" and you can relent and agree to do it there. That works as an acknowledgement on her part imo, like Guy has already more than proven himself to her at that point, and now she fully wants to have sex with him then as Dessolos said. I think it's clear that Risa just doesn't take sex that seriously at all, it's very casual to her.. like a handshake or something lol.

TBH, the hotel option to me felt more like the horny/darker~ choice. You miss out on some sweet characterization and interesting plotting from the lawful waffle route. And you can still fuck her at her place, so it's not like you miss much. I guess you might get more Risa points? I haven't looked at the code much there.

Except that's in games that have that, so I talk about it there. But this isn't a sharing game, so I don't know why you need to bring that up in this thread.
Pfft, sharing is hot if done right honestly. Fuck 'em :cool::p
 
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