The amount of work they put into the fucking DRM is absolutely hilarious. Now we all know why the interactions update took so long.
Unity FurryVNE [2024-11-09] [FurryVNE Team]
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- Nov 20, 2020
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yes they used their time on the wrong part for real i think in a community that is that small better to make something free and get visibility than closing the thing up putting drm that will kill the CC the day the dev doesnt want to finance the backend and also closing the door to all the banned country on patreon
and i bet that the time taken by the drm could be the bug fixes and so more functionality but they made their choice +2000$/month on patreon better than respecting their promise and having a bug free game
- Feb 26, 2022
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i say they just make the app free as its not gonna be much its just yiffalicious but with customization lol
- Aug 10, 2017
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- not that smoll anymore, because interaction come up, and Furries are a powerfull community.
-you don't put food on the table with "visibility" and "free". they have work for less than the minimum for more than 4 years...
Would rather leave my job than getting paid with "visibility"or/and work for free. that's common sense, apply this to you before talking : prefer starving and have a thanks for your hard work ? if yes you are rather lying, or really a cool guy, but cool guy don't live for long without the "generosity" of other.
-that kill nothing, exept your access to the game because you don't want to spend a penny on something that's in alpha even if you enjoy it.
"take too long so i don't pay" "i prefer buying xxx" "won't pay for porn" your choice, won't judge, but don't try to make it as an argument. "Patreon" is one, your assumptions is not.
-"DRM" don't take much time to be in place. you can be pesky all you want about it, but again don't assume things you don't know, it's better for you.
-no game is bug free, even good game like Helldiver 2 have game breaking bug, Furryvne is playable for now, no bug free but you can use it.
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(Holy crap, Fuzzy's back?... I remember when you and Tester were fighting like the Mom and Dad of this forum who just wanted the best for their children...)
(While you recovered from your shoe digestion look at what furry porn has turned us into.... we've devolved into... into... STAND-IN PROGRAMMERS ⚡⚡)
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I want to pay for my game but i dont want to subscribe monthly.
Their drm was probably Time consuming as they roll a zenfullcrom browser with all the custom frontend / backend and not one of the classic plugin for patreon you cant get from unity store
Quick note on the code There multiple instance of different try of the patreon and they settled on zenfullcrom but there is an another one just floating with Poc inside the compiled dll so yeah probably made it in like 2h without any problem and they thinked about the librairie they want to use and made all the research before messing with the code......
And yeah im reading assembler and patching a game but i have no Idea how Dev work and also no fucking Idea of what i'm saying
probably got the game to launch without texture and with some bugs by moving Random bytes until it worked or by hiring Monkey to randomly generate patched assembly
- Aug 10, 2017
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wouldn't say back like i've said in my previous message i'm tired of fighting, mom won son. this is merely a last stand ...
and that was not me for the shoes things !
well that's good you don't deny the rest.I want to pay for my game but i dont want to subscribe monthly.
Their drm was probably Time consuming as they roll a zenfullcrom browser with all the custom frontend / backend and not one of the classic plugin for patreon you cant get from unity store
Quick note on the code There multiple instance of different try of the patreon and they settled on zenfullcrom but there is an another one just floating with Poc inside the compiled dll so yeah probably made it in like 2h without any problem and they thinked about the librairie they want to use and made all the research before messing with the code......
And yeah im reading assembler and patching a game but i have no Idea how Dev work and also no fucking Idea of what i'm saying
effectively 2hours is short, i was more thinking about half a week for short
you misunderstand, well it's mostly my fault : i don't say you don't know how to code&crack, i'm saying since you don't know the behind of the scene and the dev in detail, it's better to not make assumption based just on that.
to popularize/image that : Know how to cook doesn't mean you know how to work in a restaurant, and it doesn't make you a pro cook ready to serve 20 ppl per hour. You can judge the cooking, the cleanliness of the place, the price because you can compare with your own knowledge and the similar restaurants you visit, but you can't just assume the cook spend half of his time smoking and not working.
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And the worst part of this games that end up with denuvo etc , then you play them with average PC not a streamer rich wannabe gamer pc that costs 6k , and because of the DRM the performance of the actual product ends in Stuttering , FPS lost and crashes , but yet ppl still pay for them like idiots xD.
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Yes but they fixed a problem i got their cookie got malformed for some reason and started to Grow like crazy and the game doesnt check for cookie size the result is a failed login or a game crash at some point
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Oh shit you are back!
I was starting to worry that you arent here when the juicy bit has finally dropped!
Anyway, im a man of my word and i owe you an apology for saying that interaction build is just a never-coming bait for this cashgrab scam, it dropped and you were right on it.
- May 30, 2017
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Can we just stop and think that there is no one bad here?
What have been the problem here, for all of us, or mainly the most part, have been waiting the game for YEARS, and then the surprise was that we can´t enjoy it. That was a shit, mess, dissapointment or whatever you want to call it, but that´s all.
You can´t blame them for protecting their game! In what world you live?
I have enjoyed yiffalicous, I have enjoyed the character creator and never spent one dolar (or in my case euro) on their project. I have lucky and worked a long time, so when I saw that the game was cracked, I got access to the build. I understand that many of you don´t have money, or more important, A CREDIT CARD TO BUY IT, but is ok, I was in the same situation.
That means that I am going to subscribe every month? No, most likely only one more time this year when progresses if there have been no way to pirate it and it´s ok! It´s normal not want to pay for a proyect who is far way to finish. I appreciate the people who is working to let us to play the game, for people like us.
But for are the people who is saying that "they are milking", "their time spent to crack", "paying for a pre alpha", "spent the money on better things", "spend money every moth" and things like that, please, as I said, it has been the dissapointment to discover that we had to wait more. You can say whatever you want, but I am sure if it had not been´t cracked, you would not paid anything anyway, so please, stop arguing and blaming the creator.
They have taken too much time in release the game? Of course, they could have given people more updates or a little demostration. They could have advertised the proyect better? Absolutely, they have been losing money over the years and saying that the proyect was in crisis. I can agree that they have done things bad, but protecting their game? For people like us? Who is always criticizing them? Really?
Even if it was not cracked, if it weren't for the good people who share it here, we would be unable to play the game.
What have been the problem here, for all of us, or mainly the most part, have been waiting the game for YEARS, and then the surprise was that we can´t enjoy it. That was a shit, mess, dissapointment or whatever you want to call it, but that´s all.
You can´t blame them for protecting their game! In what world you live?
I have enjoyed yiffalicous, I have enjoyed the character creator and never spent one dolar (or in my case euro) on their project. I have lucky and worked a long time, so when I saw that the game was cracked, I got access to the build. I understand that many of you don´t have money, or more important, A CREDIT CARD TO BUY IT, but is ok, I was in the same situation.
That means that I am going to subscribe every month? No, most likely only one more time this year when progresses if there have been no way to pirate it and it´s ok! It´s normal not want to pay for a proyect who is far way to finish. I appreciate the people who is working to let us to play the game, for people like us.
But for are the people who is saying that "they are milking", "their time spent to crack", "paying for a pre alpha", "spent the money on better things", "spend money every moth" and things like that, please, as I said, it has been the dissapointment to discover that we had to wait more. You can say whatever you want, but I am sure if it had not been´t cracked, you would not paid anything anyway, so please, stop arguing and blaming the creator.
They have taken too much time in release the game? Of course, they could have given people more updates or a little demostration. They could have advertised the proyect better? Absolutely, they have been losing money over the years and saying that the proyect was in crisis. I can agree that they have done things bad, but protecting their game? For people like us? Who is always criticizing them? Really?
Even if it was not cracked, if it weren't for the good people who share it here, we would be unable to play the game.
I honestly think they made the biggest mistake putting DRM behind the game, Patreon is already paywall system but soft one, imagine if Patreon would make something similar? Peeps simply break the whole website in response. There are plenty of websites that grabbing Patreon posts and allows anybody to view it and download any content inside locked posts.
I believe Patreon well-informed about that, but surely they won't do anything about it, because you need that small hole to release steam from somewhere.
But when CCs puts their DRM inside their product and people simply cannot even test it, It's quite the opposite effect.
"I want to pirate this game" -> "Wow, this game is cool" -> "I will buy this game because developers did great game"
VS
"I want to pirate this game" -> "I can't pirate this game" -> "Devs are assholes" -> "I will wait for crack and never buy the game"
Forcing you to buy the product and not letting even have first test has negative and repulsive effect for future and current players.
Statistically leaked games attracting more people, and with word-of-mouth everybody advertising it further and further, so I guess many developers should thank pirate bay in first place.
Want some local examples?
Hotel Elera/Project Elera - At first dude was incredibly greedy, he made similar DRM system for his previous (Not Elera) game, where it's scene based (There were 3 scenes for free and the rest is locked behind paywall), also constant checks whether you're logged in Patreon or not.
It was $700 at best times.
The author was mocked several times here and on e621.
Rebranded Hotel Elera/Project Elera - cheap knock-off Heat:The game, weird character models, similar interactions and the game... is completely free, by donating you're getting additional cosmetics. And everybody liked it.
According to Graphtreon Project Elera makes around $3.5-5k
One more time, this game is completely paywall free.
I'm not saying everybody should make their products completely public, but this is rare and outstanding example of "How this game is free? It deserved my money"
Of course paywalled products like Rack 2, Wild Life, Heat, Hunt & Snare - are easy to launch/cracked in matter of days.
And word-of-mouth genuinely helped those titles to gain traction and definitely not known because of worst DRMs.
So think yourself, will it gain more traction because "Wow, this game is cool", or because "I will wait for crack and never buy the game"
I believe Patreon well-informed about that, but surely they won't do anything about it, because you need that small hole to release steam from somewhere.
But when CCs puts their DRM inside their product and people simply cannot even test it, It's quite the opposite effect.
"I want to pirate this game" -> "Wow, this game is cool" -> "I will buy this game because developers did great game"
VS
"I want to pirate this game" -> "I can't pirate this game" -> "Devs are assholes" -> "I will wait for crack and never buy the game"
Forcing you to buy the product and not letting even have first test has negative and repulsive effect for future and current players.
Statistically leaked games attracting more people, and with word-of-mouth everybody advertising it further and further, so I guess many developers should thank pirate bay in first place.
Want some local examples?
Hotel Elera/Project Elera - At first dude was incredibly greedy, he made similar DRM system for his previous (Not Elera) game, where it's scene based (There were 3 scenes for free and the rest is locked behind paywall), also constant checks whether you're logged in Patreon or not.
It was $700 at best times.
The author was mocked several times here and on e621.
Rebranded Hotel Elera/Project Elera - cheap knock-off Heat:The game, weird character models, similar interactions and the game... is completely free, by donating you're getting additional cosmetics. And everybody liked it.
According to Graphtreon Project Elera makes around $3.5-5k
One more time, this game is completely paywall free.
I'm not saying everybody should make their products completely public, but this is rare and outstanding example of "How this game is free? It deserved my money"
Of course paywalled products like Rack 2, Wild Life, Heat, Hunt & Snare - are easy to launch/cracked in matter of days.
And word-of-mouth genuinely helped those titles to gain traction and definitely not known because of worst DRMs.
So think yourself, will it gain more traction because "Wow, this game is cool", or because "I will wait for crack and never buy the game"
Look, the main thing is not about "We are poor and not paying for pre-alpha", It's all about presentation - Devs showed large sign of greediness and everybody noticed it. You can't fight with human psychology, what breaks first impression, breaks overall appearance completely and the rest is just principle.
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I don't think that Patreon's logic is to "have a small hole to release steam". This is more like a 'Streisand effect', because not all of the people who know about Patreon existence, know about kemono.party or etc., and a lot of people keep thinking that you can't avoid paying for stuff. So if you are making additional restrictions, you will just give more popularity to the pirate sites.
- Jun 4, 2019
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"subscribe every month"
Guys please this is not a fucking world of warcraft subscription base thing. Read, it has been explained
Guys please this is not a fucking world of warcraft subscription base thing. Read, it has been explained
The so-called "Streisand effect" is very short term occurrence, It happens once until people reach specific goal, or battle continues to the end. Well known titles, like mentioned before are not even required to enter Patreon website, said pirated games already shown in first Google page.
Unknown or low popular games/apps are not popular, well, for a reason.
I've pirated Hunt and Snare and decided that it's good enough to warrant supporting the dev. I've no fucking clue if YL2's interaction system does. It's not rocket surgery so stop playing white knights, buy the game and fuck off, sit tight and wait for a crack, or help. Personally I'm going to do the second thing, unless something comes up where my limited knowledge becomes useful.
- Nov 20, 2020
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if you have an account i need the %appadata%/furryVNE folder or an account and the last game files
Yeah but if their backend go down the you buyed your version is not a thing as if you loose the cookie saved in a folder and probably some other files on you computer he will need to log back to their backend to make a new copy of this cookie so not exactly a buy more like a rent until services go down
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