VN Others Completed Futa Fix Dick Dine and Dash [v12964882] [Cyberframe Studios]

[schokakoala]

if only the admin would just split up futa tag into "futa" and "full package futa/trans" tag then no one would be offended. It's like going to pornhub and have the setting to block out the gay stuff and they still show it to you.

I think they should separate futa/trans to 2 separate tags before they split that up. I don't have an issue with balls or no balls on a futa. I do have an issue with the futa tag on a game just being a man.

 

[LeakCode]

I think they should separate futa/trans to 2 separate tags before they split that up. I don't have an issue with balls or no balls on a futa. I do have an issue with the futa tag on a game just being a man.

when there are testicles , they are male. Testicles = no ovaries + only testoesterone. No testicles = estrogen

 

[Kii-tan]

when there are testicles , they are male. Testicles = no ovaries + only testoesterone. No testicles = estrogen

You do realize full package futa have both balls and vagina/ovaries, right? The balls don't matter, what matters is if they have a vagina or not. Dick with balls + vagina is full package futa, dick with no balls + vagina is normal futa, dick with balls but no vagina is trans or shemale.
Having balls is fine, as long as they also have a vagina.

 

[schokakoala]

when there are testicles , they are male. Testicles = no ovaries + only testoesterone. No testicles = estrogen

I think there's a big difference between a femboy and a futa. I get that traditionally futa = no balls, dick and pussy. But femboys/trans characters never have tits and always have male features (save for a cock, which obviously is a male feature, but it's fine in my eyes as long as it's futa and not just a man's cock). Futa balls or futa without balls is great. Plus they have the hips and face of a woman. "Full package Futa" is still a futa with added balls. It's not a man with tits.

 

[LeakCode]

You do realize full package futa have both balls and vagina/ovaries, right? The balls don't matter, what matters is if they have a vagina or not. Dick with balls + vagina is full package futa, dick with no balls + vagina is normal futa, dick with balls but no vagina is trans or shemale.
Having balls is fine, as long as they also have a vagina.

No they don't. That's how intersex works. In intersex people, you get 1 of sexual organs of two sexes. Labia and scrotum are counterparts of female and male. Same with (Ovaries and testicles), (Skene gland + other female glands and prostate glands), etc. "True Hermaphrodites", called "Ovotesticular syndrome" these days are chimera. Similar to chimera with two different eye colours, they don't get 4 eyes, they get 1 eye of each gene. People with 4 eyes 4 arms, 4 legs are conjoined twins not chimera. Extra finger is a different matter because we get 5 fingers on each hand and sometimes gene can mess up.

The reason for the name change from "True Hermaphrodites" to "Ovotesticular syndrome" is because they actually can't have full functionality of both sexes like I mentioned. They either get ovaries or testicles, penis or clit. They can only have counterparts of male sexual organ cells and female organ cells. Not both. Ovo just means female sexual organ cells, testicular just means male sexual organ cells. And they have a mixture of cells from both sexes.

Besides, the most important point is that full package ones don't look different from trans. At least that's how they are protrayed in the media at the moment, which is actually anatomically incorrect.

I think there's a big difference between a femboy and a futa. I get that traditionally futa = no balls, dick and pussy. But femboys/trans characters never have tits and always have male features (save for a cock, which obviously is a male feature, but it's fine in my eyes as long as it's futa and not just a man's cock). Futa balls or futa without balls is great. Plus they have the hips and face of a woman. "Full package Futa" is still a futa with added balls. It's not a man with tits.

Not my point. The point is the sex of a person depends on the sex hormone and sexual functionality of their organs. In futa without balls, they clearly have ovaries. In real life, those people may be able to bear children. That's why they are females. In intersex people with testicles, they 100% can't bear chidlren. it's that simple.

 

[Kii-tan]

No they don't. That's how intersex works. In intersex people, you get 1 of sexual organs of two sexes. Labia and scrotum are counterparts of female and male. Same with (Ovaries and testicles), (Skene gland + other female glands and prostate glands), etc. "True Hermaphrodites", called "Ovotesticular syndrome" these days are chimera. Similar to chimera with two different eye colours, they don't get 4 eyes, they get 1 eye of each gene. People with 4 eyes 4 arms, 4 legs are conjoined twins not chimera. Extra finger is a different matter because we get 5 fingers on each hand and sometimes gene can mess up.

The reason for the name change from "True Hermaphrodites" to "Ovotesticular syndrome" is because they actually can't have full functionality of both sexes like I mentioned. They either get ovaries or testicles, penis or clit. They can only have counterparts of male sexual organ cells and female organ cells. Not both. Ovo just means female sexual organ cells, testicular just means male sexual organ cells. And they have a mixture of cells from both sexes.

Besides, the most important point is that full package ones don't look different from trans. At least that's how they are protrayed in the media at the moment, which is actually anatomically incorrect.




Not my point. The point is the sex of a person depends on the sex hormone and sexual functionality of their organs. In futa without balls, they clearly have ovaries. In real life, those people may be able to bear children. That's why they are females. In intersex people with testicles, they 100% can't bear chidlren. it's that simple.

Bruh, you're trying to apply real world anatomy and biology to hentai. FUTAS ARE FICTIONAL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE BIOLOGICALLY ACCURATE. There are a plethora of images/doujins/animations that show futa with both set, and even have futas that are capable of both impregnating someone and getting pregnant at the same time. If the artist/animator wants them to have both functioning balls and functioning ovaries, then they can. It's that simple.

 

[LeakCode]

Bruh, you're trying to apply real world anatomy and biology to hentai. FUTAS ARE FICTIONAL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE BIOLOGICALLY ACCURATE. There are a plethora of images/doujins/animations that show futa with both set, and even have futas that are capable of both impregnating someone and getting pregnant at the same time. If the artist/animator wants them to have both functioning balls and functioning ovaries, then they can. It's that simple.

Why don't you draw all humans as monsters and say they are humans then? they are fictional. bruh
A drawing is meant to reflect what's known by us. You can be a bit creative but what you can't see, you infer by logic. That intuition that when you see testicles, you know ovaries and vagina are not there is automatic. There is this saying "you can't unsee that". Because I have that knowledge, when I see testicles, I see a male, do you not understand that?

And did you just miss the last bit? They look flipping no different from trans when they have testciles. It's that simple. Do you want to see a real life "futanari" with open hole and testicles? They look nothing like trans I assure you

 

[leechurch]

when i click on extras (after having finished the game) the screens are all blank

 

[jclosed]

Why don't you draw all humans as monsters and say they are humans then? they are fictional. bruh
A drawing is meant to reflect what's known by us. You can be a bit creative but what you can't see, you infer by logic. That intuition that when you see testicles, you know ovaries and vagina are not there is automatic. There is this saying "you can't unsee that". Because I have that knowledge, when I see testicles, I see a male, do you not understand that?

And did you just miss the last bit? They look flipping no different from trans when they have testciles. It's that simple. Do you want to see a real life "futanari" with open hole and testicles? They look nothing like trans I assure you

Sorry - But you really have a problem separating fact from fiction. Your interpenetration is yours only, and in this case it's your problem. Other people just enjoy this VN without connecting it to anything in real life. That's the whole purpose of fiction, and Hentai is pure fiction. Nothing of it is real or even remotely connected to realism. That's how creativity and the creative mind works.

So, while you are entitled to your opinion, do not expect other people to follow you in that mindset, or get upset because they just don't care. As said - People enjoy the VN fully knowing it just fiction, and the last thing they will do is spoiling the fun by connecting anything in this VN to real life. No offence , but if you really have read this VN to the very end and still do not see it's al fully pure fiction that's nowhere grounded in reality (and goes completely bunkers at that), than I don't know what to say.

 

[LeakCode]

So, while you are entitled to your opinion, do not expect other people to follow you in that mindset, or get upset because they just don't care. As said - People enjoy the VN fully knowing it just fiction, and the last thing they will do is spoiling the fun by connecting anything in this VN to real life. No offence , but if you really have read this VN to the very end and still do not see it's al fully pure fiction that's nowhere grounded in reality (and goes completely bunkers at that), than I don't know what to say.

I do not know why you are so deadset in arguing that it's fiction therefore people don't care. The point to split out the tags is so things that look the same are grouped together while the things that don't look the same aren't grouped together. So that people who are offended by one thing is not gonna be shown that thing when they are looking for something the opposite.

It's a fact that trans and full packaged futanari at the current moment look exactly the same, therefore, they should be in the same tag. While those without testicles look different and should be in a different tag.

When you argue it's fiction, so we could all it whatever we want. Sorry but no that's not how it works. Like you don't call a drawing of a tiger a lion just because you "can". When people ask for a drawing of tiger and then you draw them a lion for them, they are gonna get angry at you even if you argue it's fiction.

It's also a fact that people do care and have been asking for the tags to be split out. And also because all the logical arguments I said are facts, there are bound to be people with the same mindset as I do. The only problem is here with people like you who think that because it's already this way and you think people don't care, so you just ignore people who have been asking for things to change.

 

[Kii-tan]

It's a fact that trans and full packaged futanari at the current moment look exactly the same, therefore, they should be in the same tag. While those without testicles look different and should be in a different tag.

No it's not, this is not a fact. Full packaged futa means they have a dick, balls, and a vagina, they have all 3. Trans women don't have vaginas, that is the difference. You can go to literally any image site that uses the full package futa tag and see that they have all 3. The vast majority of people that use that tag use it to mean a futa with dick, balls and vagina.

Look, I 100% agree that futa and trans should be split into two separate tags on this site, and I guarantee you that most, if not all, of the people on this thread and the ones replying to you also agree with this. What we don't agree on is what you think full package futa is. Full package futa IS futa, because it has both dick and vagina, it just also happens to have balls. It is NOT trans. If you think it should be it's own tag separate from both futa and trans, then that's valid, unlikely but valid. However it should not be lumped together with the trans tag over the futa tag.

 

[LeakCode]

No it's not, this is not a fact. Full packaged futa means they have a dick, balls, and a vagina, they have all 3. Trans women don't have vaginas, that is the difference. You can go to literally any image site that uses the full package futa tag and see that they have all 3. The vast majority of people that use that tag use it to mean a futa with dick, balls and vagina.

You can't see vagina 99% of the time. It's that simple. Do you see vagina? Listed as futanari here. Doesn't look any different from trans, does it?

This is not a one off. Want another example?


See, no vagina.
Now, want to see how hermaphrodite is supposed to look with testicles?

See, hole not covered becaues there is no scrotum, there is only labia, albeit bulged. The same logic applies to testicles and ovaries. Only 1 pair of those can exist.

Look, I 100% agree that futa and trans should be split into two separate tags on this site, and I guarantee you that most, if not all, of the people on this thread and the ones replying to you also agree with this. What we don't agree on is what you think full package futa is. Full package futa IS futa, because it has both dick and vagina

I didn't say full package futa is not futa. I said because full package futa are portrayed with same appearance as trans, they should be grouped with trans. So we have balless futa as one tag. full-packaged futa/trans as another tag. No more problem there.

The only thing I said was those without testicles are female and those with testicles are male.

 

[Kii-tan]

You can't see vagina 99% of the time. It's that simple. Do you see vagina? Listed as futanari here. Doesn't look any different from trans, does it?
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This is not a one off. Want another example?
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See, no vagina.

No shit you can't see the vagina, BECAUSE THEY'RE HIDDEN BEHIND THE BALLS. Just because they're blocked from view by the balls doesn't mean it's not there. You can't see their assholes either, are you going to say they don't have them? I'm going to say this one last time, FULL PACKAGE FUTA HAVE DICK, BALLS, AND VAGINA, THEY HAVE ALL 3. There are some "futa" that only have dick and balls with no vagina, BUT THOSE ARE NOT FULL PACKAGE FUTA. Some sites will use the tag shemale specifically for those to differentiate them. And for fucks sake, did you even bother to open up and look through those examples of yours? Because I did, and in all but one of them the futa also had a vagina. And you know what, the one that didn't have a vagina used the shemale tag.

I didn't say full package futa is not futa. I said because full package futa are portrayed with same appearance as trans, they should be grouped with trans. So we have balless futa as one tag. full-packaged futa/trans as another tag. No more problem there.

The only thing I said was those without testicles are female and those with testicles are male.

Look, I don't think we need to argue here. I even agree that futa without vagina are closer to trans, I don't even really consider them actual futa. I just want you to understand that futa can have both balls and vagina/ovaries, that's what full package is, that's what the majority of people use that term for, and you're using that term incorrectly. You keep bringing up real life hermaphrodites, and while it's true that futa are based on them, that doesn't mean they have to be 1:1 or 100% accurate. Hell, most things in fiction are usually taken from real life and then altered in some way. Here are some examples of full package futa, that clearly show them having both balls and vaginas/ovaries.


If you still think you're right, then whatever, clearly I won't be able to change your mind. I'm done with this argument and want this thread to go back to talking about the game.

 

[LeakCode]

I don't even know why you'd care that trans and full-packaged futanari are grouped together with balless ones separated. Seems like you're into both trans and full-packaged futanari. We on the other hand don't like them and would just like them split from the balless ones. Or you're just evil and don't want people to be happy. <- put this on the very top because you can't seem to read.

You can't see their assholes either, are you going to say they don't have them?

There are some "futa" that only have dick and balls with no vagina,

Bruh, I think you just lost me here. No they are not futa, they are called shemales or trans.
Futa are hermaphrodites, or nowadays called ovo-testicular syndrome. They must have vagina and penis.

Here is an example link that says you're wrong. Not even said by me. He is just replying to another guy with the same point as you.
https://f95zone.to/threads/futanari...is-medicine-v1-03-kagurado.49537/post-3280367
And another one
https://f95zone.to/threads/realistic-futa-memory-match-v1-6-0-rowing-studios.256826/post-17123611

I just want you to understand that futa can have both balls and vagina/ovaries, that's what full package is, that's what the majority of people use that term for, and you're using that term incorrectly.

You are literally on the thread where the ones shown have no testicles are you still call me wrong and say futa must have testicles. Sorry to burst your bubble but futa must have a vagina, even though they may have testicles. And female futa are the ones without testicles while male ones are the ones with testicles and they are also called full-packaged futanari. And those without a vagina are not futa, they are shemales and trans.

And even after I showed you the real life hermaphrodites with testicles and you still refuse to acknowledge how hermaphrodites with testicles are supposed to look (vagina not hidden behind balls) and that all the full-packaged futanari are drawn wrong. Shame on that stubborn you.

Full-packaged futanari are not supposed to visually look similar shemales but because people have only seen shemales they think they look like shemales. Shake my head.

And no, the majority of the people started out with balless futa. No testciles, just vagina, penis and ovaries.

Full-package futanari is a thing developed from the original futanari. You really need to go back to the 90s and see what the majortiy looked like back then.

Nowadays there is just a bunch of trans wannabe futa want to self insert and say they are futa.

And your screenshots mean nothing. You completely missed the point that 99% of the time they look like shemales which are technically male, which is why it looks gay.

This opnion is not just from me. Example:
https://f95zone.to/threads/futanari...on-v1-1-pernios-futanari.155531/post-10739228


All in all, full-packaged futanari and trans as it currently stands should just be lumped into the same category while those futanari without testicles like the ones in this game should just be a separate category.

Just to summarise for you once again:
1. full-packaged futanari look the same as trans 99% of the time and they both have testicles + penis so they just look like males
2. futanari without testicles look nothing like full-packaged futanari from the front
3. futanari without testicles 100% have no testicles meaning they are 100% not male and look completely feminine

If you still can't see why, I have nothing more to say. You must be living in your own world. I don't even know why you'd care that trans and full-packaged futanari are grouped together with balless ones separated. Seems like you're into both trans and full-packaged futanari. Or you're just evil and don't want people to be happy.

If you still think you're right, then whatever, clearly I won't be able to change your mind. I'm done with this argument and want this thread to go back to talking about the game.

It isn't me who think I'm right but Wikipedia, other people, and hentai from the 90s say you are 100% wrong. I don't think. I just see.

 

[Kii-tan]

I am speechless how you could misread/misinterpret literally everything that I have said. Guys, I think this might be PirateSoftware's alt account or something, cause who else could utterly misrepresent something that badly and still claim they're right. Anyways I don't care anymore, have a good day.

 

[oldspeak]

You can always rely on futa tag/category to get the most discourse between members with their own 50pgs thesis following it.
And here I'm just fapping to solid futa like a common man.

 

[jclosed]

You can always rely on futa tag/category to get the most discourse between members with their own 50pgs thesis following it.
And here I'm just fapping to solid futa like a common man.

Yeah - I really don't get why people are so worked up about a VN that clearly is just a fun Futa game. All the key people in it are clearly Futa, and that's that. And to go as far as bombarding this threat with pictures and text that have absolutely nothing to do with the VN itself is, frankly, disturbing...

Anyway - It's a fun VN, but I was not really happy with the ending when I got through it a fair while ago. I don't know if that ending is still the same or changes have been made. Maybe time to re-read it again?

 

[LeakCode]

I am speechless how you could misread/misinterpret literally everything that I have said. Guys, I think this might be PirateSoftware's alt account or something, cause who else could utterly misrepresent something that badly and still claim they're right. Anyways I don't care anymore, have a good day.

Right back at you. You completely failed to argue anything (like for example, when you replied to my comment about full-package futa being male you instead completely derail the debate and go about what are futa instead) and you still dare to say that. I literally posted a meme about a point flying over your head and you refuse to ask question about why and not try to understand and instead make it now personal.

We all know, when people make things personal, that's how they lose an argument.

You can always rely on futa tag/category to get the most discourse between members with their own 50pgs thesis following it.
And here I'm just fapping to solid futa like a common man.

Ask the mod why they keep refusing to split the tag so that things that look completely different are not separated.

Yeah - I really don't get why people are so worked up

Somebody started with the why no balls debate. which is why we answered them. Not getting worked up but they want full understanding, I will give them.

 

[Kii-tan]

Yeah - I really don't get why people are so worked up about a VN that clearly is just a fun Futa game. All the key people in it are clearly Futa, and that's that. And to go as far as bombarding this threat with pictures and text that have absolutely nothing to do with the VN itself is, frankly, disturbing...

Anyway - It's a fun VN, but I was not really happy with the ending when I got through it a fair while ago. I don't know if that ending is still the same or changes have been made. Maybe time to re-read it again?

I didn't mean for it to turn into such a pointless argument, but unfortunately that's how it turned out. I just couldn't help respond when someone is just so blatantly wrong. I don't know how, but someone should get the mods to just purge these recent comments since they contribute nothing to the actual thread.

 

[Ramen Rena]

ANYWAYS, back on topic; is there any word on if we are going to get a sequel to this game?