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You are the only one doing a "overanalization" here.
They are defined as futa, a third sex in this game's world by themselves, by males and by females. It is the game's lore, it should take precedence over out of game definitions.
 

ssj782

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You are the only one doing a "overanalization" here.
They are defined as futa, a third sex in this game's world by themselves, by males and by females. It is the game's lore, it should take precedence over out of game definitions.
Facts are facts. Using an already existing word (for at minimum several decades, since I can find the term 'futanari' used in hentai all the way back in the late 80's and early 90's) and defining it differently doesn't change the word. They're, by definition, dickgirls. Futanari isn't exactly a broad term like 'mutant', lol. It's an incredibly specific one.
If facts and definitions bug you so much, don't reply, lol.
 

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Nah. The story says that futa still breed with women. Though with how 'advanced' their tech is in the church arc, it wouldn't surprise me if the two daughters were test tube babies with how clinical and cold the mother is.
Which makes me wonder who the female parent of Rye is, if there is one. Could have just been a paid surrogate, for all we know.
The game lore states that Renée is Rye's and Renata's "mother" and they have a male "father"... ok, of course we can try to look for all sorts of unconventional explanations here... but, personally, I much prefer the hypothesis that the futa actually have a vagina and functional uterus.

Define a fish as a boar as many times as you want, but that still doesn't give them four legs and bristles.
Futa/futanari is a Japanese term for an actual hermaphrodite with both male and female primary sexual characteristics.
And a dickgirl was a female born with only a penis.
It's straight up fact, no 'overanalization' required.
There are many definitions of those terms... I personally prefer the following:

Futanari - a person with both primary and secondary sexual characteristics of a female who also has a phallic organ (which may or may not be a functional male reproductive organ)

Dickgirl - a person with secondary sexual characteristics of a female and a phallic organ (who may or may not possess functional reproductive organs of either sex)

Shemale/T-girl - biological male with secondary sexual characteristics of a female.
 

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The game lore states that Renée is Rye's and Renata's "mother" and they have a male "father"... ok, of course we can try to look for all sorts of unconventional explanations here... but, personally, I much prefer the hypothesis that the futa actually have a vagina and functional uterus.



There are many definitions of those terms... I personally prefer the following:

Futanari - a person with both primary and secondary sexual characteristics of a female who also has a phallic organ (which may or may not be a functional male reproductive organ)

Dickgirl - a person with secondary sexual characteristics of a female and a phallic organ (who may or may not possess functional reproductive organs of either sex)

Shemale/T-girl - biological male with secondary sexual characteristics of a female.
" Futanari - a person with both primary and secondary sexual characteristics of a female who also has a phallic organ (which may or may not be a functional male reproductive organ) "
You do realize that the 'primary' female sexual characteristic is a vagina, correct?

Go look at the scene where the mc has a threesome with Claudia and whatever the goofy name Demetria was using, and you can see that they have no vagina.
I've already deleted my futadom folder, so I can't just link it myself. But here's one from OEJ's scene mod:
https://attachments.f95zone.to/2020/05/683299_1590356364454.png
You can see that in the bottom left, Cladia has no vagina. And in the bottom right, that Demetria doesn't, either.
Pretty sure the 'fail' scene from the front area gym job also shows that the dumb girl (can't remember her name right now) that's always with Draga is also lacking a vagina.
So no vaginas on these dickgirls.
 
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" Futanari - a person with both primary and secondary sexual characteristics of a female who also has a phallic organ (which may or may not be a functional male reproductive organ) "
You do realize that the 'primary' female sexual characteristic is a vagina, correct?
Generally speaking, 'primary' female sexual characteristic are ovaries. Vagina and uterus are specific to placental mammals and marsupials - other animals (even monotremes who are still considered mammals) do not have those. Whether modified oviducts of the marsupials where embryo is gestated may actually be considered an "uterus" is also a matter of debate.

Go look at the scene where the mc has a threesome with Claudia and whatever the goofy name Demetria was using, and you can see that they have no vagina.
I've already deleted my futadom folder, so I can't just link it myself. But here's one from OEJ's scene mod:
https://attachments.f95zone.to/2020/05/683299_1590356364454.png
You can see that in the bottom left, Cladia has no vagina. And in the bottom right, that Demetria doesn't, either.
Pretty sure the 'fail' scene from the front area gym job also shows that the dumb girl (can't remember her name right now) that's always with Draga is also lacking a vagina.
So no vaginas on these dickgirls.
Yeah, I remember that scene... that's why I said there is a contradiction between Rye/Renée and Claudia/Demetria plotlines. Obviously, it would be up to the authors to resolve this controversy in the game canon. While there are several possible solutions to this, I would personally strongly prefer the hypothesis where Claudia/Demetria version would be considered a "fuck-up" and Rye/Renée version would be established as canon.
 
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Yeah, I remember that scene... that's why I said there is a contradiction between Rye/Renée and Claudia/Demetria plotlines. Obviously, it would be up to the authors to resolve this controversy in the game canon. While there are several possible solutions to this, I would personally strongly prefer the hypothesis where Claudia/Demetria version would be considered a "fuck-up" and Rye/Renée version would be established as canon.
So all three characters/scenes that show no vagina would be a 'fuck up', but a single sentence would be canon? That doesn't really add up, lol.
Besides. A 'dad' isn't necessarily the sperm donor. I'm proof. Never met my sperm donor, but had two men I called 'dad' through my life. And one of those I even meant.
I'd like to see Rae's father healthy, though. Just to see if they look anything like him. Because I can definitely see the mother in both daughters.

Here's one major issue with your theory:
Women are actual citizens in their society. If the 'futa' could carry children, women would be worth even less than the men are. There's no way they would be treated remotely like equals the way we've seen Suni's 'wife' be treated.
 
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Facts are facts. Using an already existing word (for at minimum several decades, since I can find the term 'futanari' used in hentai all the way back in the late 80's and early 90's) and defining it differently doesn't change the word. They're, by definition, dickgirls. Futanari isn't exactly a broad term like 'mutant', lol. It's an incredibly specific one.
If facts and definitions bug you so much, don't reply, lol.
Bug me? :LOL::LOL::LOL:
I am not the one making a tempest in a teacup just because the game developers decided to use a term you don't agree with inside their story. :FacePalm:
 
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ssj782

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Bug me? :LOL::LOL::LOL:
I am not the one making a tempest in a teacup just because the game developers decided to use a term you don't agree with inside their story. :FacePalm:
So your argument is the factless 'because they said so'?
Yeesh.
If you use an existing term incorrectly, it is still incorrect regardless of what is claimed.
 

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So your argument is the factless 'because they said so'?
Yeesh.
If you use an existing term incorrectly, it is still incorrect regardless of what is claimed.
"Facts". You keep using that word but i don't think you know what it means in this context.

So here is a actual fact for you: in a living language words and their meaning change with the passing of time.
So even if in japanese porn it meant something when the term was appropriated by western XXX games it started changing. This is not the only game to use the term in a interchangeable form with transgender or dickgirl. And i doubt it will be the last one no matter how much you scream "facts".
 
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Define a fish as a boar as many times as you want, but that still doesn't give them four legs and bristles.
Futa/futanari is a Japanese term for an actual hermaphrodite with both male and female primary sexual characteristics.
And a dickgirl was a female born with only a penis.
It's straight up fact, no 'overanalization' required.

So until we see that these 'futa' have vaginas (which we've never seen any kind of proof of, since we've seen pretty explicitly that they don't), they aren't futa. 1+1=2, no matter how much they claim it equals something different. Claudia's story shows quite clearly that Demetria only has an anus under her balls.
Words change. Language works that way. Get a grip. xD
 

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You all should read the original Futadom World Lore written by Xalimata. In chapter 1 to 3 , they have covered the source to the domination history, also they stated that Futas have vaginas and they work, but it's not considered a norm for futas to bear children as due to their tight vagina, child birth is a hassle. They shall breed the women and keep the inferior males as pets to satisty their urges. That is the original lore as they stated earlier. Maybe, it has changed now.
 
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Is this argument finally fucking finished, jaesus you lads are getting as worse as the ToT crowd.
what does ToT mean?

Also, these dumb arguments are just what people do between updates because they're bored. I'm just here to check for new updates and jerk off. Sometimes talk about the game itself, but quibbling over whether futa's have to have vaginas is the least of my concerns.

It's obvious that looking like a woman and having a dick are the important parts of what draws people to futa/dickgirl/trans erotica. Balls/no balls, vagina/no vagina is secondary concern so why are people getting mad like it really matters.
 
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People get hung up over terminology for no fucking reason. It doesn't matter what you wanna call them, doesn't change anything. It's a game and we're just here to have a good time. No need to start pointless arguments over what we should call fictional characters.
 
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RC-1138 Boss

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Sorry for my part in it. Got a bit zealous in my defense of something that by definition is always changing. No more arguments from me. :cool:
 

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I found out this morning that Lain is back. Hope they pick FW back up. OEJ did a single update, but then it went 'abandoned'.
 
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