smithsmithsmith

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A harsh lesson will be learned about overdoing content for such an abysmally small budget and the players will win regardless because at the end of the day at least the quality control was top-notch no matter if you bought it or yarr harr'd.
I can't see how this is a negative outside of a raw effort vs financial gain comparison. Yeah sure if you're looking for max profit with as little effort as possible it's better to churn out renpy incest games with daz models or RPGM with base tilesets and recycled assets. If you're looking to make an actual game then it's gonna take time and effort.
 

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I can't see how this is a negative outside of a raw effort vs financial gain comparison. Yeah sure if you're looking for max profit with as little effort as possible it's better to churn out renpy incest games with daz models or RPGM with base tilesets and recycled assets. If you're looking to make an actual game then it's gonna take time and effort.
Yep, we want to make the games we want to make, all other costs be damned.

The only exception there is the cost to the players/backers which we do care about, which is why we do do the whole "full refund" thing and "only need to back once to get rewards forever" thing.
 
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limenghan

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I would like to ask a few questions. If my sponsorship amount reaches a certain stage, can I get the full version of the game after it is released on Steam? If so, is this version different from the Steam version, does it come with a level toilet, and can I get additional updates? Does the Steam version of the game or the sponsor version have a cheat option, and if so, is it available early on or must be completed?
 

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I would like to ask a few questions. If my sponsorship amount reaches a certain stage, can I get the full version of the game after it is released on Steam? If so, is this version different from the Steam version, does it come with a level toilet, and can I get additional updates? Does the Steam version of the game or the sponsor version have a cheat option, and if so, is it available early on or must be completed?
Yep, if you do $20 total on Patreon you can get a key on any platform we have the game on.
The version of the game on any platform will be identical across all platforms; the only exception is the console version when we get to that, which will likely have some mild censorship.

That said, the Steam version will be getting constant updates for the first few months (probably every other day on average), and the Itch.io version will too, but most other platforms will not get these updates nearly as frequently because Steam and Itch let us update the game ourselves, which is something the other platforms don't let us do. So other platforms would probably only update every few weeks.

So probably a month or two after release, we'll have updated the game at least 20-30 times with new content/bugfixes/polish/etc.

As far as cheat options, the only way to get cheat codes in-game is to get all 10 achievements in a level, at which point a cheat code will unlock for subsequent playthroughs.

There's no "level select" (assuming you meant that instead of level toilet) because the game is meant for the levels to be played in order, and it checks what you've done in previous levels. So if you suddenly started off on level 3, without the data from levels 1 and 2, the game wouldn't really know what you've done or what to present you with in terms of events that happen.
 
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HentaiWriter

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What does the cheat include? Like God mode infinite life magic or something?
The five current cheat codes (we do plan to add more down the line), are;

- Permanent Max Speed movement
- One-shot enemies (9999 damage per hit)
- "No-clip" mode
- Infinite Mana
- Invincibility
 

HardcoreCuddler

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Yes, it is all voiced. Looking at an estimated 25 hours of voicework, across 93 voice actors and 300+ characters.

The only exceptions are;
- glossary text
- powerup descriptions / other GUI descriptions
- Narrator text
mf's put more effort into voices than others put into the entire fucking game they made...holy mother of my shaved nuts dude
 
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HentaiWriter

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mf's put more effort into voices than others put into the entire fucking game they made...holy mother of my shaved nuts dude
We really, really wanted the player choices to matter and for there to be a lot of differences between each person's playthrough, so we wanted a lot of options.

Probably 75% of the voicework is done, and the rest is quickly getting finished.
 

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mf's put more effort into voices than others put into the entire fucking game they made...holy mother of my shaved nuts dude
I know, right? Triple A games studios could seriously learn a million things or more from this small team. I could really go on a rant here but that would just get my comment deleted so let's leave it at that. I have a feeling the game is getting released in the next couple of days or next Monday.

Pure guesstimation on my part but I want to be optimistic
 
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I know, right? Triple A games studios could seriously learn a million things or more from this small team. I could really go on a rant here but that would just get my comment deleted so let's leave it at that. I have a feeling the game is getting released in the next couple of days or next Monday.

Pure guesstimation on my part but I want to be optimistic
Triple A studios are a shit ton bigger and even more bureucratic these days, thus the games suffer
 

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I know, right? Triple A games studios could seriously learn a million things or more from this small team. I could really go on a rant here but that would just get my comment deleted so let's leave it at that. I have a feeling the game is getting released in the next couple of days or next Monday.

Pure guesstimation on my part but I want to be optimistic
It'll more than likely be mid October, start of November at the very latest, just because it's extremely doubtful we'll get accepted with this current submission since the actual endings to the game aren't actually in game yet (the audio, writing, music, etc. is done, just not actually plugged into the game).

If that is the case, we'll re-submit a week or two from now (when NextFest is over, since they're unlikely to check for new games during it anyways) and then we should be good. The game'll be more complete for it too, so win-win.
 

Spatula22

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Of the text in the game, probably less than 2% is of a sexual nature. Shows with sexual content that are localized into other languages, like Orange is the New Black and Game of Thrones, I would estimate have a similar amount of sexual content in their scripts/events as our game does.
I was kinda expecting this response, but it's still disappointing. Since you've set up the story around a sex deprived populous, with sex robots, where you can get raped in literally every encounter, I'm going to assume you're lowballing that number and the percentage of erotic text is much higher. If the text isn't during a sex scene, set-up for a later potential sexual encounter, or otherwise intended to make me wet (erotic worldbuilding included) then it's probably wasting my time.

And really, it's also been a selling point in almost any game that has it for most of gaming history. Star Ocean 2 had 80+ plus endings, and featured that statistic prominently on advertisements for the game; in modern days, the Stanley Parable is literally just a "multiple endings" simulator and people chart out all the crazy things you have to do to access the most obscure endings.

Both games were commercial successes.

If a game has multiple endings, the player gets more freedom of choice; they can get one ending and call it quits, or they can go for multiple endings. Having only one ending means they only get that one ending, and that's it.
More choices / ways for the player to engage with the game / play it, is a good thing in most people's books.
Yeah, multiple endings is a selling point, but how many games have more than a few endings? Catherine is a similar idea to yours. Story interspersed through gameplay. "Your decisions matter". Only had three endings. That might seem a little disappointing but I also don't think the game would be much better if it had 80. It's the kind of game people will play through multiple times, but most people won't.

I haven't played Star Ocean 2, but it seems "endings" are short scenes and you get multiple on a single playthrough. Advertising it as 80+ endings is a way to try to sound impressive. Advertisers love big numbers, they think they sound cool. Like when devs brag about their 100+ hour games (of daunting filler), or rather than X number of powerups you can mix-and-match, why not say X³ combinations of powerups!?

Each story in Stanley Parable takes between like one and ten minutes. This game is not the same. Stanley Parable works because it is all about choice, and it would not be as popular if each ending required the same core four hours of gameplay. The game only lasts like four hours total.


I bought the game on the promise of competent gameplay and sexy sex scenes. Multiple endings and choices mattering is not a bad thing, I think you've just taken it to the extreme in planning and not been reined in. For where the game is, I think this project has actually been managed well. Progress on some fronts has seemed slow, but you've almost always been able to show progress towards clear goals. But I also think you've spent more money and time on this game than the value returned.

All of this is to say, I am sure I will not be disappointed in the time and money I spend on this game. I don't quite understand the patrons that have been bankrolling you all these years but I hope they're satisfied too. But I expect your next big project (EE or whatever) will be in another ten years so you won't be seeing much more money or interest from me. I'm at least hoping the Faye game doesn't take five years.

I'm not sure what you mean about this; why do you think story is locked behind difficulty selection? There's only normal and easy mode, and playing either one doesn't lock you out of anything story-wise.
"(In the full game however, [Easy Mode] will block access to the true final ending.)"
I'd think that because you thought that. I'd assume this was a very early development idea, but I've not seen you recant the statement, and someone brought it up recently and you didn't correct them.
 

HardcoreCuddler

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Holy shit, Eromancer gets a shit ton of money but still doesnt come close to the amount of content you make
goes to show the progress someone can make if they actually invest the money into the actual game instead of investing into DRM, gatcha shite, multiplayer, or just straight up using it for things completely unrelated with the game
 

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I can't see how this is a negative outside of a raw effort vs financial gain comparison. Yeah sure if you're looking for max profit with as little effort as possible it's better to churn out renpy incest games with daz models or RPGM with base tilesets and recycled assets. If you're looking to make an actual game then it's gonna take time and effort.
just throwing this out there but oki is just trolling i wouldn't take him serous
 

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I was kinda expecting this response, but it's still disappointing. Since you've set up the story around a sex deprived populous, with sex robots, where you can get raped in literally every encounter, I'm going to assume you're lowballing that number and the percentage of erotic text is much higher. If the text isn't during a sex scene, set-up for a later potential sexual encounter, or otherwise intended to make me wet (erotic worldbuilding included) then it's probably wasting my time.
That's fine, but the game was setup with sex to be interwoven through the game's storyline and worldbuilding as *an* aspect of it, not *the* aspect of it.

Doing a game where you have nonstop sex constantly in every scenario is about the same to me as games from the 90s that had nothing but violence and used it as their sole selling point.

So no, I promise I am not lowballing that. You could go the entire game without seeing sex. You could also see lots of sex scenes and events per level, too.

Yeah, multiple endings is a selling point, but how many games have more than a few endings?
Not too many, which is why we wanted to do that. Future Fragments is a game about doing things in games we wanted to see in games because we rarely saw it done and said elements were things we liked in games, but again, were rarely done.

I haven't played Star Ocean 2, but it seems "endings" are short scenes and you get multiple on a single playthrough.
No, it's literally different endings.

is all about choice, and it would not be as popular if each ending required the same core four hours of gameplay.
I think this might be where you're missing the intent and design we have planned.

You can save scum to get the endings, but the game is designed to be a different experience each playthrough, as there are literally a thousand plus cutscene variants. So each playthrough should have different content, etc.

I bought the game on the promise of competent gameplay and sexy sex scenes. Multiple endings and choices mattering is not a bad thing, I think you've just taken it to the extreme in planning and not been reined in.
TBH, we cut out sooooo many things we had planned that I've definitely been reined in, lol. I posted a list a few pages back.

But as far as the choices and endings for this game go, this is the baseline for me. Future games will definitely have more of both.

For where the game is, I think this project has actually been managed well. Progress on some fronts has seemed slow, but you've almost always been able to show progress towards clear goals. But I also think you've spent more money and time on this game than the value returned.
For context, we're at 45k wishlists on Steam alone, so if even only 20% of those convert AND we never get another sale again on any platform, I'll have broken even at a minimum and paid my debt off entirely.

But I expect your next big project (EE or whatever) will be in another ten years so you won't be seeing much more money or interest from me.
Eroding Ego should take far less time than FF both due to experience we've gained on FF, as well as having our own engine now. Also, a lot of the assets are already done for it.

"(In the full game however, [Easy Mode] will block access to the true final ending.)"
This is very old; we changed this out back around 2020 or so I believe. If I still have this up somewhere, let me know and I'll fix it immediately.
 

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Weekly Progress Report #61 for Future Fragments

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Literally nothing notable to report, just still pumping out content/getting stuff in the game!
 
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