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I assume this data is freshly plucked from your ass?
Just so you're cleared up do you know what GIRL stands for? I hope you didn't think I implied there's 90% of girls being orbited by betas playing Second Life & the like, no I clearly meant GIRLs as an acronym. ;)) :) ;)
 

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90% of GIRLs and thirsty betas say otherwise, [...]
Where ?

Because so far you talk a lot but, while your posts turn around game design, your thoughts are mostly random and disorganized ; therefore at the opposite of what game design should be.


And Summertime Saga ... I really wish I could express myself there beyond what other people have told me, [...] Corona forcing everyone at home, a bunch of well placed ads, temporarily being the only western 2D art game among western 3D games [...]
Yeah, of course, a game that was already in Patreon top 3 most supported adult games in late 2017, is popular because the Covid sanitary crisis let people bored at home. And DarkCookie spend millions in ads, this too is a known fact...
Oh, by the way, it also never was the only western 2D art game.


0/10 Trolling is a art, while you don't even reach the level of talent that a parent can find when changing his baby diaper.
 
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Where ?

Because so far you talk a lot but, while your posts turn around game design, your thoughts are mostly random and disorganized ; therefore at the opposite of what game design should be.




Yeah, of course, a game that was already in Patreon top 3 most supported adult games in late 2017, is popular because the Covid sanitary crisis let people bored at home. And DarkCookie spend millions in ads, this too is a known fact...
Oh, by the way, it also never was the only western 2D art game.


0/10 Trolling is a art, while you don't even reach the level of talent that a parent can find when changing his baby diaper.
So what do you think was the reason for Summertime Saga' popularity/marketing/advertisement? besides being "old"? at the risk of derailing and going into a marketing thread.
"Where?" you still don't know what GIRL stands for? kek, these gen-Z ombies these days. But you also always assume instead of asking "What did you mean by this? what is a girl with all capitals?" neither do you express your assumption "I believe you're talking about X from a Y perspective".
spent* an* art baby's*
also it was* never the only

I do not call myself a troll, I am something else .
You on the other hand seem kinda young, are you one of those Redditors pretending to be from 4chan? or who think 4chan is nothing but /b/ & /pol/? To be fair, they are the 2 biggest boards along with /v/, the rest pale in comparison in terms of numbers.

My posts in this thread are not something I'd put in the GDD. Have you opened the GDD? you read it? and?
You'll see another one of my posts stating something about the current GDD.
 

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While I don't appreciate OP's abrasiveness, I'll share my 2 cents.

I think there are roughly two categories of porn games: games with a porn theme, or porn with barely any game mechanics.

The first category of games could stand on it's own. If you remove the porn, it's still a good game. And likely one that could reach a larger audience. So if you're in the business of selling your game, you wouldn't add a porn theme. Some games do flirt with it a little bit; I mean, I'm sure we all decided our party in Baldur's Gate 3 was to be a nudist party, right?

The second category is pretty much any VN or VN-adjacent game (life simulators, CYOA, etc.). These games can be extremely good as 'porn', but they're not much of a 'game'. In the sense that there are meaningful decisions to make, or puzzles to solve. The dialogue and visuals make it interesting.

I haven't seen a successful game that managed to make 'sex' it's central game mechanic. Some games try but it's either used sparingly or it becomes tedious really quickly. If you claim to have a silver bullet, I'd say go for it, maybe you know something that none of us do.

So I agree with that idea that porn games are not a genre, but a theme.
 

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So what do you think was the reason for Summertime Saga' popularity/marketing/advertisement? besides being "old"?
I don't know and I don't care.
But one thing I know for sure is that it was already on top in terms of popularity mid 2017 ; , one year after being started. Therefore your bullshit regarding lockdown being the reason is nothing more than that, pure bullshit.


"Where?" you still don't know what GIRL stands for? kek, these gen-Z ombies these days.
Funny how the last sentence atomize the claim that it follow.
You're as good as guessing what girls stands for than you are at guessing my generation...

Hint: I'm older than the first microprocessor.


But you also always assume [...]
Say the guy who built all his answer over the absurd belief that I have the age of my youngest child :ROFLMAO:


I do not call myself a troll, I am something else .
It's obvious that you are something else than a troll. But I try to become nicer, and calling you "brainless idiot on drugs" would have defeated this.
 
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Then I apologize on behalf of gen-Zers, they do nothing but corrupt anything and everything, even 60+ year old college teachers started behaving, thinking, talking like Z(oomers). They even get to me by blaming Corona for things when smartphones have turned everyone into screen-staring geeks since 2012. However I blame especially the environment; the internet.
Albeit 90s and 2000s internet never had propaganda from external sources being pushed onto it, it was too niche to ever want to be marketed towards.
Gen-Zers have corrupted even millennials, I will never understand a millennial abandoning his 2000s tastes in favor of 2010s ones. However there are a few gems to be found in the 2010s like Adam Lambert and Lindsey Stirling even if they cannot compare to the talent born and fostered since the 70s and perfected in 95 till 2005. Curse the year 2008, the tipping point. They are right; age is just a number. You are born with intelligence. Knowledge & experiences? Most people live in a cubicle, what experiences to have?
"Says* the guy who built all his answers*"
"other* than a troll"
"But I am trying to become nicer, so calling you"
Not even grammar Nazi correcting.
 

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While I don't appreciate OP's abrasiveness, I'll share my 2 cents.

I think there are roughly two categories of porn games: games with a porn theme, or porn with barely any game mechanics.

The first category of games could stand on it's own. If you remove the porn, it's still a good game. And likely one that could reach a larger audience. So if you're in the business of selling your game, you wouldn't add a porn theme. Some games do flirt with it a little bit; I mean, I'm sure we all decided our party in Baldur's Gate 3 was to be a nudist party, right?

The second category is pretty much any VN or VN-adjacent game (life simulators, CYOA, etc.). These games can be extremely good as 'porn', but they're not much of a 'game'. In the sense that there are meaningful decisions to make, or puzzles to solve. The dialogue and visuals make it interesting.

I haven't seen a successful game that managed to make 'sex' it's central game mechanic. Some games try but it's either used sparingly or it becomes tedious really quickly. If you claim to have a silver bullet, I'd say go for it, maybe you know something that none of us do.

So I agree with that idea that porn games are not a genre, but a theme.
I come from a different time before VNs existed, they used to be called Dating Sims. You actually had stats in it, but you always utilized energy for everything even walking n talking. Often times energy & health were the same thing. They still sucked ass compared to Stick RPG.
We did have plenty of 3-pathway dodging SIDESCROLLERS not platformers, where you had to get injured to get the sex animations. Your platformers are way more advanced than what I had.
However those were in the minority back then.

We used to have slash & shoot to strip minigames with RPG mechanics.
And the other 90% were either quizzes or "click next for the animation after the progress bar loaded", often both.
No way did we have eroge wrestlers, brawlers & fighters back in the very early 2000s ... maybe 2008. Brawlers for some reason are a decent fit with hentai games, but I never saw idle games & autobattlers back then pair with hentai, neither RTS & Civilization type games. Wrestling games still seem like the best fit for a hentai game and I think some were made, I just don't remember the names, they would allow you to build your own wrestling moves and to do autobattle so you can relax and enjoy the match. Stealth would also have been good, but I never saw one.

Super Deepthroat still remains visually & mechanically the closest thing to making an eroge game, and it still doesn't even scratch the surface. It doesn't have stats/goals/grinding to make it like an arcade game with score & stuff like it's the 80s. Super Deepthroat mechanically is a good proof of concept to add to onto a bigger game like say Pokemon which also combined yet kept 2 different gameplay styles separated without sabotaging each other(for the most part). Pocket Monsters is still a poorman's Monster Rancher and Dragon Quest Monsters ... and Final Fantasy and Earthbound.

I would be adding salt on the wound if I said Custer's Revenge is more of a video game than most VNs today, but it would be true.
Albeit some would also argue simulators aren't video games cause they don't follow the arcade game format.
 
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The disatadvantage of talking & writing such a GDD is that 99% of people here can only make Ren'Py VNs & RPGMaker games, not even Dating Simulators & Game Maker games.
The advantage of talking & writing about such a GDD is also that 99% of people here can only make Ren'Py VNs & RPGMaker games, not even Dating Simulators & Game Maker games.
 

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Albeit 90s and 2000s internet never had propaganda from external sources being pushed onto it, it was too niche to ever want to be marketed towards.
Yeah, Berkeley and Stanford guys never ever pushed their agenda into that bunch of networks they were working on and with... /s
But I wonder, what about the 80's ? After all, you talk about internet, not about the world wide web, so why don't you cover at least the first decade of the fourth version of the Internet Protocol ? It's were internet starts, with protocols like FTP and NNTP over TCP/IP.


Curse the year 2008, the tipping point.
As if... The Web turned social because the public wanting it that way was already here.

It's more the mid 90's that are to blame, with AOL and MSN branding the web as its own network and starting, slowly, to connect its users together through homemade application. Then, with more and more competitors appearing, at a lower price, during the 00's they discovered the whole world that was hidden by those portal interfaces, but missed that possibility to interact easily with their friends and family. This being reinforced by the migration of BBS users, who were even more in search for those direct interactions. Hence MySpace and its success, followed by nowadays social networks.

God, even when you try to look smart to make forget your previous epic fail, you're totally out of the reality.


Not even grammar Nazi correcting.
Well, at least I'm able to speak more than one language, whatever how bad (and god it's bad) can I be with the one that isn't my native one.
 
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and what is your native language?
French, a bitch language that don't marry well with English, because both too close and too far ; a third of English words come from French, while the grammar come more from the Old Germanic roots of the language.
 

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French, a bitch language that don't marry well with English, because both too close and too far ; a third of English words come from French, while the grammar come more from the Old Germanic roots of the language.
"French is the language of love" as they say
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Will you be my third French friend on this site? I'm making a collection :)
 

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Well, he's Brit, I assume that he grow a habit to be disappointed by Frenchies :D

I'm in... I guess...





Did I just sold my soul or something like that ?
I know a few things about the French: Pierre Woodman Napoleon and funny French comedies ❤
So...No, it's not going to happen, I'll just subscribe to you and that's it.... :)
 

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I know a few things about the French: Pierre Woodman Napoleon and funny French comedies ❤
I'm sure you know a bit more about the French than you realize. You've heard of The Three Musketeers? French. The Hunchback of Notre-Dame? French. The stethoscope? Also French. Beheading the elites that are fucking over the common man? That's very French.
 
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I'm sure you know a bit more about the French than you realize. You've heard of The Three Musketeers? French. The Hunchback of Notre-Dame? French. The stethoscope? Also French. Beheading the elites that are fucking over the common man? That's very French.
Oh, I also remembered Eva Green :) but the rest of the listed things are not interesting to me