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the game got nerfed as there is more than sufficient content fer ye tae do in the city, so two years. the team is aiming fer eight years, so the skills growths is reflective o' that. this is one o' the reasons i asked fer the breakout o' stats tae figure out areas i could balance for ballet skills growth which is the area i work on most. it is also one o' the main reasons i have nae got around to creating mair ballet content as i have tae dog food me own code wi' balancing and bug fixing.
Oooph... As a dev (though of table top RPGS) that sounds rough. Though... I can see two things that might help: A buff like the one in the MtF start or lowering the requirements for the 'school level' activities. For the first I played the MtF to see what it was like (not knowing it was basically a custom stat requirement and having no idea what stats I would need) and the buff did help make skills feel 'okish' as they developed. Or... 40 for either Volleyball or Albina (the 2 I know of) would probably be fine and are achievable without needing to specifically start with the volleyball or dancer backgrounds. But that's just some ideas off the top of my head! xD
 

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Oooph... As a dev (though of table top RPGS) that sounds rough. Though... I can see two things that might help: A buff like the one in the MtF start or lowering the requirements for the 'school level' activities. For the first I played the MtF to see what it was like (not knowing it was basically a custom stat requirement and having no idea what stats I would need) and the buff did help make skills feel 'okish' as they developed. Or... 40 for either Volleyball or Albina (the 2 I know of) would probably be fine and are achievable without needing to specifically start with the volleyball or dancer backgrounds. But that's just some ideas off the top of my head! xD
you wid be best bouncing that into the discord fer discussion. most o' the devs or team do not hang around here. i only do when i hae time to do so or taking a break fae game testing or real life commitments allow me. i am looking at introducing new systems to make the game more accessible to new players some o' which will land next release. one of the biggest projects i hae out-with ballet is over-hauling the journal quests page to be a lot more user friendly and informative and a lot easier fer coders to add the quests stages, after that i can hopefully bring those same systems across to other parts o' the game. we already made the skills growth far more accessible fer players. there is a lot going on under the hood at the moment even if you do not see much content being added, a lot o' modernising the auld game systems and generally making the game easier to engage wi' o'er the last few releases
 

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you wid be best bouncing that into the discord fer discussion. most o' the devs or team do not hang around here. i only do when i hae time to do so or taking a break fae game testing or real life commitments allow me. i am looking at introducing new systems to make the game more accessible to new players some o' which will land next release. one of the biggest projects i hae out-with ballet is over-hauling the journal quests page to be a lot more user friendly and informative and a lot easier fer coders to add the quests stages, after that i can hopefully bring those same systems across to other parts o' the game. we already made the skills growth far more accessible fer players. there is a lot going on under the hood at the moment even if you do not see much content being added, a lot o' modernising the auld game systems and generally making the game easier to engage wi' o'er the last few releases
Sadly I have no time for that... I'm already part of more Discord servers than I have time for. I wish I had more time, anytime the world wants to give me like 40 hour days I'm all for it! xD

Though if anyone is in their discord and wants to put forth either ideas I'm fine with that!


And now back to my journey with Albina... Vicky grabbed me and dragged her to her house straight after school to miss my 2nd day with Albina... And I don't have a good idea what days I need to be there anyways... It's not in Quests or Work.. and if it did have a 'moodlet' like your mood, I didn't see it on Monday... I can't wait for clear information... xD


Something completely unrelated, but... Has Vicky's quest changed? I'm spending the night at her house and the wiki says "Spy on them between 23-23:30" and suggests it's random... But I used quick save to do it over 30 times... And it never happened... I assume I spy on them in Vicky's room...? xD
 
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Wow... A month to go from 49 to 50? Or is that meant to be something like 20-50? Because a month for 1 point seems... Insane.

As a test, since I can't see progress bars, I went into the cheat menu and just bumped my agility by 1 (52 to 53)... I instantly hit 50 in Modern Dance... So I must have been very close. It also seems I'd been better off doing more exercise.
Basically, it takes 2 levels of modern dancing skill to gain 1 point in modern dancing, or 6 points of the associated stats (Agi, Rea, End).

Training modern dancing is quite slow, and once your modern dancing skill level hits 50, I think you can't even train it at Pavlovsk community center anymore.

If you're looking to train your stats, volleyball classes at the community center are ridiculously good (compared to other options) for training Str, Agi and End. For Reaction you gotta wake up pretty early in the morning and squeeze in some jump roping, which will also help with Agi.
 

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Basically, it takes 2 levels of modern dancing skill to gain 1 point in modern dancing, or 6 points of the associated stats (Agi, Rea, End).

Training modern dancing is quite slow, and once your modern dancing skill level hits 50, I think you can't even train it at Pavlovsk community center anymore.

If you're looking to train your stats, volleyball classes at the community center are ridiculously good (compared to other options) for training Str, Agi and End. For Reaction you gotta wake up pretty early in the morning and squeeze in some jump roping, which will also help with Agi.
ballet secrets can also be good for advanced training wi' ballet, yoga and pilates being offered in the next release. it has higher barrier o' entry wi' travel time and membership costs. we are also discussing about adding sports injuries requiring a physio and recuperation if you over train.
 

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Oooph... As a dev (though of table top RPGS) that sounds rough. Though... I can see two things that might help: A buff like the one in the MtF start or lowering the requirements for the 'school level' activities. For the first I played the MtF to see what it was like (not knowing it was basically a custom stat requirement and having no idea what stats I would need) and the buff did help make skills feel 'okish' as they developed. Or... 40 for either Volleyball or Albina (the 2 I know of) would probably be fine and are achievable without needing to specifically start with the volleyball or dancer backgrounds. But that's just some ideas off the top of my head! xD
You can change the xp advancement in the menu. The default is set for it taking several years to hit max stats, if you change the xp gain you can speed it up or slow it down.
 

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I'm a long time fan of this game. It's always been one of my favorites and I love the fact that it still continues to develop even to this day.

I did have a curious question in the plans for development - will it ever be possible to have a sexual but positive reputation? Essentially, I'm hoping there will eventually be a way 'main character' will have such a reputation of free use and because she's such a friendly Bimbo people aren't cruel to her (As it currently is if your reputation gets slutty then the effect is outcast and generally most characters don't want to speak or are mean). Don't get me wrong, I think that the current kind of function should be there too, it would just be nice to have a couple paths toward Slutty/Outcast and Slutty/friendly.

Curious if one day the game can kind of mimic a Spidu Free Use kind of comic if you've ever read their art. People casually groping and bending over the main character because she's just such a friendly little gal. ;)
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So... Skill questions aside... I keep hitting stumbling blocks in certain quests:

I still can't figure out how to get the event to fire at the Meynold house as part of Vicky's questline. I can repeat the talk with the mom and the invite to stay the night, but I've never had anything else happen and I have no idea why. Until I can figure it out I actually put that playthrough on hold...

In the meantime I decided to make a new MtF school run and start it sooner so I can develop my skills more. In that run I can't seem to trigger the threesome with Anya, the sister, and Roma. I can have loads of lesbian sex with sis, but nothing more... Maybe it's because that run I'm still a 'virgin'? The MC there hasn't done more than anal...

Also... I'm trying to get the 2nd Anushka event to come up where she invites you to eat her out (because you can't get an invite to her house before that I believe), but even hundreds of attempts in I can never get that one. Anushka is a cutie, so I don't want to miss out... But does it maybe require school to be in session? Scratch that, I finally got it to fire... It's just apparently super ultra rare... And the wiki claims this leads to a scene in the hall, but if I follow her she confronts me and then walks off...? Did eating her out on the stairs go away?
 
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I'm a long time fan of this game. It's always been one of my favorites and I love the fact that it still continues to develop even to this day.

I did have a curious question in the plans for development - will it ever be possible to have a sexual but positive reputation? Essentially, I'm hoping there will eventually be a way 'main character' will have such a reputation of free use and because she's such a friendly Bimbo people aren't cruel to her (As it currently is if your reputation gets slutty then the effect is outcast and generally most characters don't want to speak or are mean). Don't get me wrong, I think that the current kind of function should be there too, it would just be nice to have a couple paths toward Slutty/Outcast and Slutty/friendly.

Curious if one day the game can kind of mimic a Spidu Free Use kind of comic if you've ever read their art. People casually groping and bending over the main character because she's just such a friendly little gal. ;)
Thoughts?
No because that is one of the core aspects of the game, to balance your rep with what you do. With that said some NPC's don't care about your rep so won't treat you bad because of it.
 

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So... Skill questions aside... I keep hitting stumbling blocks in certain quests:

I still can't figure out how to get the event to fire at the Meynold house as part of Vicky's questline. I can repeat the talk with the mom and the invite to stay the night, but I've never had anything else happen and I have no idea why. Until I can figure it out I actually put that playthrough on hold...

In the meantime I decided to make a new MtF school run and start it sooner so I can develop my skills more. In that run I can't seem to trigger the threesome with Anya, the sister, and Roma. I can have loads of lesbian sex with sis, but nothing more... Maybe it's because that run I'm still a 'virgin'? The MC there hasn't done more than anal...

Also... I'm trying to get the 2nd Anushka event to come up where she invites you to eat her out (because you can't get an invite to her house before that I believe), but even hundreds of attempts in I can never get that one. Anushka is a cutie, so I don't want to miss out... But does it maybe require school to be in session?
I personally don't work on the Meynolds so I am not sure exactly what you have to do to start that.

The cursed school boy starts with some of the worst stats in the game so you will actually be in worse off even if you start sooner to try and get you stats/skills up.

As for Anya there is a Anya/Roma 3some even if you are a virgin. So that won't block it, as I wrote that special scene. The only thing you have to do is mess around with Anya enough and spy on her and Roma a few times and I believe it should unlock it

As for Anushka you can have sex with her before going to her apartment but actually it is easier to do the other way. All you need to do to get a invite to her apartment is get your relationship up to 60 with her and then talk to her at school, I believe the disco, or catch her in the apartment courtyard and she should invite you.
 

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Scratch that, I finally got it to fire... It's just apparently super ultra rare... And the wiki claims this leads to a scene in the hall, but if I follow her she confronts me and then walks off...? Did eating her out on the stairs go away?
Some events that fire when entering locations (such as stranger hook-ups) are quite low chance because if they weren't, they'd show up so much it'd be a bother.

The event hasn't gone away, you probably just don't have good enough relationship with her.
 
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Also... I'm trying to get the 2nd Anushka event to come up where she invites you to eat her out (because you can't get an invite to her house before that I believe), but even hundreds of attempts in I can never get that one. Anushka is a cutie, so I don't want to miss out... But does it maybe require school to be in session? Scratch that, I finally got it to fire... It's just apparently super ultra rare... And the wiki claims this leads to a scene in the hall, but if I follow her she confronts me and then walks off...? Did eating her out on the stairs go away?
No it did not go away, some of the older content has been tweaked so it flows together a bit better now. The best way to do her content is become friends first and visit her apartment a few times and hangout, then it starts unlocking things. You use to be able to just jump into stuff, but now you have to be friends first.
 

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I personally don't work on the Meynolds so I am not sure exactly what you have to do to start that.
Sad... I can do other quests and let that sit there, but I think I'll give it a little bit in case anyone has ideas...

The cursed school boy starts with some of the worst stats in the game so you will actually be in worse off even if you start sooner to try and get you stats/skills up.
Well it's a custom start... I have a good idea now what starting stats should look like and I started from June so I can work up skills and stats. The hard part of that is only really getting to socialize at the dances on Friday & Saturday nights before school starts... And trying to not have 'sex' and piss off 'mom'. xD

Though I also am unlikely to be able to do Albina's questline with the Starlets... Mostly because I chose to start as a Gopnik. Mostly so I'd have an easier time getting 'seduced' by Anushka. I'm pretty sure she could tempt a straight man into 'gay' sex if she was part of it... xD

As for Anya there is a Anya/Roma 3some even if you are a virgin. So that won't block it, as I wrote that special scene. The only thing you have to do is mess around with Anya enough and spy on her and Roma a few times and I believe it should unlock it
Well that's good to know! I'm having a bit of trouble to get her to ask me if Roma can come over. As much as I inquire about him she tends to not ask... That's probably the part that's tripping me up right now...

As for Anushka you can have sex with her before going to her apartment but actually it is easier to do the other way. All you need to do to get a invite to her apartment is get your relationship up to 60 with her and then talk to her at school, I believe the disco, or catch her in the apartment courtyard and she should invite you.
Actually I got the invite at 51 with her... Though that may be courtyard specific as she's never invited me to her house from anywhere else... She may be my favorite because she reminds me of my ex-fiance... Hot AF? Check. Gets us involved in threesomes? Check. Likes to drink? Check. Averse to commitment? Definitely check.

Some events that fore when entering locations (such as stranger hook-ups) are quite low chance because if they weren't, they'd show up so much it'd be a bother.

The event hasn't gone away, you probably just don't have good enough relationship with her.
I can understand that (and what seems to be a cool down timer on any scenes firing off once you get one), but in over 200 times I get scenes with the guy who feeds the birds 3 times and a scene with her once.

As for relation with her... The wiki said the scene starts to fire at 30. I was doing it at 48... It feels weird that she gives you a come on and then goes 'nope!'.
 

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As for relation with her... The wiki said the scene starts to fire at 30. I was doing it at 48... It feels weird that she gives you a come on and then goes 'nope!'.
Huh...

Must be old info, I think? I definitely haven't gotten sex out of that event until at least like 60 relationship. Unless it's something like a % chance to occur once you hit 30.
 

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I have noticed a few other strange things... In my Gopnik run even wearing a fancy dress from a shop in town and dancing well at the disco seems to make my cool kid, nerd, and even jock relations drop... The individual members relations don't drop, it's purely the faction rating. Just in the summer before school I went from 'Tolerated' to 'Disliked' and I don't get why it went down... Now that school is on and I'm wearing an outfit that everyone except the nerds likes, this is rising... I've actually kinda planned for this run to be starting as a Gopnik and moving into Jocks having spent the entire summer working out and planning to join the Volleyball team... I'd join the cheerleaders, but I'm not sure I can raise Faction rating fast enough to get in...

Also Albina pre-school couldn't go above 20. She started at 30, dropped to 20, and even cheating couldn't bring her above it. Is she meant to have some sort of grudge against the Gopnik faction or is this a bug? With school active my outfit actually boosts her (slowly) each day. So she briefly goes up and then immediately drops to 20 by the next day. Though I had thought that maybe I could join the Starlets, but um... Having Modern Dance of 50 she calls me a druggy and won't give me the time of day. xD

Btw on that thought... Is there a way to 'cheat' faction rating...?

Huh...

Must be old info, I think? I definitely haven't gotten sex out of that event until at least like 60 relationship. Unless it's something like a % chance to occur once you hit 30.
Well I get the event, but she just leads me on and then walks off. Even now when we have slept together in her apartment a dozen times she still won't do anything with me during that event (at 58). It's just a bit strange. xD
 
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Albina pre-school couldn't go above 20. She started at 30, dropped to 20, and even cheating couldn't bring her above it. Is she meant to have some sort of grudge against the Gopnik faction or is this a bug? With school active my outfit actually boosts her (slowly) each day. So she briefly goes up and then immediately drops to 20 by the next day. Though I had thought that maybe I could join the Starlets, but um... Having Modern Dance of 50 she calls me a druggy and won't give me the time of day. xD
Not a bug. As you guessed, she has a hatred for gopniks and, much like Christina, her RP will be reset every night if it goes above 20.
I intentionally done this both to add some nuance to her character and because I hate the idea of the player character being able to be friends with everyone, even people who shouldn't realistically like her.
 

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Sad... I can do other quests and let that sit there, but I think I'll give it a little bit in case anyone has ideas...
Bgk writes for Katja and Derryth for Vicky they both sometimes post on here, Derryth more so they may see your post and be able to better answer it, if the wiki and in game journal is not helping enough.


Well it's a custom start... I have a good idea now what starting stats should look like and I started from June so I can work up skills and stats. The hard part of that is only really getting to socialize at the dances on Friday & Saturday nights before school starts... And trying to not have 'sex' and piss off 'mom'. xD
Yeah summer is mostly for the Gad village start, there is not yet a ton to do in Pav over the summer yet.

Though I also am unlikely to be able to do Albina's questline with the Starlets... Mostly because I chose to start as a Gopnik.
She loathes gopniks so that alone will block you from it, you have to be a jock or I think a cool kid, but really only the jock dancer starts with high enough skills to manage to get good enough to do it with out cheating.

Mostly so I'd have an easier time getting 'seduced' by Anushka. I'm pretty sure she could tempt a straight man into 'gay' sex if she was part of it... xD
Anushka is one of the few school kids that doesn't care about social groups, though she is a little different at times based on your social group, but you are just as likely to be "seduced" by her regardless of your social standing.

Well that's good to know! I'm having a bit of trouble to get her to ask me if Roma can come over. As much as I inquire about him she tends to not ask... That's probably the part that's tripping me up right now...
Yeah you have to watch them a few times, I don't remember how many, so that would be my guess is you just need to do it a bit more.

Actually I got the invite at 51 with her... Though that may be courtyard specific as she's never invited me to her house from anywhere else... She may be my favorite because she reminds me of my ex-fiance... Hot AF? Check. Gets us involved in threesomes? Check. Likes to drink? Check. Averse to commitment? Definitely check.
Glad you enjoy her, she is one of my creations and I wrote most of her content, though Dr Cat helped with some, he did some of the mom, a little of the brothers and about half of the fathers content.

Anushka is very loosely based on/inspired by Chloe Price from Life is Strange... aka my avatar image.
 
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I have noticed a few other strange things... In my Gopnik run even wearing a fancy dress from a shop in town and dancing well at the disco seems to make my cool kid, nerd, and even jock relations drop... The individual members relations don't drop, it's purely the faction rating. Just in the summer before school I went from 'Tolerated' to 'Disliked' and I don't get why it went down... Now that school is on and I'm wearing an outfit that everyone except the nerds likes, this is rising... I've actually kinda planned for this run to be starting as a Gopnik and moving into Jocks having spent the entire summer working out and planning to join the Volleyball team... I'd join the cheerleaders, but I'm not sure I can raise Faction rating fast enough to get in...
For the disco it is also about makeup, if you dance naked, if the dress is TO revealing etc, there is a lot of things that can cause it to go up or down and there is no way to make everyone happy, that was a design choice.

[/QUOTE]Btw on that thought... Is there a way to 'cheat' faction rating...?
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Yes but I don't know what it is, one of the coders would have to say.
 
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