QSP Girl Life [v0.9.7] [community project]

[captainnegative]

those, but there is more than one people that do BDSM. Kendra at the Uni is one the mistress in the city is one. one of the pav boys and a couple of others do it as well who's name escapes me at the moment.

Hmmm I don't think I've seen the pav boy one, If you do remember who that is, I'd like to know as well.

 

[Nutluck]

Hmmm I don't think I've seen the pav boy one, If you do remember who that is, I'd like to know as well.

I don't want to spoil his story, is why I didn't say his name. Since it is a bit of a surprise.

Spoiler: name if you want a spoiler

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[halcyonpurge]

Gosha is a boy in the Uni, not sure why you would see his name. But I am a writer and not a coder so someone like Kevin or Myles could likely explain it better.

Gosha is just who comes up when searching for "A127". "ParkKafe" is only one of two locations in the entire game where this identifier is used in a narrative setting; it only otherwise appears briefly in "sny" which looks like Dimka's new years party, and in "npc_standard_preferences" for technical reasons, and whether it's referring to Gosha or Shulyov there isn't clear either.

with this being set up the way that it is, i wasn't sure if relying on this relation value to influence Shulyov's dialogue was a good idea, because it could very well be manipulating Gosha's relationship by accident. until or unless i find out the "right" way to track the player's relationship with Shul, i've just set up a new soniaQW variable to keep track of it. i did also use the opportunity to try implementing a refractory period for him so that the player couldn't just endlessly drain his balls, but i've yet to find a reliable way of doing that.

 

[captainnegative]

I don't want to spoil his story, is why I didn't say his name. Since it is a bit of a surprise.

Thanks

I don't really care very much about spoilers, personally. If anything, this gives me an incentive to check his story out. Very unlikely I would, otherwise.

 

[Nutluck]

Gosha is just who comes up when searching for "A127". "ParkKafe" is only one of two locations in the entire game where this identifier is used in a narrative setting; it only otherwise appears briefly in "sny" which looks like Dimka's new years party, and in "npc_standard_preferences" for technical reasons, and whether it's referring to Gosha or Shulyov there isn't clear either.
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with this being set up the way that it is, i wasn't sure if relying on this relation value to influence Shulyov's dialogue was a good idea, because it could very well be manipulating Gosha's relationship by accident. until or unless i find out the "right" way to track the player's relationship with Shul, i've just set up a new soniaQW variable to keep track of it. i did also use the opportunity to try implementing a refractory period for him so that the player couldn't just endlessly drain his balls, but i've yet to find a reliable way of doing that.

That is a bug, not sure how it happened but Gosha is using the wrong ID number in that scene and it is increasing Shulyov's and not his. Hopefully Kevin or one of the other coders see this and can go in a fix it.

That is the OLD way of doing it. The new way is

gs 'npc_relationship', 'modify', 'A#', 'like'
'like' => moves relationship positively a small amount (1/2)
'love' => moves relationship positively a moderate amount (3/4)
'adore' => moves relationship positively a large amount (5/6)
'dislike' => moves relationship negatively a small amount (-1/2)
'hate' => moves relationship negatively a moderate amount (-3/4)
'loathe' => moves relationship negatively a large amount (-5/6)

that way you can put in different tags and it gives a slightly random amount.

 

[Nutluck]

Thanks

I don't really care very much about spoilers, personally. If anything, this gives me an incentive to check his story out. Very unlikely I would, otherwise.

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Some do and some don't but even if you didn't I didn't want to name him incase someone else reads my post and doesn't want to be spoiled.

 

[captainnegative]

Some do and some don't but even if you didn't I didn't want to name him incase someone else reads my post and doesn't want to be spoiled.

Of course, of course, it's good practice

 

[Notta Kname]

The spell Penis Envy was made by me, to give people that asked for a trans character the closest thing I could give them a bit of what they want. without creating a massive amount of work for us, for what is honestly a niche request for a game where the MC is a suppose to be a girl.

Trans girls are girls though I can see how gameplaywise it makes no real difference. I'm relatively certain a lot of, if not most, trans women would prefer to be functionally identical in that regard to cis women. I suppose still needing HRT would be the only gameplay difference at that point but half the time that can be waved away by gameworld tech and/or magic.
That said... I don't like the name of that spell but don't really have a suggestion for improvement. Magock. IDK.


Anyway, onward to ?bug? reporting.
Baseline: I used the "I have a lot of friends" Popular-Magic-One Month before School starts settings. In terms of cheat menu usage I've looked through it several times to check stats, adjusted money amount a few times when I accidentally save scummed over my own jackpot at the one-armed bandit, and one teleport from the City Center to Pavlosk. It is currently Wednesday, 28 September 2016 in game time. Relaxed Difficulty with 0% skill degradation. This save file was started on version 0.9.5.1.

First, I get an "Unknown Action"/Code 119 popup when attempting most things at Tatiana's appearance modification. Some work as long as I have enough mana (but still have a Code 119 if I don't).

Second, I seem to be unable to learn spells. It always says "You diligently study the spell for an hour, but are unable to grasp it." Is there something beyond the stat requirement for learning them? I have level 50 magic and 100 spellcasting but even when I used cheats to test max stats Stun, Berserker Rage, Cure Wounds, Cure Disease, and Makeup still always say I can't grasp it. Also studying magic books sometimes says "You come across a lead on a new spell" and there's no new spell listed to learn.
(Some quick additional testing and I was able to learn Makeup after 5 attempts so I'm guessing your chances of learning increase as you keep trying. If that's the case I suggest making that more clear in the text; something like adding a bit on the end to the effect of the player having learned a bit more about the spell/gained some sort of insight/more confidence for next time/etc.)

Third, I can't join the Nerd study group anymore and I'm not sure why. I was able to in the past and was using it to build my relationships with the Nerd group. Now though the library says they're there but there is no option to join them.
In case it's relevant I have a good relationship (80+) with all of the female nerds with the male nerds hovering around 50ish (except Feofan who I have kicked in the balls twice now but is still at 42.) I have also tried going with homework done and with it not done; no option to join either way.

Fourth is more a note than anything; I'm glad that being a lesbian is an option but it is rather irritating to declare that you're a lesbian and still have decidely non-lesbian dreams and several dialogues that assume Sveta is straight. Like I get other people assuming she is I'm talking about dialogue where all of the player's dialogue or dialogue options are still heteronormative. For instance, the strangely flirty "Hello" option at school to Mr. Tsarev still has Sveta say "I need to find a nice man for myself," (Also that dialogue can trigger regardless of if you've actually done your homework... or been to the club. Just seems weird.)

 

[Nutluck]

Trans girls are girls though I can see how gameplaywise it makes no real difference. I'm relatively certain a lot of, if not most, trans women would prefer to be functionally identical in that regard to cis women. I suppose still needing HRT would be the only gameplay difference at that point but half the time that can be waved away by gameworld tech and/or magic.
That said... I don't like the name of that spell but don't really have a suggestion for improvement. Magock. IDK.

That already exist with the magic guy city start and magic school boy starts where they are like a cis woman. The spell was made for the vocal minority that wanted a trans woman that still had a dick but was otherwise fully female. That was just not feasible as ever single sex scene and many others would have to have two versions, and worse finding the media. I ended up going with the magic dick looking like a strapon dildo but Sveta able to feel through it as if it was real for that reason, as it proved impossible to find images that fit. Maybe in the future when AI photo alteration gets better we will be able to.

As for the name no one had a better one that fit and made it pretty obvious by the name what the spell does. Also keep in mind the spell was made long ago so the name fitting the mindset of long ago also plays a factor into it.

Anyway, onward to ?bug? reporting.
Baseline: I used the "I have a lot of friends" Popular-Magic-One Month before School starts settings. In terms of cheat menu usage I've looked through it several times to check stats, adjusted money amount a few times when I accidentally save scummed over my own jackpot at the one-armed bandit, and one teleport from the City Center to Pavlosk. It is currently Wednesday, 28 September 2016 in game time. Relaxed Difficulty with 0% skill degradation. This save file was started on version 0.9.5.1.

First, I get an "Unknown Action"/Code 119 popup when attempting most things at Tatiana's appearance modification. Some work as long as I have enough mana (but still have a Code 119 if I don't).

Best bet for bugs is to report them on our discord or hope someone like Kevin can see these and fix them or point one of the coders to it.

Second, I seem to be unable to learn spells. It always says "You diligently study the spell for an hour, but are unable to grasp it." Is there something beyond the stat requirement for learning them? I have level 50 magic and 100 spellcasting but even when I used cheats to test max stats Stun, Berserker Rage, Cure Wounds, Cure Disease, and Makeup still always say I can't grasp it. Also studying magic books sometimes says "You come across a lead on a new spell" and there's no new spell listed to learn.
(Some quick additional testing and I was able to learn Makeup after 5 attempts so I'm guessing your chances of learning increase as you keep trying. If that's the case I suggest making that more clear in the text; something like adding a bit on the end to the effect of the player having learned a bit more about the spell/gained some sort of insight/more confidence for next time/etc.)

I don't know how exactly it works but your stats matter and it takes time, some spells I believe take longer than others to learn.

Third, I can't join the Nerd study group anymore and I'm not sure why. I was able to in the past and was using it to build my relationships with the Nerd group. Now though the library says they're there but there is no option to join them.
In case it's relevant I have a good relationship (80+) with all of the female nerds with the male nerds hovering around 50ish (except Feofan who I have kicked in the balls twice now but is still at 42.) I have also tried going with homework done and with it not done; no option to join either way.

Nerd study night to join them is only if you are also a nerd. It is like nerd game night, something only for nerd characters to do. We have a bit of jock only content as well and eventually all the social groups will have content only they can do.

Fourth is more a note than anything; I'm glad that being a lesbian is an option but it is rather irritating to declare that you're a lesbian and still have decidely non-lesbian dreams and several dialogues that assume Sveta is straight. Like I get other people assuming she is I'm talking about dialogue where all of the player's dialogue or dialogue options are still heteronormative. For instance, the strangely flirty "Hello" option at school to Mr. Tsarev still has Sveta say "I need to find a nice man for myself," (Also that dialogue can trigger regardless of if you've actually done your homework... or been to the club. Just seems weird.)

The dreams need a revamp and I know Kevin was hoping to last update or the update before to finally get a setting for straight, lesbian, or default bi. But even once that is in place it will take us a LONG time to slowly added variations to some of those scenes. I honestly don't know if the base code is done and in game yet or not.

 

[halcyonpurge]

That is a bug, not sure how it happened but Gosha is using the wrong ID number in that scene and it is increasing Shulyov's and not his. Hopefully Kevin or one of the other coders see this and can go in a fix it.

all of this is very good to know, really made it a lot easier to start adding new event variations with him. if i ever do actually come up with something to pad out Shulyov, i might stop by the server - at the moment, just laying groundwork with placeholder events and experimenting with conditions.

except Feofan who I have kicked in the balls twice now but is still at 42.)

is it really a bug if you kick a guy in the balls and he decides he doesn't wanna study with you
I think, if having a bunch of trans-friendly content (and other stuff you might think is super important) is something you're looking for, you might want to look at Becoming Prom Queen. everything about the description and the content shown in the changelogs seems to track more with what you want in a game.

 

[Notta Kname]

That already exist with the magic guy city start and magic school boy starts where they are like a cis woman. The spell was made for the vocal minority that wanted a trans woman that still had a dick but was otherwise fully female. That was just not feasible as ever single sex scene and many others would have to have two versions, and worse finding the media. I ended up going with the magic dick looking like a strapon dildo but Sveta able to feel through it as if it was real for that reason, as it proved impossible to find images that fit. Maybe in the future when AI photo alteration gets better we will be able to.

As for the name no one had a better one that fit and made it pretty obvious by the name what the spell does. Also keep in mind the spell was made long ago so the name fitting the mindset of long ago also plays a factor into it.

Oh I figured as much, just wanted to clarify for any trans women reading through these.

Best bet for bugs is to report them on our discord or hope someone like Kevin can see these and fix them or point one of the coders to it.

Ah that makes more sense, though unfortunately I only use discord as a voice chat app for IRL friends and family so I'm unlikely to actually... do that. Ahaha...ha...

I don't know how exactly it works but your stats matter and it takes time, some spells I believe take longer than others to learn.

Yeah I thought stats were all that mattered so I saved before trying to learn any spell and if it failed I rolled back to use that hour on something else. It's also why I was rather surprised when I tested giving myself max all stats and attributes still resulted in not learning the spell in one try.

Nerd study night to join them is only if you are also a nerd. It is like nerd game night, something only for nerd characters to do. We have a bit of jock only content as well and eventually all the social groups will have content only they can do.

This is strange to me since I was able to join their study group despite being a popular kid. There even seemed to be specific dialogue for it with them being nervous and saying they didn't want any trouble. Then one week I just suddenly stopped being able to join their study group.

The dreams need a revamp and I know Kevin was hoping to last update or the update before to finally get a setting for straight, lesbian, or default bi. But even once that is in place it will take us a LONG time to slowly added variations to some of those scenes. I honestly don't know if the base code is done and in game yet or not.

Oh that'd be great, I look forward to that update. And thank all of you for the work you're doing. I may not be particularly interested in a lot of the content but this is probably one of the most extensive life sims I've ever seen and is quite impressive.

is it really a bug if you kick a guy in the balls and he decides he doesn't wanna study with you

Obligatory: He started it. Also outvoted, all the other nerds like me. *insert vindictive grin here*
But nah "everybody's friend" Sveta will retaliate but leave it at that.

I think, if having a bunch of trans-friendly content (and other stuff you might think is super important) is something you're looking for, you might want to look at Becoming Prom Queen. everything about the description and the content shown in the changelogs seems to track more with what you want in a game.

I'm actually only looking for lesbian content and while that certainly does include trans women I find this site generally doesn't use either tag very well. I mainly emphasized the lack of real gameplay differences between a post-op trans woman and a cis woman because, well, there's a lack of any real gameplay difference especially when better tech or magic is involved. This assumes a perfectly or at least mostly accepting world of course but I think trans people get enough $#!T IRL to have to deal with it in a game too.
Still, thank you for the suggestion! Might I suggest Course of Temptation in turn? It's my current favorite to point to as a standard for inclusiveness even if I still have a tendency to tune NPC generation to be... heavily sapphic we'll call it.

 

[Nutluck]

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[Nutluck]

all of this is very good to know, really made it a lot easier to start adding new event variations with him. if i ever do actually come up with something to pad out Shulyov, i might stop by the server - at the moment, just laying groundwork with placeholder events and experimenting with conditions.

like I said if you are interested in helping with the game and seeing your stuff in the game, just DM me on discord as I write for the NPC in question.

 

[Nutluck]

Oh I figured as much, just wanted to clarify for any trans women reading through these.

no worries

Ah that makes more sense, though unfortunately I only use discord as a voice chat app for IRL friends and family so I'm unlikely to actually... do that. Ahaha...ha...

Up to you but we have a dedicated channel with a template how to report a bug that really helps us find and fix them.

Yeah I thought stats were all that mattered so I saved before trying to learn any spell and if it failed I rolled back to use that hour on something else. It's also why I was rather surprised when I tested giving myself max all stats and attributes still resulted in not learning the spell in one try.

Yeah I know it is impossible to do with some spells, but as I said beyond a general understanding I don't know the details of how it works.

This is strange to me since I was able to join their study group despite being a popular kid. There even seemed to be specific dialogue for it with them being nervous and saying they didn't want any trouble. Then one week I just suddenly stopped being able to join their study group.

You are either thinking about crashing the study night which anyone can do. Basically you hang out and wait for them to finish studying and then talk to one of them afterwards, but Feofan is the gate keeper. So it is possible he just says you should leave if he doesn't like you and the rest back him up.

OR

there was a big that let non nerds join when they shouldn't have and it has been fixed.

Oh that'd be great, I look forward to that update. And thank all of you for the work you're doing. I may not be particularly interested in a lot of the content but this is probably one of the most extensive life sims I've ever seen and is quite impressive.

GL is a life sim first and a porn game second in our minds, glad you enjoy it. As for when the dreams are revamped/updated I don't know for sure. I think it is still being worked on. I know reflections when you go to bed was added.

I'm actually only looking for lesbian content and while that certainly does include trans women I find this site generally doesn't use either tag very well.

The GL girls with lesbian only content. Meaning while they might have MFF or even just MF content it can be avoided.
Katja
Anushka - There is some scenes you can see where you watch her have sex with a boy, but I think even all of those are avoidable.
Natasha
Julia
Sonia - though you might have to watch her have sex with boys, but you don't have to join in.

I mainly emphasized the lack of real gameplay differences between a post-op trans woman and a cis woman because, well, there's a lack of any real gameplay difference especially when better tech or magic is involved. This assumes a perfectly or at least mostly accepting world of course but I think trans people get enough $#!T IRL to have to deal with it in a game too.

To the first part it is just a lot less work to not make a difference between them, when it would all just be a little internal thoughts or a little possible reactions/comments. It would be a ton of work for little payoff for what is to be fair a fairly niche content. Not to discount it, just that GL is not a game built for that. It is mostly geared towards a cis girl living in a porn parody of Russia.

Understandable, but for use we have gender issues, gay bashing, racism etc, because we try and stay somewhat close to the tone of RL Russia and we get help from out Russian players what it is like, and we have a fair number of players that like that kind of playstyle. Where the world is not nice and you make the best you can in it.

 

[Kevin Smarts]

Wait, hitchhiking used to unlock road-side prostitution? Do you mean at the highway? I thought the only prostitution options were: gas station offers, offers made to high slut reputation characters in pavlovsk, the sauna, the massage parlour, and street prostitution in petersburg for low inhibition characters with the right clothes. And the hotel, I guess, technically.

Yeah, its fairly new. If Sveta is already a prostitute and hitchhikes or walks the highway there is chance she will be mistaken for a prostitute. Helps if Sveta is pretty but not stunning and wearing prostitute clothing, but we broke it and kind of fixed it. Not sure how fixed it was at time of release, tbh.

 

[Notta Kname]

You are either thinking about crashing the study night which anyone can do. Basically you hang out and wait for them to finish studying and then talk to one of them afterwards, but Feofan is the gate keeper. So it is possible he just says you should leave if he doesn't like you and the rest back him up.

OR

there was a big that let non nerds join when they shouldn't have and it has been fixed.

It's definitely the latter, I didn't even know the former was a thing and was chatting to every nerd every time before pressing the Study button. Also I've played as nerd Sveta before and the study group played out the same aside from the into dialogue. Another thing to add to the maybeIfIJoinTheDiscord.

The GL girls with lesbian only content. Meaning while they might have MFF or even just MF content it can be avoided.
Katja
Anushka - There is some scenes you can see where you watch her have sex with a boy, but I think even all of those are avoidable.
Natasha
Julia
Sonia - though you might have to watch her have sex with boys, but you don't have to join in.

Oh I'm aware of those (several of them due to just how well written everything is) but thank you for taking the time to list them out for me. Also I was briefly confused by "GL girls with lesbian only content" because my brain translates GL to Girls' Love haha. Department of Redundancy Department.

To the first part it is just a lot less work to not make a difference between them, when it would all just be a little internal thoughts or a little possible reactions/comments. It would be a ton of work for little payoff for what is to be fair a fairly niche content. Not to discount it, just that GL is not a game built for that. It is mostly geared towards a cis girl living in a porn parody of Russia.

Yeah I think this'd be something that the game would need to have accounted for since the start for it to be at all reasonable to implement. And how old is this game? Over a decade or something? Even the thought of trawling through that much old code/systems/etc makes me feel a bit dead inside.

Understandable, but for use we have gender issues, gay bashing, racism etc, because we try and stay somewhat close to the tone of RL Russia and we get help from out Russian players what it is like, and we have a fair number of players that like that kind of playstyle. Where the world is not nice and you make the best you can in it.

I have noticed that and I am also one that can enjoy a game of making the best of things you can in an unkind world. If one were to simulate all the $#!T trans people get in game format... this'd frankly be a good game to do it in given its tone. But again, not built for it.
Regardless, I'd say the messiness of life is fairly well conveyed in this game. Even though it's a porn parody I do believe the mentality of "Life sim first, porn game second" you mentioned shows and does a lot for making the darker tones explorable (as opposed to pointless shock value or worse) and getting the lighter tones to really shine.

 

[Kevin Smarts]

Yeah I think this'd be something that the game would need to have accounted for since the start for it to be at all reasonable to implement. And how old is this game? Over a decade or something? Even the thought of trawling through that much old code/systems/etc makes me feel a bit dead inside.

The base game (ETO) is over a decade old, Girl Life is harder to pin down as it was just a translation project for some time. I started about 10 years ago and was doing a lot of translating. Around the time nutluck joined about 9 years ago we started to add new content and a year after that as the previous project leader left and I took over we rebranded as GL.

 

[Nutluck]

It's definitely the latter, I didn't even know the former was a thing and was chatting to every nerd every time before pressing the Study button. Also I've played as nerd Sveta before and the study group played out the same aside from the into dialogue. Another thing to add to the maybeIfIJoinTheDiscord.

Then if it played out the same it was 100% a bug and likely was just fixed is all.

Oh I'm aware of those (several of them due to just how well written everything is) but thank you for taking the time to list them out for me. Also I was briefly confused by "GL girls with lesbian only content" because my brain translates GL to Girls' Love haha. Department of Redundancy Department.

No worries.

Yeah I think this'd be something that the game would need to have accounted for since the start for it to be at all reasonable to implement. And how old is this game? Over a decade or something? Even the thought of trawling through that much old code/systems/etc makes me feel a bit dead inside.

The original game? I don't know 15 years or more. I have been working on it for 9 years come this June and Kevin a year before me. So GL has been around for 10 or more years, and I think the original was at least a few years old by then, so at a guess the original Russian game GL is based on it likely 15 years old or older.

I have noticed that and I am also one that can enjoy a game of making the best of things you can in an unkind world. If one were to simulate all the $#!T trans people get in game format... this'd frankly be a good game to do it in given its tone. But again, not built for it.
Regardless, I'd say the messiness of life is fairly well conveyed in this game. Even though it's a porn parody I do believe the mentality of "Life sim first, porn game second" you mentioned shows and does a lot for making the darker tones explorable (as opposed to pointless shock value or worse) and getting the lighter tones to really shine.

I am glad the game comes across well, that has been one of my focuses personally over the last 9 years. Make a porn parody of a life sim set in Russia. So it has the good and bad of life and everything in between to deal with.

As for the writing, i will say thanks on behalf of the team. I have wrote a fair bit of the game. Especially about the school kids, school and the Uni. So it is always nice to hear when people like and appreciate your effort and work.

 

[Nutluck]

The base game (ETO) is over a decade old, Girl Life is harder to pin down as it was just a translation project for some time. I started about 10 years ago and was doing a lot of translating. Around the time nutluck joined about 9 years ago we started to add new content and a year after that as the previous project leader left and I took over we rebranded as GL.

Well I can tell you when GL changed from a translation to us adding new content. The first new content I added which I think was the first ever added will be 9 years ago this coming August.

 

[Nutluck]

yeah the highway pav diner. don't know who niko is btw.

It will get fleshed out more with the gopnik band story arc. As I plan for them to do gigs at the biker bar nearby and have them hang out a sometimes at the diner afterwards

Niko is a gopnik boy from the Pav school that you can date. A fair bit of his content involves the road side diner.