QSP Girl Life [v0.9.7] [community project]

[Genjurooo]

Extention to Christina storyline

Excited for this. I hope it is good.

btw, I think I mentioned this before, but anyway:
One thing that pissed me off was when starting Sveta as a slut and going on Christina's "pet" route, she runs in shame after forced to give oral to the other girls in the shower with Sonia. I mean Sveta been a slut much longer than stupid Sonia so she should be fine with it and superior to Sonia at that, not run in shame.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Can Sveta actually get expelled from School for being absent three times as Natasha claims? And if so, does that mean she's expelled for good, or just for a limited period?

 

[Genjurooo]

Can Sveta actually get expelled from School for being absent three times as Natasha claims? And if so, does that mean she's expelled for good, or just for a limited period?

for good.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Excited for this. I hope it is good.

btw, I think I mentioned this before, but anyway:
One thing that pissed me off was when starting Sveta as a slut and going on Christina's "pet" route, she runs in shame after forced to give oral to the other girls in the shower with Sonia. I mean Sveta been a slut much longer than stupid Sonia so she should be fine with it and superior to Sonia at that, not run in shame.

A lot of stuff on the slut route doesn't make any sense. Like when she tries to interact with her schoolmates at school and the community centre dance, most of them act like she's got the plague. But if she meets them elsewhere, they act totally normally, as if she's not actually an outcast. For instance, she can meet with Lazar on the sport's field on Friday afternoon and he openly flirts with her, yet a few hours later at the dance, he tells her to keep away from him.

In certain parts of the game, allowances for her being a slut just haven't been made.

What you mention is even more ludicrous if you make a June start, because you've had 3 months before the school term starts, where Sveta has potentially been slutting it up non-stop. She could have been whoring herself out in the City most nights, or at the local Gas Station or even the Brothel just outside Pavlovsk. Not to mention having sex with multiple randoms, Dan, Vitek and Vasily, Olu, Kolka, Anya, Vladimir, Tanya, Kendra, Djbril and his friends and a whole host of other characters. By that stage she can't walk anywhere in Pavlovsk without someone calling her a whore or a slut, and openly approaching her for sex. Like you say, it doesn't make any sense that she would be ashamed in any way. If she felt any significant level of shame, she wouldn't be doing what she was doing.

 

[Nutluck]

And what's new?

To go along with the stuff Kevin listed there is some new random events before and after class at the Uni and random events in the uni's quad as well.

 

[Nutluck]

Excited for this. I hope it is good.

btw, I think I mentioned this before, but anyway:
One thing that pissed me off was when starting Sveta as a slut and going on Christina's "pet" route, she runs in shame after forced to give oral to the other girls in the shower with Sonia. I mean Sveta been a slut much longer than stupid Sonia so she should be fine with it and superior to Sonia at that, not run in shame.

The problem is we have no way to know how you think your Sveta should think. Just because she is a slut doesn't mean she would like to be humiliated, abused, and forced to service all the other girls. A slut just means she enjoys having lots of sex. Until we come up with a system to choose some stuff for personality traits at character creation this will be a problem. Even then it is limited on what we can do. There is all number of ways Sveta could react and we need ways to set which and then write it. Not easy at all to do, as it requires a lot of code, a lot of writing and figuring out how to set those tags.

 

[Nutluck]

Can Sveta actually get expelled from School for being absent three times as Natasha claims? And if so, does that mean she's expelled for good, or just for a limited period?

That is going to get tweaked when family punishment is done. It will become suspended 1 day, then suspended 3 days, then parents called to the school and suspended 1 week. Then it will lead to expulsion or something along those lines, details not set yet.

 

[Nutluck]

A lot of stuff on the slut route doesn't make any sense. Like when she tries to interact with her schoolmates at school and the community centre dance, most of them act like she's got the plague. But if she meets them elsewhere, they act totally normally, as if she's not actually an outcast. For instance, she can meet with Lazar on the sport's field on Friday afternoon and he openly flirts with her, yet a few hours later at the dance, he tells her to keep away from him.

In certain parts of the game, allowances for her being a slut just haven't been made.

What you mention is even more ludicrous if you make a June start, because you've had 3 months before the school term starts, where Sveta has potentially been slutting it up non-stop. She could have been whoring herself out in the City most nights, or at the local Gas Station or even the Brothel just outside Pavlovsk. Not to mention having sex with multiple randoms, Dan, Vitek and Vasily, Olu, Kolka, Anya, Vladimir, Tanya, Kendra, Djbril and his friends and a whole host of other characters. By that stage she can't walk anywhere in Pavlovsk without someone calling her a whore or a slut, and openly approaching her for sex. Like you say, it doesn't make any sense that she would be ashamed in any way. If she felt any significant level of shame, she wouldn't be doing what she was doing.

It takes time to write different versions of events, we only recently got all the chats at school and the disco done. Where based on your social group, slut rep, and how much said NPC likes you they react differently. It has been done in a few other spots as well, but there is more to do.

As I mentioned in the post above, being a slut doesn't mean she can't feel shame. The shame for the shower isn't about just about the sex, but being used, abused, and humiliated. A slut is just a girl that enjoys having sex, doesn't mean she enjoys being treated like a sex object, most happily have sex but on their terms or would rather it be on their terms.

 

[Genjurooo]

The problem is we have no way to know how you think your Sveta should think.

well, i know that event chain was unfinished, but what do you think about it?
1. Leaving it as it is?
2. Giving choices to different outcomes?
3. Forcing outcome based on Sveta stats and traits?

I think number 3 is best. If she has 0 inhibition, max commando, slut over 150 or so and whatever else you can think of, she should be shameless there. My take.

Just because she is a slut doesn't mean she would like to be humiliated, abused, and forced to service all the other girls. A slut just means she enjoys having lots of sex. Until we come up with a system to choose some stuff for personality traits at character creation this will be a problem. Even then it is limited on what we can do. There is all number of ways Sveta could react and we need ways to set which and then write it. Not easy at all to do, as it requires a lot of code, a lot of writing and figuring out how to set those tags.

I don't like this idea. Sveta personality at any given moment in the game (after start) should be based on her choices which should be reflected in the stats. That's how the game is atm too. Some aren't fully implemented though. Look at "character description" > "statistics" >"fetish statistics". A lot of things can be done with those and they work. I mean they are counting, but the "preferences" aren't working. yet.

 

[Nutluck]

well, i know that event chain was unfinished, but what do you think about it?
1. Leaving it as it is?
2. Giving choices to different outcomes?
3. Forcing outcome based on Sveta stats and traits?

I think number 3 is best. If she has 0 inhibition, max commando, slut over 150 or so and whatever else you can think of, she should be shameless there. My take.


I don't like this idea. Sveta personality at any given moment in the game (after start) should be based on her choices which should be reflected in the stats. That's how the game is atm too. Some aren't fully implemented though. Look at "character description" > "statistics" >"fetish statistics". A lot of things can be done with those and they work. I mean they are counting, but the "preferences" aren't working. yet.

That is why I said until we come up with some traits to be chosen at charterer creation or something.
Inhibition = how comfortable Sveta is with nudity, again nothing to do with if she likes being humiliated etc
cammando = how comfortable Sveta is for not wearing panties, still nothing to do with humiliation.
slut rep = is what others think of Sveta. I mean you can get slut rep with out having sex, you just have to do things that make others think you are sleeping around etc and again even if Sveta is a slut, it just means she likes having sex.

We need other traits, something like submissive or masochist etc to track things like that. Which we don't have, which is the problem. The scene in question it is less about the forced sex though for some that would make them upset, but for others it is about the humiliation of it, forced to do stuff, laughed at and treated as less than. So until we have other traits that better reflect that, there is no way to know how the player thinks their Sveta might react to it.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

It takes time to write different versions of events, we only recently got all the chats at school and the disco done. Where based on your social group, slut rep, and how much said NPC likes you they react differently. It has been done in a few other spots as well, but there is more to do.

As I mentioned in the post above, being a slut doesn't mean she can't feel shame. The shame for the shower isn't about just about the sex, but being used, abused, and humiliated. A slut is just a girl that enjoys having sex, doesn't mean she enjoys being treated like a sex object, most happily have sex but on their terms or would rather it be on their terms.

I understand what you're saying, but not all versions of Sveta are like that. By the time that scene happens, Sveta could have experienced scenes far worse than that on a regular basis. Particularly if she works in the Brothel just outside Pavlovsk, has spent time in the Sauna, or has visited the BDSM club in the Suburbs. If she's going to places like that regularly where she now obviously enjoys being used and abused, why would she feel any shame in this instance. But the game just doesn't recognise how those past experiences could have changed her.

Also, it's much the same if she's a succubus. In that case, after a while any sex, whether abusive or not, becomes primarily about feeding. It's not just about pleasure anymore, but getting as much semen and female ejaculate as she can. A succubus would not care one iota about being treated as a sex object, as long as she can feed her almost insatiable hunger. But so often the game, just doesn't recognise that Sveta is a succubus, and therefore likely to have different priorities, and react in a different way.

 

[Kevin Smarts]

I understand what you're saying, but not all versions of Sveta are like that. By the time that scene happens, Sveta could have experienced scenes far worse than that on a regular basis. Particularly if she works in the Brothel just outside Pavlovsk, has spent time in the Sauna, or has visited the BDSM club in the Suburbs. If she's going to places like that regularly where she now obviously enjoys being used and abused, why would she feel any shame in this instance. But the game just doesn't recognise how those past experiences could have changed her.

Also, it's much the same if she's a succubus. In that case, after a while any sex, whether abusive or not, becomes primarily about feeding. It's not just about pleasure anymore, but getting as much semen and female ejaculate as she can. A succubus would not care one iota about being treated as a sex object, as long as she can feed her almost insatiable hunger. But so often the game, just doesn't recognise that Sveta is a succubus, and therefore likely to have different priorities, and react in a different way.

Yeah, but w can't define for sure how Sveta is currentlyin that situation. Now if I ever get teh prefs working that might help but there will also be further things linked to BDSM which might be skills or traits or something else (I've not written a plan for it yet) and it is that which you will train and expand in events like the city misstress, BDSM brothel and BDSM mansion. Its a whole other world of stuff to make and design chariteristics for that we simply haven't got a chance to build yet. Before I can even start on it there is the rest of Anna's storyline and sorting out the staff, opeing hours and adding a lot of events to the BDSM Mansion.

As for the succubus, many events are written without any consideration for that and that is another large project to both seed all the options and different ways events will play out for a Succubus.

We are far from unaware of these things but we can only focus on so many things at one time and building the university drew a lot of manpower to that. We have had a few people struggling or off due to real life prolems so this dev cycle was far from ideal and hope next one is more productive.

 

[yoyodyne]

Bug: Trying on clothing at the Fashionista store requires you to strip to your underwear but when you dress back up, the underwear isn't the same one you put on previously. It defaults to the sports underwear if you have it or you go without.

 

[Genjurooo]

That is why I said until we come up with some traits to be chosen at charterer creation or something.
Inhibition = how comfortable Sveta is with nudity, again nothing to do with if she likes being humiliated etc
cammando = how comfortable Sveta is for not wearing panties, still nothing to do with humiliation.
slut rep = is what others think of Sveta. I mean you can get slut rep with out having sex, you just have to do things that make others think you are sleeping around etc and again even if Sveta is a slut, it just means she likes having sex.

We need other traits, something like submissive or masochist etc to track things like that. Which we don't have, which is the problem. The scene in question it is less about the forced sex though for some that would make them upset, but for others it is about the humiliation of it, forced to do stuff, laughed at and treated as less than. So until we have other traits that better reflect that, there is no way to know how the player thinks their Sveta might react to it.

I don't think submissive or masochist fit either. (without explicitly humiliation).
Next time I start a new game I'll see how good the counters in fetish statistics are and what counts as humiliation there.

 

[Kevin Smarts]

Bug: Trying on clothing at the Fashionista store requires you to strip to your underwear but when you dress back up, the underwear isn't the same one you put one previously. It defaults to the sports underwear if you have it or you go without.

I suspect that its ghosts, will attempt a seance and see if they can be appeased.

They have agreed to my terms and will instead haunt my dreams.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Yeah, but w can't define for sure how Sveta is currentlyin that situation. Now if I ever get teh prefs working that might help but there will also be further things linked to BDSM which might be skills or traits or something else (I've not written a plan for it yet) and it is that which you will train and expand in events like the city misstress, BDSM brothel and BDSM mansion. Its a whole other world of stuff to make and design chariteristics for that we simply haven't got a chance to build yet. Before I can even start on it there is the rest of Anna's storyline and sorting out the staff, opeing hours and adding a lot of events to the BDSM Mansion.

As for the succubus, many events are written without any consideration for that and that is another large project to both seed all the options and different ways events will play out for a Succubus.

We are far from unaware of these things but we can only focus on so many things at one time and building the university drew a lot of manpower to that. We have had a few people struggling or off due to real life prolems so this dev cycle was far from ideal and hope next one is more productive.

I never said that it would be easy to achieve that. I realise that you have a lot of limitations to what you can do, because large areas of the game are still works in progress. And as you say because of various individual issues, different parts of the game are being developed at different paces.

I'm sure you'll get there eventually. It wasn't meant as a negative criticism in any way. In fact I'm in awe of the effort you guys put in to create this alternate reality, which so many of us enjoy

 

[greencat1288]

People, please help, an error in variables pops up when using a PC on a webcam site version 8.3.2, I tried on another version there is a location error.

 

[Walkadav96]

-Rex the dog reintroduced from wlife mod, only works in some homes currently by KS
What kind of house is this I can't understand ?

 

[den_saga]

Was able to decide to Sub/Dom Christina, I'm not getting that now. Is there a new approach to this?

 

[Pilluah]

I accidentally put a good bra in storage... any way to get it out of there? i can see it but i cant take it away from there.

EDIT: Additional questions: what kind of makeup do Gopniks like? What about sluttiness, in wikia it says gopniks want Sveta to dress slutty for party, but from my experience you can't become complete slut.