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YugataKisu

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no one takes you seriously because you don't give any serious points. I suppose I can break this down for you;

-You have no source and make general unbased assumptions, anyone could do the same: "majority of people in the world dislike skinny women in femdom and vanilla content, based on what I hear people say online and from interviews I've had with men who solicite prostitutes" see how dumb that looks?
-I've never seen anyone flame more on the ToT thread trying to start a "Jessica War LuL" than you do, posting low effort memes hoping to antagonize someone, hell you started the idiotic posting that got the thread locked for a few days
-That's completely subjective and holds no water, "Skinny mistresses do not fit the female combatant role adding them would break immersion"

generally if you want to have a constructive back and forth you have to communicate maturely and have valid points to debate. "I don't like this and anyone who does is delusional. lol look at this meme" won't exactly stoke any intellectual conversation. I hope you don't take this as a "personal attack" I'm hoping you're able to self reflect and see why you don't ever get any responses beyond ad hominin. Unfortunately I think you'll take this poorly considering you're making this about "winning" and your previous posts obsessing about attacking anyone who shows that they just may have a different view of things than you.

To keep this on topic, dev I love the game so far. The dialogue between the MC and first opponent is really well done!
source was provided by DogStar if you check most popular models on femdom amateur porn sites such as iwantclips and manyvids you will see all top models are not fat youd have to go to page 104 to find the first fat girl if sorted by popularity also it's just common knowledge really it's no coincedence that fashion models and actresses look the way they look and i don't see why the mainstream taste should not be applied to femdom

now you are spreading false information, the thread did not get locked because of a jessica debate but because of a gay slur debate where if someone remembers i did not start the debate nor stepped out of a line but simply joined in because that is a topic that also effects me the worst thing ive said was ''you lack empathy if you are ok with using slurs'' other users then kept using slurs and started to compare things to hitler

also i haven't once said the word skinny yet you always try to paint me like someone that says everything besides skinny is bad i've said numerous times that id like to see a variety types of bodys that the mainstream finds attractive hourglass figure, athletic, busty and so on but that's something you always do if anyone doesn't like your fat girl fetish they must be only into twigs right?

edit: also idk why you always try to make up things about me like nobody takes me serious, when people do engage into debates with me all the time but it's not my fault that people rather ignore my points and just spew some bullshit because they lack any argumentation , or are you seriously gonna hold me accountable for how and what lakano types? again DarkCodex showed that if you actually debate with me each side can find points of the different site they can agree with but you guys always have to make it personal because of your dislike for me and if you come at me with that stupid shit i have no problems to get personal as well and a lot of people do agree with me in this case even the dev so eat your heart out
 
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lakano

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source was provided by DogStar if you check most popular models on femdom amateur porn sites such as iwantclips and manyvids you will see all top models are not fat youd have to go to page 104 to find the first fat girl if sorted by popularity also it's just common knowledge really it's no coincedence that fashion models and actresses look the way they look and i don't see why the mainstream taste should not be applied to femdom

now you are spreading false information, the thread did not get locked because of a jessica debate but because of a gay slur debate where if someone remembers i did not start the debate nor stepped out of a line but simply joined in because that is a topic that also effects me the worst thing ive said was ''you lack empathy if you are ok with using slurs'' other users then kept using slurs and started to compare things to hitler

also i haven't once said the word skinny yet you always try to paint me like someone that says everything besides skinny is bad i've said numerous times that id like to see a variety types of bodys that the mainstream finds attractive hourglass figure, athletic, busty and so on but that's something you always do if anyone doesn't like your fat girl fetish they must be only into twigs right?

edit: also idk why you always try to make up things about me like nobody takes me serious, when people do engage into debates with me all the time but it's not my fault that people rather ignore my points and just spew some bullshit because they lack any argumentation , or are you seriously gonna hold me accountable for how and what lakano types? again DarkCodex showed that if you actually debate with me each side can find points of the different site they can agree with but you guys always have to make it personal because of your dislike for me and if you come at me with that stupid shit i have no problems to get personal as well and a lot of people do agree with me in this case even the dev so eat your heart out
Holy fucking shit for the love of the nine divines the builder and allah shut the fuck up and dont clog the thread like tot you dont like bbws even i dont but dont turn this into a ben shapiro esque rant the dev alresdy said no bbws i genuinlly try to read your fucking essays but give up halfway through because its insane your like that wierdo who makes a scene at the airport and everyone has to be part of it did a fat woman eat your dog or some shit ? ...cease i beg of you
 

YugataKisu

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Holy fucking shit for the love of the nine divines the builder and allah shut the fuck up and dont clog the thread like tot you dont like bbws even i dont but dont turn this into a ben shapiro esque rant the dev alresdy said no bbws i genuinlly try to read your fucking essays but give up halfway through because its insane your like that wierdo who makes a scene at the airport and everyone has to be part of it did a fat woman eat your dog or some shit ? ...cease i beg of you
oh now you want to put the topic to rest wasn't it you that kept barking at me like a dog even tho i said ''lets put this topic to rest'' right after dev posted while i flat out ignored you because nothing you've said made any sense? mAjOriTy oF pEoPLe dOnt mInd a bIt oF bElly yeah aight that's why people go on diets and pay fees to workout in a gym
 
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source was provided by DogStar if you check most popular models on femdom amateur porn sites such as iwantclips and manyvids you will see all top models are not fat youd have to go to page 104 to find the first fat girl if sorted by popularity also it's just common knowledge really it's no coincedence that fashion models and actresses look the way they look and i don't see why the mainstream taste should not be applied to femdom

now you are spreading false information, the thread did not get locked because of a jessica debate but because of a gay slur debate where if someone remembers i did not start the debate nor stepped out of a line but simply joined in because that is a topic that also effects me the worst thing ive said was ''you lack empathy if you are ok with using slurs'' other users then kept using slurs and started to compare things to hitler

also i haven't once said the word skinny yet you always try to paint me like someone that says everything besides skinny is bad i've said numerous times that id like to see a variety types of bodys that the mainstream finds attractive hourglass figure, athletic, busty and so on but that's something you always do if anyone doesn't like your fat girl fetish they must be only into twigs right?

edit: also idk why you always try to make up things about me like nobody takes me serious, when people do engage into debates with me all the time but it's not my fault that people rather ignore my points and just spew some bullshit because they lack any argumentation , or are you seriously gonna hold me accountable for how and what lakano types? again DarkCodex showed that if you actually debate with me each side can find points of the different site they can agree with but you guys always have to make it personal because of your dislike for me and if you come at me with that stupid shit i have no problems to get personal as well and a lot of people do agree with me in this case even the dev so eat your heart out
Dogstar? The band? what? I'm going to reference the most mainstream porn site there is: pornhub and I notice that there are 2 "Heavier" girls in the top 20: Angela White (#9 top model) and Violet Myers (#16) There were more that I would consider up there but were more on the line so I won't mention them. And bbw models are so popular right now, go to any target or clothing store and you will see a huge variety of model shapes and sizes.

I'll just take your word for the thread being locked thing, mainly because I don't care enough and that was just one example. My main point being that you are the one who starts most of the antagonizing by actively trying to stoke a "jessica war"

You've completely missed the point of the skinny thing, idk if you have me mixed up with someone else with all your uses of the "you always say this, you always say that" thing. I could've have used any adjective for a woman, skinny is just what came to mind, I'll replace skinny with blonde hair then, it's not my point. I'm saying that you're opinion that they don't fit a combat role and break immersion was subjective. I'm beginning to see that you like to gaslight and play the victim. (not meaning that as a dig at you, I'm just noticing that because you seem to be shifting a lot of anger and preconceived notions at me) I had a feeling this was a waste of time as soon as I started writing my first reply to you, but I'm not quite ready to give up on you yet. I'm going to say again that this isn't a personal attack I'm looking at your points and I'm refuting them.

Also very strange that you projected a bbw fetish onto me, I haven't once mentioned that or hinted at it and even if I did that's pretty off subject no? Like what exactly would that change? Does that make any of my points invalid? Along those lines, why does it matter who agrees with you, this isn't a popularity contest or high school, because some people "liked" your post or commented that they agree with you doesn't make you right, it just means those people like what you said. "oh lakano liked my post, that means I'm right, checkmate!" think about it my man. I'm also not even referencing the dev's involvement, this is solely on how you're acting, the dev could put whatever they like in the game it's their project.

You're free to like whatever it is that you like and everyone else is as well without fear of being mocked. That's my argument for you and really all I'm trying to get across to you. Instead of saying something like, "Everyone who likes this body type is delusional, there's a reason society finds BBWs so disgusting" try either simply not saying anything and going about your day comforted in the knowledge that there is many different perspectives on life and feel happy knowing that makes yours all the more unique, or maybe a little something like "Woah, that's an interesting viewpoint, not one I share, but interesting none the less!"

I hope this doesn't upset you king, I'm honestly just seeing a lot of lashing out from you and legitimately trying to help you self reflect. It's hard to convey these points online without it possibly seeming like I'm trying to "beat" you or prove that I'm better than you in some weird kind of way, and I'm only saying this because I've noticed that is how you view these kind of interactions. They seem unhealthy and reductive to a happy outlook on life and I really like to help people like that because I was very much so like that when I was younger. Just to reiterate, nothing about what I'm saying to you is an attack on your person, just your outlooks and points that you've brought up.

edit: To keep this post also on topic, dev, your art is absolutely wonderful and shows true talent!

edit 2: Also check out Crystal Lust on pornhub, she's thick as hell and in the top 10
 

lakano

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oh now you want to put the topic to rest wasn't it you that kept barking at me like a dog even tho i said ''lets put this topic to rest'' right after dev posted while i flat out ignored you because nothing you've said made any sense? mAjOriTy oF pEoPLe dOnt mInd a bIt oF bElly yeah aight that's why people go on diets and pay fees to workout in a gym
You are terminally american no the rest kf the world dosent eat overproduced burgers and uses mobilety scooters
 
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Dogstar? The band? what? I'm going to reference the most mainstream porn site there is: pornhub and I notice that there are 2 "Heavier" girls in the top 20: Angela White (#9 top model) and Violet Myers (#16) There were more that I would consider up there but were more on the line so I won't mention them. And bbw models are so popular right now, go to any target or clothing store and you will see a huge variety of model shapes and sizes.

I'll just take your word for the thread being locked thing, mainly because I don't care enough and that was just one example. My main point being that you are the one who starts most of the antagonizing by actively trying to stoke a "jessica war"

You've completely missed the point of the skinny thing, idk if you have me mixed up with someone else with all your uses of the "you always say this, you always say that" thing. I could've have used any adjective for a woman, skinny is just what came to mind, I'll replace skinny with blonde hair then, it's not my point. I'm saying that you're opinion that they don't fit a combat role and break immersion was subjective. I'm beginning to see that you like to gaslight and play the victim. (not meaning that as a dig at you, I'm just noticing that because you seem to be shifting a lot of anger and preconceived notions at me) I had a feeling this was a waste of time as soon as I started writing my first reply to you, but I'm not quite ready to give up on you yet. I'm going to say again that this isn't a personal attack I'm looking at your points and I'm refuting them.

Also very strange that you projected a bbw fetish onto me, I haven't once mentioned that or hinted at it and even if I did that's pretty off subject no? Like what exactly would that change? Does that make any of my points invalid? Along those lines, why does it matter who agrees with you, this isn't a popularity contest or high school, because some people "liked" your post or commented that they agree with you doesn't make you right, it just means those people like what you said. "oh lakano liked my post, that means I'm right, checkmate!" think about it my man. I'm also not even referencing the dev's involvement, this is solely on how you're acting, the dev could put whatever they like in the game it's their project.

You're free to like whatever it is that you like and everyone else is as well without fear of being mocked. That's my argument for you and really all I'm trying to get across to you. Instead of saying something like, "Everyone who likes this body type is delusional, there's a reason society finds BBWs so disgusting" try either simply not saying anything and going about your day comforted in the knowledge that there is many different perspectives on life and feel happy knowing that makes yours all the more unique, or maybe a little something like "Woah, that's an interesting viewpoint, not one I share, but interesting none the less!"

I hope this doesn't upset you king, I'm honestly just seeing a lot of lashing out from you and legitimately trying to help you self reflect. It's hard to convey these points online without it possibly seeming like I'm trying to "beat" you or prove that I'm better than you in some weird kind of way, and I'm only saying this because I've noticed that is how you view these kind of interactions. They seem unhealthy and reductive to a happy outlook on life and I really like to help people like that because I was very much so like that when I was younger. Just to reiterate, nothing about what I'm saying to you is an attack on your person, just your outlooks and points that you've brought up.

edit: To keep this post also on topic, dev, your art is absolutely wonderful and shows true talent!

edit 2: Also check out Crystal Lust on pornhub, she's thick as hell and in the top 10
You're wasting your time bro. This guy is always on the tot thread as well and best thing you can do is avoid.
 

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You are terminally american no the rest kf the world dosent eat overproduced burgers and uses mobilety scooters
To be fair where I'm originally from (a small-ish country in Eastern Europe) far fewer people than in the west work out, jog or pay gym memberships, (I think you are Russian if I remember past interactions we've had on an old femdom games thread but I might misremember) so you'd be right that he's "terminally American" if he thinks those practices are common worldwide, but then again most men in my part of the world are not into bbw or "a bit of belly" either... That's mostly anecdotal evidence so it doesn't prove anything, but I tend to believe that YugataKisu is right about men usually not being attracted to overweight women.

That said, I wouldn't waste time arguing for any of this without proper studies/evidence, (especially as this varies greatly across cultures and for example there are many polynesian and pacific cultures where overweight women are traditionally seen as the most attractive...) as I don't even care what the sexual preferences of most men in any society are and when it comes to erotica and porn I only care about femdom content anyways, in which I think we get a majority of slim women and wouldn't mind people that are into bbw also getting some content tailored to their tastes... Honestly I think it's best not to keep arguing with him on this particular topic, as he seems to just hate people who like bbw or even the idea of them getting optional content, (like Jessica or Khulan in ToT, who I just chose to ignore completely because I'm not at all into bbw and focused on my favourite mistresses like Lady Cobra or the 2nd floor one) so you probably won't reach any consensus with him on this and will just clog up this thread for a good promising game with your fruitless damned-from-the-start argument!
 

YugataKisu

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but i live in norway, scandinavia in general is very progressive in eating healthy and working out so it might be a cultural shock for me i admit i lack the viewpoint of other countries and their beauty standards. also idk where this guy got american from but i guess anyone that even remotely paid attention in english class is american for him, anyway this is going no where as this guy now wants to go on an anti-american rant or something, besides the dev seems to agree with me so it all doesn't matter anyway

all i wanna say there is a difference between being thicc and being obese that's why i never had a problem with khulan that's like saying all strongman are fat that's simply not true they are just big
my problem is strictly with obese characters dobule chin and hanging gut belly i wanna clarify this because it seems like some people actually missunderstand me
 
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DogStar

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Dogstar? The band? what?
Hey, sup? I provided IWC's top producers list as proof that the general taste in the femdom world is the same as the normal world, which is definitely skinny fit women. BBW models exist but it's mostly due to backlash from society asking to represent a wider range of people, so that women don't feel as much pressure to be excessively thin. They weren't really there for other reasons. Besides, clothes will always look better on a small person with almost no curves because of proportionality/symmetry.

It's normal that some BBW appear in top 20s, as they do cater to a specific taste, but they are definitely not the most popular and the norm. That's all I gotta say.
 

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are you chubby chasers literally insane? it's like you are trying to be delusional, no arguments?
lemme recap then
- majority of people in the world dislikes BBW content in femdom and vanilla content, based on media potrayal and femdom sexworkers
- people that do like BBWs are a vocal minority that keep talking about BBWs creating the illusion that people like it
- fat mistresses do not fit the female combatant role adding them would break immersion

but what have been you peoples argument besides ''gRoW up'' and ''yOurE pAthEtiC'' and facepalming my posts, amazing arguments guys attacking me on a personal level because i dislike your niche fetish that most people in the world find gross
you are forcing your fetish upon people, EVEN AFTER THE DEV HERSELF SAID SHES NOT GONNA ADD IT and instead of finally caving in and accepting that i won you completely ignore it and prove my point that you just keep talking about BBWs no matter what because in your fucked up mind you cannot fathom that most people does not like them

the only person that even argumented with me was DarkCodex, the rest of ya? i aint even gonna say something cuz i would step out of line
There is a difference between not liking something and being unreasonably hostile to it. For example, I dislike rope and leather but I don't feel the need to go into rage mode every time a character uses a whip or flogger.
 

lakano

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To be fair where I'm originally from (a small-ish country in Eastern Europe) far fewer people than in the west work out, jog or pay gym memberships, (I think you are Russian if I remember past interactions we've had on an old femdom games thread but I might misremember) so you'd be right that he's "terminally American" if he thinks those practices are common worldwide, but then again most men in my part of the world are not into bbw or "a bit of belly" either... That's mostly anecdotal evidence so it doesn't prove anything, but I tend to believe that YugataKisu is right about men usually not being attracted to overweight women.

That said, I wouldn't waste time arguing for any of this without proper studies/evidence, (especially as this varies greatly across cultures and for example there are many polynesian and pacific cultures where overweight women are traditionally seen as the most attractive...) as I don't even care what the sexual preferences of most men in any society are and when it comes to erotica and porn I only care about femdom content anyways, in which I think we get a majority of slim women and wouldn't mind people that are into bbw also getting some content tailored to their tastes... Honestly I think it's best not to keep arguing with him on this particular topic, as he seems to just hate people who like bbw or even the idea of them getting optional content, (like Jessica or Khulan in ToT, who I just chose to ignore completely because I'm not at all into bbw and focused on my favourite mistresses like Lady Cobra or the 2nd floor one) so you probably won't reach any consensus with him on this and will just clog up this thread for a good promising game with your fruitless damned-from-the-start argument!
Most men i know prefer thicker girls its not a exact science and i dknt need exact science holy fucking shit
 

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Stop your senseless flaming bois, and focus more on the game discussion.
You will not change anybodys oppinion by insulting them.
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I do like the "peasant woman" drawing. That one would make for a great character.
 

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Everytime when theres drama there will always be yugata. Good content
to my defence, i was challenged
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but yea let's leave it at that and just wait for the new update, also I hope it is ok if i share a patreon post but i thought this might be interesting news on here ''In response to some debates in Discord and on F95zone, I'm going to lower the prices of all voting tiers to make polling more accessible and their results more democratic. This will be done right after this version is released.'' so at least debating for this game actually results into something! big ups to the dev
 
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to my defence, i was challenged
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but yea let's leave it at that and just wait for the new update, also I hope it is ok if i share a patreon post but i thought this might be interesting news on here ''In response to some debates in Discord and on F95zone, I'm going to lower the prices of all voting tiers to make polling more accessible and their results more democratic. This will be done right after this version is released.'' so at least debating for this game actually results into something! big ups to the dev
i was challenged
I know
 
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