RPGM Abandoned Gladia [v0.5.1] [Lina Sylph]

[Succubus Hunter]

I swear to god with you people just ignore all my points just to hurls some dumbass insult towards me ill quote mself in bold just to make sure everyone gets the message across ''of course my jessica hate is sometimes exaggerated for comedic effect'' its like y'all havin no social skills to pick up on social cues.

and no her size is not normal in the real world i also had this discussion she has at least 35% body fat which is overweight

I think you are in the wrong thread. This is the world of Gladia, Jessica's big butt can't hurt you here.


As for including a BBW in this game, I still think a big bratty noblewoman would make sense as well as fulfill the interest in bbw goodness. It doesn't matter how much the society relies on muscle if she's the kind of rich bitch who can "Just have the maid do it". She's the kind of woman who always gets what she wants and if MC doesn't want to please her right now now now, he can catch a coinpurse to the face until he gets on his back and starts giving her what she wants. <3

 

[Platinum_Flame]

People tend to enter the discussion to suggest their niche desires. The developer stated in the earlier pages that they want their game to be more "community driven" and that they'll implement fetishes which are popularly requested. While this is not inherently a bad idea, a community can differ depending on where you are asking for the feedback. If you go to a website which is designed for people who fetishize women who look like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime, and you want their suggestions, you know what kind of suggestion you're going to get.

In the case of F95, the website is not designed for any specific type of person. But a vocal minority still exists here and can still effectively convince someone that something is popular when it isn't. Fortunately, reading the thread, the developer is aware of this and only really plans to add the other stuff once the game is better fleshed out so that everybody can enjoy it first. As they say, it'll come later as expansions to the mistresses.

But, you can see it in this thread itself in regards to BBW and "fat worship" being added, for example. And someone asking if something like scat is planned to be involved, or if it would be avoidable if so. This is all evidence of vocal minority groups having a presence elsewhere that we now need to ask "is X going to be added? Will it be avoidable?" And yes, the sexual desire for BBW/larger-set ladies that we see in games like ToT and UTW is heavily a fetish and not exactly mainstream. I know people disagree with that.

They ask for plans of futanari, plans for scat and farting, etc. They are a minority group so of course, they are not so commonly seen unless you are perhaps looking for them. They also don't exist solely on F95. But they are still vocal, probably because they understand the only way to achieve any sort of acknowledgement is to have the confidence (or desperation?) to ask, or to have the money to pay for those additions themselves if developer(s) are allowing people to pay to suggest what they should do next.

Vocal and overly vocal are two different terms. Do you suggest that they should be forbidden to ask or suggest anything related to their fetishes? Also something may not be popular in general but popular within a certain community. If something is asked for a lot then obviously it is popular within active participants of that community.

 

[Platinum_Flame]

imo bo thinks people like his slob shit because thats what all the people around him tell him when the majority dislikes jessica and prefer lily

Did you conduct some kind of poll or something? Why do you assume that you are always in the majority? If something is suggested a lot then it is largely represented in that community.

Also who has said that the dev should always do what the majority wants him to? If it's dev's kink and he wants to add it why shouldn't he?

 

[YugataKisu]

Also who has said that the dev should always do what the majority wants him to? If it's dev's kink and he wants to add it why shouldn't he?

because in this case the dev actually asks what the community wants, instead of a certain someone who will just add scat because he's like one of the very very few people that like it.
and i do think that the people that play and support your game have a right to be included in decisions

If something is asked for a lot then obviously it is popular within active participants of that community.

well here's the thing apparently its not asked by a lot, but the one who do are just the most persistent that's what we mean with vocal minority

I think you are in the wrong thread. This is the world of Gladia, Jessica's big butt can't hurt you here.

ToT has been referenced numerous times on here as this game clearly borrowed quite a lot from it so it should not be a suprise that they have an overlapse in community people used jessica as an example as to what they don't want

Did you conduct some kind of poll or something? Why do you assume that you are always in the majority? If something is suggested a lot then it is largely represented in that community.

why do you always think you're in the majority?
but ill tell you why i think that i am in the majority

because unlike you and most people in the world we are not attracted to ''BBW'' for us theres no such thing as a big beautiful women, regardless of the genre, community or gender 9/10 people would pick the left character over that blob on the right
you have a fetish for ''BBW'' and that's fine but don't force it upon others that's all im asking otherwise every niche fetish group will make it into the game just because a small minority in the community cry enough about it

 

[lakano]

I swear to god with you people just ignore all my points just to hurls some dumbass insult towards me ill quote mself in bold just to make sure everyone gets the message across ''of course my jessica hate is sometimes exaggerated for comedic effect'' its like y'all havin no social skills to pick up on social cues.

and no her size is not normal in the real world i also had this discussion she has at least 35% body fat which is overweight

So the its a jole defense how the fuck am i suposed to know where your real opinion begins this is just sad

 

[lakano]

because in this case the dev actually asks what the community wants, instead of a certain someone who will just add scat because he's like one of the very very few people that like it.
and i do think that the people that play and support your game have a right to be included in decisions


well here's the thing apparently its not asked by a lot, but the one who do are just the most persistent that's what we mean with vocal minority



ToT has been referenced numerous times on here as this game clearly borrowed quite a lot from it so it should not be a suprise that they have an overlapse in community people used jessica as an example as to what they don't want


why do you always think you're in the majority?
but ill tell you why i think that i am in the majority
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because unlike you and most people in the world we are not attracted to ''BBW'' for us theres no such thing as a big beautiful women, regardless of the genre, community or gender 9/10 people would pick the left character over that blob on the right
you have a fetish for ''BBW'' and that's fine but don't force it upon others that's all im asking otherwise every niche fetish group will make it into the game just because a small minority in the community cry enough about it

This a fantastic copy pasta absolutely ficking seething

Beither of these women are realistic a shit ton of men are atracted to women with more weight infact billions

I dont happen to be one of them but damn you are just wrong

 

[YugataKisu]

So the its a jole defense how the fuck am i suposed to know where your real opinion begins this is just sad

so you admit that you are unable to detect exaggeration proving my point about you not being able to pick up on social cues? okay but that's not my problem.

This a fantastic copy pasta absolutely ficking seething

Beither of these women are realistic a shit ton of men are atracted to women with more weight infact billions

I dont happen to be one of them but damn you are just wrong

this was never a discussion about wether the bodytypes are realistic or not? you seem generally confused, man are into what the internet calls ''thicc'' but don't get it confused with fat, thicc is just the modern slang for an hourglass figure meaning big bust, small waist and gut, thick thighs that's what people call nice curves which you get from eating and then working out for definition but fat/overweight people don't have a body like that their entire body is fat there are no curves they just a blob

but if you really do mean fat I doubt that the number of chubbychasers are in the billions a realistic number would be around 700mio and that's me being generous

 

[Nait Sieve]

YugataKisu dude, i think at this point everyone got your preferences and what your assumptions are. you being this vocal about it will likely not change anyones mind, including the devs.

 

[Platinum_Flame]

because unlike you and most people in the world we are not attracted to ''BBW'' for us theres no such thing as a big beautiful women, regardless of the genre, community or gender 9/10 people would pick the left character over that blob on the right
you have a fetish for ''BBW'' and that's fine but don't force it upon others that's all im asking otherwise every niche fetish group will make it into the game just because a small minority in the community cry enough about it

Classic "if you defend it, you are a part of it" assumption. I am not personally attracted to BBW. But how exactly do you know how many players of tot are attracted to it vs those who aren't? As I already said, you just assumed that you are in the majority. "Ill tell you why I think I'm in the majority" - you didn't. You just stated that you are. You just said that most of people would pick this over that.

 

[Platinum_Flame]

so you admit that you are unable to detect exaggeration proving my point about you not being able to pick up on social cues? okay but that's not my problem.

Sarcasm is very difficult to convey in text considering just how many stupid people are there. What you say in exaggeration someone else may say fully seriously.

 

[YugataKisu]

I am not personally attracted to BBW.

well that makes already 2 of us proving my point

jokes aside it is pretty obvious that in our society the ideal woman body type is not overweight, more people are into fit bodies then chubby/fat bodies do you not agree with me? now if we apply that to a smaller scale numbers may vary, like if you do a poll about if you like feet in a foot fetish community of course its gonna be higher then if we include all communities but considering this game wasn't meant as a BBW game we can apply the general public imo as this game will mostly attract the femdom/foot fetish community and in general people are not attracted to fat girls the prove is all over media

 

[Platinum_Flame]

jokes aside it is pretty obvious that in our society the ideal woman body type is not overweight, more people are into fit bodies then chubby/fat bodies do you not agree with me?

I do. More people in society are into fit bodies than chubby.

considering this game wasn't meant as a BBW game we can apply the general public

Now here I disagree. First of all we can't apply it to general public because this game does have a target audience, at least of people that are into femdom. Now within femdom I'm not sure how many people are into BBW. Also if a game depicts certain things, it already skews the audience towards people who like that things.

 

[YugataKisu]

this game does have a target audience, at least of people that are into femdom. Now within femdom I'm not sure how many people are into BBW. Also if a game depicts certain things, it already skews the audience towards people who like that things.

I agree with that, but i believe that people that are into femdom tend to like the fit hourglass body i can't prove it and we can't know for sure unless we do a poll so i'll just apply the general public preferences to it

second point, the game does not have any BBW tags in it what it does have is ''female muscle'' to me that sounds like chun li legs not santa's belly, but i can't lie i do understand your point the first mistress is kinda heavier so tag or not people that are into BBW will be attracted to this game, to me the first mistress is still on the limit of just looking very strong kinda like a female strongman and i would be fine with it if some future mistresses follow her bodytype, what i do not wish for is that gladia just becomes a BBW game and just keeps adding fatter and fatter mistresses

 

[robtbo]

Lina Sylph Only 2 official enemies so far and THIS is the shitshow your audience puts on for you lol
Just do what you want. This whole audience participation thing is overrated, although the occasional fanservice as a reward for dedication will promote further loyalty. I trust your judgement so far

 

[lakano]

so you admit that you are unable to detect exaggeration proving my point about you not being able to pick up on social cues? okay but that's not my problem.


this was never a discussion about wether the bodytypes are realistic or not? you seem generally confused, man are into what the internet calls ''thicc'' but don't get it confused with fat, thicc is just the modern slang for an hourglass figure meaning big bust, small waist and gut, thick thighs that's what people call nice curves which you get from eating and then working out for definition but fat/overweight people don't have a body like that their entire body is fat there are no curves they just a blob

but if you really do mean fat I doubt that the number of chubbychasers are in the billions a realistic number would be around 700mio and that's me being generous

Too long dident read keep seething about games not having gour perfect anime waifus also if you use the joke defense nithing you say means anything you just hide behind OH ITS JUST A JOKE

 

[YugataKisu]

Too long dident read keep seething about games not having gour perfect anime waifus also if you use the joke defense nithing you say means anything you just hide behind OH ITS JUST A JOKE

my guy i didn't wanna be mean but if you come at me like that
nothing YOU say means anything as i can't take you serious when you type like some 14 year old raging kid on xbox live from sri lanka. just let the adults talk or try to hit the right letters instead of fuming out of anger with teary eyes making you missspell every second word. this ain't the place for personal attacks and you clearly aren't made for discussions so either calm down or leave

 

[lakano]

my guy i didn't wanna be mean but if you come at me like that
nothing YOU say means anything as i can't take you serious when you type like some 14 year old raging kid on xbox live from sri lanka. just let the adults talk or try to hit the right letters instead of fuming out of anger with teary eyes making you missspell every second word. this ain't the place for personal attacks and you clearly aren't made for discussions so either calm down or leave

Again to long dident read keep writing seething essays

 

[DogStar]

I agree with that, but i believe that people that are into femdom tend to like the fit hourglass body i can't prove it and we can't know for sure unless we do a poll so i'll just apply the general public preferences to it

If you want a general idea, just look at the IWC top list of fetish producers and it should give you a general idea of what people are into. Candy Glitter, Eva de Vil, Princess Miki and DGJ always top the charts and they are hourglass shaped, athletic or skinny, definitely not BBW. So the beauty standard is pretty much the same in femdom vs "normal" life, except with more extremes. That should prove your point plenty

 

[Lina Sylph]

I've actually been reading this thread every day. I appreciate everyone's passion over what goes into the game, and what I'm going to do about it is lower the price of every 'voting' patron tier by quite a good amount once this next update comes out so that more people have a direct say.

This way, nobody will feel like a small, vocal minority of people are dictating anything. Please also remember that if I don't want to put something in the game, I'm just not going to include it. It's partially that I wouldn't be any good at writing or designing a character that I dislike, partially that I like how these two body types look and partially that I feel like they are 'two ends' of a central amount of appeal most people can enjoy.

So, if you like what's in the game so far, please just be rest assured that that's what 90+% of the characters will look like (and 100% of the main enemies / Mistresses) varying degrees of 'model-like' fit/thin, with a moderate portion of 'stronger' girls like Edela, (or the Viking which is planned) mixed in.

I love Tower of Trample, but with regards to Jessica specifically, yeah I will never include a Mistress or even a minor character who looks like this. It's fine if you like it, it's just not what I feel like putting in the game. Attached is a picture of a minor character being added - this is as 'thick' as any of them will ever be, and she will perhaps be the only one, as it fits her character. I suppose also attached are the other two minor characters for this version, and then finally, Liora, the Mistress of the one after this. There's a 'thick' one, a strong one, a thin one, and then Liora will be another with a body type similar to Maeve.

With regards to it being a 'community-driven' game, it's that I do consider everyone's suggestions, and each Mistress / minor character will be chosen by poll. However, everything within each poll is either something I approved of that one of you came up with, or it's something I came up with myself. Attached is a screenshot of some suggestions I liked so much that I will include them in future polls, or will outright just put them in the game if they won't take too many resources.

I hope this clears a few things up, and just don't feel bad for mentioning any of this, it's all fine - I just thought I should say this now since this has been going on for a few pages.

 

[Skainy]

This game is awesome, perfect in different ways. ll defenitively keep an eye when a full version will be available