VN Ren'Py Completed Good Girl Gone Bad [v1.2 Jasmin DLC] [Eva Kiss]

[HolyMolly]

I have to say even if I like this VN overall: re-using old scenes in a different context later in the game as we can see is this preview is extremely lazy. Also Eva has been pretty lazy theses pasts updates when it comes to sex scenes imo they are too repetitives and lacking good erotic and original situations. Need new and more locations like Jack's strip club, enough of the same bedrooms.

 

[js00906]

I would like to see some actual BDSM in the game, but not have it shown in a negative way, like how Sunstone comic shows it. Of course, I doubt that Eva would make it as most mainstream perception of it is this harder than hardcore porno version. But it would be nice to explore Dom Ash options, since most of the time she's seen as submissive.

 

[introvtx]

I'm still confused about Eric... what affects whether he comes back a wimp or a badass? Is it possible for him to be actually dead? What happens if you stay loyal to him and never have sex with anyone else? Does he come back and how is he then? And what happens if you agree to wait for him but then cheat on him a lot BUT never tell him about it?

Also some missed opportunities so far in the game
1) have Jessica involed somehow if bad Ash sabotages Eva's relationship, in general more could've been done with animosity between Eva and Jes
2) more scenarios for good Ashley playthrough where she gets abused... I know how this sounds, but it seems logical if having good Ashley and thug Eva, if their friendship if ruined, to set up a scenario in which Ash does something (with good intentions) to make Eva hate her and Eva retaliates by setting up Ash for getting raped by the gang, for example. I know there are already a few scenarios like that, with Jasmin forcing herself upon Ash, and now Arthur drugging her, but possibilities with good Ash getting hurt by bad Eva or Jessica... man. And getting raped by the gang seems logical considering how they are and that good Ash is in conflict with them. As for getting drugged, having Jack or even some random club douche slipping Ash a roofie is also a missed chance. Getting drunk in general... Ash getting drunk during truth or dare should result in getting banged by Jack (and having a blackout about it, maybe finding out later when seeing a phone recording of her servicing Jack like bad Eva does) instead of simply driven home. Rape, blackmail... Also addiction, but not like bas Ash addiction, more like getting hooked up on a drug and then having sex for it (or to get money for it) while hating herself for it and feeling dirty and disgusted.
3) good Ashley inner monologues. In general, contrary to logic, good Ashley playthrough could've been possibly more sick, corrupt and arousing than the complete whore bad Ash. Put her in horrible situations and/or have her give in to temptations AND feel really guilty about it. Sort of a inner battle against the inner slut.
4) possibility for Ash to be bad on the inside but act good and innocent on the outside. Kinda like most real life girls. Slutty behing closed doors when not judged and then sweet and shiny and lovely good girls in public. Plus inner monologues for Ash in those situations. We only got a brief, brief glimpse of that when setting up Eva for sabotaging her relationship with bad Ash pretending to be good.

Or course there could've been a lot more scenarios in general in the game, like Ash becoming anything from a high-class escort, amateur escort to porn star, street walker or even a crack whore, but it's not a big team working on this project so it's unreasonable to expect such stuff, since there's already so many possible routes. But more inner emotional turmoil for good Ash and possibilities for player to set up good Ash to get used and abused could've been done. Sorta an involuntary corruption path.

I agree with the thug Eva have the gang rape Ashley, I want to talk about this but since its not my main playthrough so I just kinda forgot
Thug Eva is just gone, disappeared later in the game, I thought it could be much more.

I have to say even if I like this VN overall: re-using old scenes in a different context later in the game as we can see is this preview is extremely lazy. Also Eva has been pretty lazy theses pasts updates when it comes to sex scenes imo they are too repetitives and lacking good erotic and original situations. Need new and more locations like Jack's strip club, enough of the same bedrooms.

Well, this is one long game with so many branching route and choices which makes it more complex than most of other game so I can see why some would call it repetitive, but with how fast and constant EK in updating it I'm not complaining and she could really be burned out at this point. And remember, Patreon supporters can actually influence how the game goes, sometimes not the way the devs originaly intended I expect, this can gives the devs headache

As long as EK can progress the story I'm happy. I mean most of the route don't have ending yet and there some not even really started, Mom and Ethan route for example, this I expect will give us something new, I'm also curious with what EK will do with Hugo.

I would like to see some actual BDSM in the game, but not have it shown in a negative way, like how Sunstone comic shows it. Of course, I doubt that Eva would make it as most mainstream perception of it is this harder than hardcore porno version. But it would be nice to explore Dom Ash options, since most of the time she's seen as submissive.

Maybe we will see some BDSM in Ethan's route? but yeah I would like to see more Dom Ash, but if it includes Ash being freaky with the boys... I... I'm not sure I wanna see that

 

[Avaron1974]

The main difference between good and bad routes should've been inside Ash, in her head, inner monologues, reactions. Like I said, good route would've been actually worse than the bad one, because you'd be kinda torturing the character, especially emotionally, while bad Ash just enjoys every depravity game world throws at her.

The problem here is you are looking it from a blokes perspective on how you want things to go whereas the game is created by a woman with a more realistic approach on how we are and how we would react to certain situations.

Not to be rude but I detest your idea. Setting up the good girl route based on rape?

That sounds absolutely terrible.

 

[Zongor]

Guys, is it just me or is there absolutely nothing in this 0.26 preview? Nothing extra at all for me after watching Eva's vids...

 

[Proto Persona]

The problem here is you are looking it from a blokes perspective on how you want things to go whereas the game is created by a woman with a more realistic approach on how we are and how we would react to certain situations.

Not to be rude but I detest your idea. Setting up the good girl route based on rape?

That sounds absolutely terrible.

Is it terrible for it to happen to a real life person? Hell yeah. But this isn't a real person, it's a fictional character. A character that already has the opportunity to commit horrible acts, including aiding in what I would consider to be a rape. More importantly, it's a porn game. Having a bunch of ways for the character to be sexed up is to be expected. I think such bad routes should be avoidable like anything else in this VN, but I don't see why they shouldn't be there at all.

 

[Avaron1974]

Is it terrible for it to happen to a real life person? Hell yeah. But this isn't a real person, it's a fictional character. A character that already has the opportunity to commit horrible acts, including aiding in what I would consider to be a rape. More importantly, it's a porn game. Having a bunch of ways for the character to be sexed up is to be expected. I think such bad routes should be avoidable like anything else in this VN, but I don't see why they shouldn't be there at all.

Please point out where I said they shouldn't be there at all?

I didn't say that did I.

The guy wanted the entire good girl route to start with rape, that was a bad idea. By all means include a rape scene in the game but starting the good girl route from that would be a shit idea.

 

[js00906]

The rape scene could happen if Bad Eva joins the gang but you don't call the police or warn Dave when you denied Wilson to come over. Dave gets in a coma and bad Eva blames you, sets you up to get raped, then later she gets arrested. You get to talk to her in Jail and either you can forgive her when she feels bad about it or you press charges and she goes away for good.

Another route I want to see is Good Jessica and not-bad Eva get to be friends. Especially when Jessica visits Dave in the hospital. I feel like the two could find common ground as Jessica grows into a better person. But they just seem to stay bitchy at each other, despite both being around each other often in the game.

 

[introvtx]

Another route I want to see is Good Jessica and not-bad Eva get to be friends. Especially when Jessica visits Dave in the hospital. I feel like the two could find common ground as Jessica grows into a better person. But they just seem to stay bitchy at each other, despite both being around each other often in the game.

Cause that's how most girls are, well how I see them at least. Unlike guys where we can be best friends with someone we just met simply because we have the same taste in music (happens to me in college). It's harder for them to make friends even more so forgive each other cause they are competitive and judgemental.

 

[AndreDA]

The problem here is you are looking it from a blokes perspective on how you want things to go whereas the game is created by a woman with a more realistic approach on how we are and how we would react to certain situations.

Not to be rude but I detest your idea. Setting up the good girl route based on rape?

That sounds absolutely terrible.

It's pornography, not a romance novel for women though. Anyway, I approached the subject from a writing perspective, Ash getting roofied/drunk just makes sense considering the circumstances early in the game. The reason why this is an issue is that there are problem with the good girl route as it is right now, bad girl route is fairly straightforward, total corruption, falling down the rabbit hole etc. But the "good" girl route, I just struggle to make sense of it. What is the idea behind it? Like I said, I think it's supposed to be some sex-positive, anti-slut-shaming thing, where a good, kind girl in a bright summer dress gets to explore her sexuality, but it doesn't work for me, mainly because of Eric. Good Ash would not break up with him, so that leaves cheating or open relationship, neither of which make sense for the character and good girl route.

You're right about the male perspective, because for me the main issue is setting up sex scenes and mental arousal because of Ash's emotions and inner thoughts, it's a porn game so the "good" side had to do these things too. Because I'm a guy taking away Ashley's agency and empowerment is not a problem for me, but I can see how that would be uncomfortable for a girl. Maybe that's the issue right now, that the bad route is more for guys, and the good one more for girls. But the bad one is so hardcore, with Ashley pretty much turning into some end-times whore prophecized by the bible, and the good one is so wierd with the good girl happily cuckolding her loving boyfriend, that I wish there was another route that would make more sense, logically, emotionally and from a writing perspective, while still setting up sex scenes (once again - it's porn). Ash being prey for predators and trying to deal with it is the best scenario I can come up with.

 

[Kristal]

Sure.

Another fun thing that the game kinda teased at the begging but didn't deliver (yet) was the reality show, which was mentioned a bunch of times, not just early in the game, but even later. Honestly feels like a logical later step for the fame-whore Ashley, to join the cast of the new season. But I don't think there's enough time left for that story, if the rumors about the game nearing the end are true.

that would be great idea!

 

[Jane Hbk]

Eva's character evolution

 

[Nymphonomicon]

Sure.

Another fun thing that the game kinda teased at the begging but didn't deliver (yet) was the reality show, which was mentioned a bunch of times, not just early in the game, but even later. Honestly feels like a logical later step for the fame-whore Ashley, to join the cast of the new season. But I don't think there's enough time left for that story, if the rumors about the game nearing the end are true.

I would think at the very least, if Ashley gets involved with Jack, that she would start following the reality show. If she gets interested in the show, it could serve as the jumping off point for her to try and get herself added as a cast member.

 

[Nymphonomicon]

Eva's character evolution

Here's hoping the microbikinis make another appearance...
I was hoping for a poolside scene at Ethan's place after Tyrone's party.

...and during the party, the girls are encouraged to keep their microbikinis, but I haven't seen them outside of the party as of yet.

 

[bauman]

The rape scene can't happen because of patreon. In some of the earlier versions one Jasmin scene was removed for a couple of updates due the nature of it. It was re-added later on.

 

[Dan5k74]

Is it terrible for it to happen to a real life person? Hell yeah. But this isn't a real person, it's a fictional character. A character that already has the opportunity to commit horrible acts, including aiding in what I would consider to be a rape. More importantly, it's a porn game. Having a bunch of ways for the character to be sexed up is to be expected. I think such bad routes should be avoidable like anything else in this VN, but I don't see why they shouldn't be there at all.

The rape scene could happen if Bad Eva joins the gang but you don't call the police or warn Dave when you denied Wilson to come over. Dave gets in a coma and bad Eva blames you, sets you up to get raped, then later she gets arrested. You get to talk to her in Jail and either you can forgive her when she feels bad about it or you press charges and she goes away for good.

Another route I want to see is Good Jessica and not-bad Eva get to be friends. Especially when Jessica visits Dave in the hospital. I feel like the two could find common ground as Jessica grows into a better person. But they just seem to stay bitchy at each other, despite both being around each other often in the game.

I think there is a point that has not been sufficiently taken into consideration, namely the site on which EvaKiss publishes her work and in particular the policy on adult content that Patreon asks to respect to those who use its platform (visible

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In this regard I believe that it is already a kind of miracle that Patreon has allowed EvaKiss to continue publishing her work on its platform (unlike other developers like

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for Dating My Daughter for example) and if this could have happened it is thanks to the fact that the main character is a female with an adult appearance and that, above all, her every involvement in any sexual act (even the most extreme as the incestuous one with her father) is always consensual.

 

[Kristal]

I'm not into microbikini on good ash. it looks nice on thug ash but good ash can have something less revealing, like thongs for example.

 

[Nymphonomicon]

I'm not into microbikini on good ash. it looks nice on thug ash but good ash can have something less revealing, like thongs for example.

Maybe a sling bikini instead? I suppose that would technically be less revealing...
Does the party have any options to what Ash wears if she refuses the microbikini? I've never refused it personally.

 

[greyelf]

...mainly because of Eric. Good Ash would not break up with him...

So you believe that it's unreasonable for a 'good' girl to get angry and break up with her boyfriend when she is confronted with the fact that he has decided (without any discussion with / input from her) to leave for a foreign land for a extended (and potentially indefinite) period.

That a 'good' girl should just agree to whatever her boyfriend decides, even when such decision making seems not take her feelings or thoughts into consideration?

 

[AndreDA]

He's only leaving for the summer, I don't remember any mention of indefinite stay, he even explains later in the park that it's actually not just a bleeding heart thing, but also a career move. Plus he talks about self improvement and self sufficiency, I imagine a girlfriend of a rather meek, wimpy guy like him would enjoy that he's trying to man up and would be willing to sacrifice one summer for that chance. Assuming Ash loves him waiting for 3 months is not something that will cause her to abandon the whole relationship. They've been together for years at that point after all.

Also having to dump him for the good girl route to be fun AND make sense is annoying. The only 2 other options are
1) wait for him and be loyal, so no scenes except skype masturbation, boring game
2) cuckold him, whether openly or behind his back, it's still something a good girl would never do

As I said, good girl sleeping around during the summer can make sense if she's single, not in a long-loooong term relationship with her high school sweetheart. Open relationship, cuckolding, cheating, just doesn't fit with good Ash. The only way to get lots of scenes is for good Ash to be... bad.