slightchance

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Mar 25, 2018
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Doesn't she get like 4000 dollars a month from patrons?

Plus she usually copies porn scenes and writing is bad. I mean cringe levels of bad. She still whines...
It's a telenovela, a spanish soap opera. People seem to love what she's come up with so far. You whining here won't make any difference. Besides, it shouldn't surprise you that income isn't an measurement of quality.

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You'll need to collect (almost exclusively) good girl points and support him.
 

DatBoit

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Dec 2, 2018
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Doesn't she get like 4000 dollars a month from patrons?

Plus she usually copies porn scenes and writing is bad. I mean cringe levels of bad. She still whines...
Well, if pirating is hampering her business, why wouldn't she be upset? Even if she's making enough now to support what she's doing, not being able to grow your income will mean that you can never expand production to make the game even better.

Of course, I don't know if it's proven that pirating actually has a negative effect on her income. You can argue that the people who use this site were never potential patrons anyways, so that it's the wrong target audience. But even so, it is most certainly undermining her business model.
 

bauman

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Sep 11, 2018
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EvaKiss is very slowly losing monthly income because the potential for this title is capped out, not because of piracy. You can argue a big chunk of her patrons are former pirates who liked it enough and decided to support her with a monthly pledge. It's tough to sustain interest for an adult game that's 2 years old, especially when it's a visual novel with little to no gameplay.
 

WRONGS

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Jan 14, 2018
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Ashley is a fictional character. Whatever being done to Eva in the game is neither Ashley's doing nor mine doing.The real culprit is the one writing all this stuff which is not Ashley BECAUSE SHE IS FICTIONAL. And like scor099 said 'the one who is doing this to Eva is a bitch'. So who is the bitch?

I cant explain any further than this.
Are you like this with all forms of entertainment too? When you hear somebody saying "I can't believe what Cersei did last episode!" you go on a rant about how the actual culprit was G R R Martin?
 

Joshua Tree

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Jul 10, 2017
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Well, if pirating is hampering her business, why wouldn't she be upset? Even if she's making enough now to support what she's doing, not being able to grow your income will mean that you can never expand production to make the game even better.

Of course, I don't know if it's proven that pirating actually has a negative effect on her income. You can argue that the people who use this site were never potential patrons anyways, so that it's the wrong target audience. But even so, it is most certainly undermining her business model.
Piracy is a double edged sword. It can both hurt you and help you. Regardless of what the industry been hampering on forever, a pirated work is not the same as a lost sale, because the likelihood of those that pirate would actually buy up front to start with is less. But someone that pirate might get to like something they otherwise wouldn't. And then turn into a customer/supporter. But then of course there is those that never would buy/support regardless and just happy about get it for "free" whether they like it or not.

For indie devs such as this one, their business model if limited to patreon is a rather vulnerable one. You have patreons that support because they like her work, and those that support to gain access to it. Those eager top supporters that all in for early access to alphas etc, when they see other people get for free what they pay for, maybe they start re-consider the level they pledge at. I don't really think its fair to lash out at the creator for being a bitch, greedy etc for wanting to protect her business. Who knows, maybe she went full in and this is her livelihood. I don't think anyone else here wouldn't want to protect their income and paycheck as well.

If you really like something, support it, don't lash out for not get your next freebie when you want it.
 

Joshua Tree

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I understand all these concerns but I'm more concerned about there still not being a pregnancy route. With today's whore/thot culture and the ridiculously high rates of single motherhood, this should have been one of the very first routes.
Unless it's IS in the game and I would know if I played it lol
There is a prego route with the dad. It's like two full days of fucking proving it... (kinda).
 
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Lecastel

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i think evakiss saw this and decided to add it up lol!tnx evakiss,great update again.maybe next time,we can see ash's gaping ass?love to see that damage lol.
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popple

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Jul 18, 2018
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i wrote the threesome with Tyrone and Hugo wasn't provided and, as DatBoit and Sarahzero answered, i was wrong : the scene is effectively here. it's a version of the Jack and Tyrone threesome described by unren as a part of the 0.26 update.
 

uztgft

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May 26, 2018
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The bimbo route is easy to pull off. Just make the same choices as you would if you are going thug Ashley, but don't join the gang. Make sure to get the boob job as well, and later you should be given the choice to embrace a new identity.

With thug Eva, in the early stages of the game, don't rack up that many bad points (let's say max three beforde going to Jack's gym with Eva). After having been to there, don't warn Eva of Jack's tricks. After this, you can go all out bad again, and both you and Eva will become thugs.
Thank you i will try it now
 

DatBoit

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Dec 2, 2018
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Piracy is a double edged sword. It can both hurt you and help you. Regardless of what the industry been hampering on forever, a pirated work is not the same as a lost sale, because the likelihood of those that pirate would actually buy up front to start with is less. But someone that pirate might get to like something they otherwise wouldn't. And then turn into a customer/supporter. But then of course there is those that never would buy/support regardless and just happy about get it for "free" whether they like it or not.

For indie devs such as this one, their business model if limited to patreon is a rather vulnerable one. You have patreons that support because they like her work, and those that support to gain access to it. Those eager top supporters that all in for early access to alphas etc, when they see other people get for free what they pay for, maybe they start re-consider the level they pledge at. I don't really think its fair to lash out at the creator for being a bitch, greedy etc for wanting to protect her business. Who knows, maybe she went full in and this is her livelihood. I don't think anyone else here wouldn't want to protect their income and paycheck as well.

If you really like something, support it, don't lash out for not get your next freebie when you want it.
I agree 100%. I mentioned in my original comment how the people who use these opportunities without supporting were probably never going to support it anyways. I mean, I first played the game off of this site, really enjoyed it, and choose to pledge $20. Even though I know I can get everything for free here, I will continue to support her because I like what she's doing and want her to keep doing it.

But as you say, it's not strange why she would ask people not to pirate certain versions instantly.
 

DatBoit

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Do you happen to know how good you have to be because I'm debating an all good run, but I need the boobjob you get from the other daddy so...
You can get the boob job in other ways. If you have enough money, you can pay for it yourself, or you can borrow money from Ethan and wait as long as possible before paying him back.
 
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