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azanemily1122

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I'm actually stuck in yazuka love path story, as I dont know how to trigger that ??? path while taking to the boss outside of coffee shop. Anyone knows which relationship sequence or choices will lead to that ??? path where we can choose the choice, "it on to her, not me".
 

sanek109991

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I feel like you didn't read the original message to do with this. I'm fairly certain it was explicitly stated that you had to directly reject the characters to get their bad ends, I don't mean reject as in romance I mean wholly reject them. Such as making Azami hate you and things along those lines, it's something you'd have to go out of your way to get.

At least that's how I read it.
I read that if you start dating one character while you're already dating another, something will happen. It was in a post listing NTR endings, so I thought it would be impossible to go through all routes at once.
 

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Here are the scenarios:

Asami - Hate path: Instead of befriending Asami, the tone quickly escalates to the point where you decide to reject her. This condemns her to a much quicker and more tragic fate.

Yasuka - Rejection path: Too busy getting your life back on track, you decide that Yasuka can fend for herself, but by leaving her life, you make room for someone who has been waiting for their chance for far too long.

Noriko - Rejection path: By rejecting Noriko and not reconciling with her, you leave her in the hands of the thugs and Akira.

Sakuya - You'll regret this path :You decide not to listen to Sakuya and continue to interact with Asami and Yasuka. No one will come out of this situation unscathed.

Sayuri - Douche path: You have succumbed to Sayuri's charms despite the fact that you are dating Asami. What could possibly go wrong?
These are the scenario's given by the Dev leaked here. What I'm guessing has happened is that you read Sakuya's scenario and got a bit confused. From what it says she's the only one where you get a bad ending by pursuing everyone and said bad and seems to be heading towards a Yandere mass murder spree rather than NTR, though I could be wrong on that as it's just how I interpreted it. (I'm not counting going for Azami and Sayuri as that's a different situation).
 
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sanek109991

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These are the scenario's given by the Dev leaked here. What I'm guessing has happened is that you read Sakuya's scenario and got a bit confused. From what it says she's the only one where you get a bad ending by pursuing everyone and said bad and seems to be heading towards a Yandere mass murder spree rather than NTR, though I could be wrong on that as it's just how I interpreted it. (I'm not counting going for Azami and Sayuri as that's a different situation).
I just read about them, to be honest I don't remember who Asami and Sayuri are (tomboy and her mother? If so, it doesn't change the essence of what I said, that NTR can't be avoided if I want everyone at once, and her mother is also on this list), because updates are rare, and I delete the game after finishing. And the situation with Yandere is also so-so, because it will no longer be possible to collect a full harem.
 

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From what it says she's the only one where you get a bad ending by pursuing everyone and said bad and seems to be heading towards a Yandere mass murder spree rather than NTR, though I could be wrong on that as it's just how I interpreted it. (I'm not counting going for Azami and Sayuri as that's a different situation).
As far as i can see, if pursuing both Asami and Sayuri leads to a bad end, then it's also effectively "you get a bad ending by pursuing everyone" in the sense you have to pick one or the other if you want to avoid a bad end.
 
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I feel like you didn't read the original message to do with this. I'm fairly certain it was explicitly stated that you had to directly reject the characters to get their bad ends, I don't mean reject as in romance I mean wholly reject them. Such as making Azami hate you and things along those lines, it's something you'd have to go out of your way to get.

At least that's how I read it.
Yes, by that wording, it should be possible to be on good, or semi-good terms with all of them, and lead to zero bad endings. I am sure there could still be some minor consequences throughout based on how close you are to each of them. I am also very curious why some in this thread consider it NTR if someone you reject ends up with someone else. IRL, it doesn't really work that way, but then again, IRL, if you reject someone, you could just.... not see them again. Whereas in a game, you are likely to see rejected LIs again for story purposes, I suppose. Still, I find it odd that some consider seeing "someone you didn't want" get with someone else, as NTR.
 
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IRL, it doesn't really work that way, but then again, IRL, if you reject someone, you could just.... not see them again. Whereas in a game, you are likely to see rejected LIs again for story purposes, I suppose. Still, I find it odd that some consider seeing "someone you didn't want" get with someone else, as NTR.
Like you note yourself, this is a porn game and not RL, and people work with it more following porn logic than RL conventions. In porn logic, more often than not "character having sex with someone other than my self-insert = omg, getting cucked". No matter if the player had any interest in that character in the first place.

It's especially egregious if the game comes with harem tag because people who play harem games tend to have very strong opinions on how there should be absolutely no sexual content for potential ROs with any other men (and often women) in the cast. Just browse some other threads for forum games, especially all the antsy question regarding appearance of any guy other than MC in the early screenshots.

Trying to argue with them on that is either exercise in futility or, like it's more the case with the author here, straight trolling.
 

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Most people who defend the author don't understand the claim. I'll try to explain it better. The author creates a good harem game and declares that there will never be NTR. Time passes, the author declares that there will be "bad endings" and declares that it is not NTR since you are not with the girl. The only problem is that it turns out that I can't save everyone in one playthrough and I will have to see NTR, and I don't want that and many people don't want that. I want to create a harem, but I am specifically limited. If I leave the girl as a friend, why can't I just help her so that she doesn't get into trouble? And what kind of porn logic is this, usually if you directly reject a character, he just disappears from the plot. So no one is trolling the author, people are unhappy for obvious reasons.
But you literally can, if you read what was written that's what it says. You only get NTR if you completely reject a character, if your still friends with them/help them out you won't get it. (This is of course under the assumption that things play out exactly as the Dev said they would".
 

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But you literally can, if you read what was written that's what it says. You only get NTR if you completely reject a character, if your still friends with them/help them out you won't get it. (This is of course under the assumption that things play out exactly as the Dev said they would".
It's too early to argue about something that won't appear soon, but if it does, then good. I hope it will be possible to communicate with yandere without a bad ending for the other girls. But if a bad ending means refusing a girl a relationship, then it's trash. If I were the author, I would simply add a setting that disables bad endings, or NTR, or a hint in the choices so as not to accidentally get to a bad ending, and everyone will be happy.
 

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I want to create a harem, but I am specifically limited. If I leave the girl as a friend, why can't I just help her so that she doesn't get into trouble?
If i understand it right, you will be able to help the girls which MC opted not to get involved with romantically. These bad endings would only really trigger if the player for whatever reasons chooses options which go extra mile to escalate situations in negative way, rather than keep it neutral or better.
 
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Most people who defend the author don't understand the claim. I'll try to explain it better. The author creates a good harem game and declares that there will never be NTR. Time passes, the author declares that there will be "bad endings" and declares that it is not NTR since you are not with the girl. The only problem is that it turns out that I can't save everyone in one playthrough and I will have to see NTR, and I don't want that and many people don't want that. I want to create a harem, but I am specifically limited. If I leave the girl as a friend, why can't I just help her so that she doesn't get into trouble? And what kind of porn logic is this, usually if you directly reject a character, he just disappears from the plot. So no one is trolling the author, people are unhappy for obvious reasons.

Since the very first version of the game, I warned that there would be consequences. This is stated in the very first disclaimer and is still the case today.

Here is what the disclaimer said a few years ago:

Welcome to Extra Life, some scenes in this game may contain sexually explicit content and may shock a young audience. The game is exclusively intended for an adult (18+) or adult audience. Extra Life does not contain NTR but during your adventure, your choices will impact those around you, if you reject a character several times expect him to go elsewhere, you are warned. All this in order to keep a certain coherence with the real world. Your actions will have consequences..."
And I don't want to do what everyone else is doing, so don't expect porn logic. I write the story I want to write.

If I were the author, I would simply add a setting that disables bad endings, or NTR, or a hint in the choices so as not to accidentally get to a bad ending, and everyone will be happy.

That's what I'm thinking of focusing on. It's planned that there will be two game modes: a snowflake mode where the paths will be shown and it will be impossible to make the wrong choices unless you want to.

And a “legacy” game mode where people can play the game as I imagined it, with minimal thinking required.
 

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Since the very first version of the game, I warned that there would be consequences. This is stated in the very first disclaimer and is still the case today.

Here is what the disclaimer said a few years ago:



And I don't want to do what everyone else is doing, so don't expect porn logic. I write the story I want to write.




That's what I'm thinking of focusing on. It's planned that there will be two game modes: a snowflake mode where the paths will be shown and it will be impossible to make the wrong choices unless you want to.

And a “legacy” game mode where people can play the game as I imagined it, with minimal thinking required.
Will friendship without romance lead to a bad ending, or can we help the girls?
 

Satura

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I have not looked into this game for some time, but now I find that the author is just injecting NTR and using some arbitrary definition to justify that they didn't include NTR.

And calling everyone that calls them out on his bullshit a "snowflake." Sounds really snowflake-y to me. Anyway, art still looks nice.
 

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To everyone who said you can be friends with a character and avoid a bad ending. The author ignored my direct question about this, which makes me wonder if friendship will still lead to a bad ending.
 

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To everyone who said you can be friends with a character and avoid a bad ending. The author ignored my direct question about this, which makes me wonder if friendship will still lead to a bad ending.
If i understand it right, you will be able to help the girls which MC opted not to get involved with romantically. These bad endings would only really trigger if the player for whatever reasons chooses options which go extra mile to escalate situations in negative way, rather than keep it neutral or better.
There you go. Pretty obvious what he is planning the game to be like, always was... even if many claim not to have seen this.
Now if we'll actually ever come that far, that's a different question entirely.
 

Satura

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There you go. Pretty obvious what he is planning the game to be like, always was... even if many claim not to have seen this.
Now if we'll actually ever come that far, that's a different question entirely.
That's pretty disingenuous, isn't it? They said there would be no NTR, but there would be consequences without being specific. Then they go "um, actually" to defend the inclusion of NTR. Because, under the general definition of a love interest being stolen away, this is NTR.

And let me be clear: I do not mind that. I will go one step further, I actually think that, just from a drama perspective, it's a pretty effective way to create high stakes. If it's a Bad Ending that you can only reach by being incompetent or terminally braindead, there's not really a reason to worry: It's a fail state, not a forced conclusion. If, as it's been said, just because you friendzone one of the girls doesn't mean automatic NTR (which would mean a sex scene included, of course), then it's a good way to force the players to be very careful how they approach each decision. That's cool. Hell, I support it if it's "optional" in the sense that you can avoid it, maybe even have a golden ending on the other end of the spectrum. But own up to it, people. The creator thought that NTR would be a nice form of punishment for careless players, and that's fine. It's the attempt to weasel out and then getting defensive when called out on it that's bullshit.

Also, how does this game not run on porn logic? Last time I played, there's a drug that brainwashes someone after three doses and makes them sexually imprint on the first person they see; the MC gets laid after something like three dates with a girl that he doesn't know from before and she's as far as we know, a virgin (and he can bang her in the public restroom, too); the MC goes back in time to bang his adopted family; there's a crazy love interest that accepts three-timing if you treat her carefully enough during that time. The game runs on porn logic, as much as we want to pretend it doesn't. It's a porn game, after all. If you don't want it to run on porn logic, maybe have the mom route take several years, a lot of partners in between and three nights of drunken rage after the 28th supposed divorcee that's just looking for another hole to score. But don't pretend this game doesn't use porn logic, because that's stupid.

And I repeat: The game is fine, I do not mind the NTR itself. The art is great and the plot, the actual plot, it's pretty interesting even if unrealistic from the get go. The dev has something truly great here, and if they're more open about the dramatic possibilities of the derided "porn logic" they can make a lot of people happy without truly compromising their vision. Hell, if they want the game to be about consequences, make some of the routes hard as nails, but doable. As an example, you want the double oyakodon? Fine: Be ready to balance a lot of shit for most of the time so you can convince everyone involved, and one wrong step ends with all of them leaving you. If the people want it, give it to them, but make it a nightmare to accomplish. Make them pay. If you want to get back to them? Give them poisoned apples.
 
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sanek109991

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as it's been said, just because you friendzone one of the girls doesn't mean automatic NTR (which would mean a sex scene included, of course), then it's a good way to force the players to be very careful how they approach each decision.
This is unconfirmed information, the author answers questions about the game, but ignored this particular question. This makes one wonder if this is an automatic bad ending. Plus, the author said (not here) that there would be no rape, but considering some of the scenes, isn't consent under the influence of drugs or threats considered rape? Although, maybe he's thinking according to this logic: if she said yes, it must be consensual.
 

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This is unconfirmed information, the author answers questions about the game, but ignored this particular question. This makes one wonder if this is an automatic bad ending. Plus, the author said (not here) that there would be no rape, but considering some of the scenes, isn't consent under the influence of drugs or threats considered rape? Although, maybe he's thinking according to this logic: if she said yes, it must be consensual.
I'm operating here under the notion that they won't be stupid enough to make the endings so binary (meaning, if you don't fuck them, automatically is a bad ending). The dev can make a good story, so defaulting to "if you don't fuck Noriko, she dies" or something like that doesn't seem reasonable.

But hey, maybe they do it out of spite, wouldn't be the first time someone just torpedoes their whole work getting defensive about it.
 

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I'm operating here under the notion that they won't be stupid enough to make the endings so binary (meaning, if you don't fuck them, automatically is a bad ending). The dev can make a good story, so defaulting to "if you don't fuck Noriko, she dies" or something like that doesn't seem reasonable.

But hey, maybe they do it out of spite, wouldn't be the first time someone just torpedoes their whole work getting defensive about it.
I don't know, doing something like that out of spite is stupid. He needs to attract people, not discourage them from playing.
 
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