Landuard

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Still on the subject of "bad endings". The author confirms that there will be no NTR or rape, but confirms that there will be "unpleasant scenes", what the fuck are these scenes going to be then?
 

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A long time ago, he debated a lot about the meaning of NTR in the discord group. For something to be considered NTR, the MC needs to have some kind of "connection" with the FMC.

I believe that he will indeed include "spicy scenes" in the bad endings, because as he said, it will be difficult to get them, you will have to be "negligent" with the FMC. In short, if you don't care about her, so her having sex with someone else is not considered NTR since you have no connection with her


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So we're going to have this shit, and the author is using the fact that Sato wasn't involved in the scene to "keep his word"
Impressive, I get it
I don't know if I'll be following this game until it becomes a reality. But if I am, I hope the dev does the bare minimum and doesn't merge this into the normal gallery.
 
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Hold on, I'm kind of new to this whole "porn games" thing. Are you telling me that these "ntr enjoyers" see themselves as the guy who's fucking?
It was a revelation to me as well, when someone explained it. And it does make more sense than being into getting cucked. Though I suppose some are into that as well. As part of that explanation, I was also told that supposedly NTR is also considered hotter in some ways because the girl becomes especially addicted to the other guys dick or something. I dunno, I don't see why you can't have a more wholesome addiction to dick if you really want that kind of stuff. It's all degeneracy to me, personally.
 
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Still on the subject of "bad endings". The author confirms that there will be no NTR or rape, but confirms that there will be "unpleasant scenes", what the fuck are these scenes going to be then?
MC is going to get a very stern talking to.

And it does make more sense
Your biggest mistake is trying to make sense of degeneracy. It has no logic, it just....is. People like what they like and there's no real reason behind it. There's excuses, self-justifications, but no logical reasons.
 
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Indeed, I've seen stuff like a fetish for seeing lolis get abused and what not...at that point I am not even gonna try and make sense of certain things. Waste of time

I imagine an example of a bad end is like the yandere not getting saved by the MC, so no interaction..and thus messed up by Akira. But idk, since that would require a massive change to the story
 

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"The only unpleasant scene is an NTR scene so if there's no NTR, how can there possibly be an unpleasant scene?"

As usual, NTR is always the biggest "discussion" maker on this site. Multiple threads have had to be PERMANENTLY closed due to it.
 

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I don't understand what the buzz about NTR is about. Even if it is included (which is a total creative choice of RNGeusEX), it would still be optional. Just like many other things in this game (dom/sub).

So if you don't like NTR, don't choose it.
I mean this is a porn game where tings happen, don't clime on morality mountain, you are here with us.
This game has incest, blackmail and soft rape.
I do want to see what happens if MC (Saito) does not make it and Yasuka is being taken advantage of, or if Saito himself takes advantage of his passed-out mom. Thats why I am here.

If the RNGeusEX makes a choice, and there is a scene with Macumba catching up to Saito, so be it. Just train harder and make sure he does not catch you.
How naive of you sadly. "Optional" NTR has still utterly enraged people on various occasions regardless. One game got review bombed over it (even though the content was kept isolated and only for those who wanted it) and another had their game thread closed down due to how bad the vitriol got.

Even this thread has had people get weirdly staunch about there not even being a hint of NTR or the game would be declared "dead". (The corruption path of Yasuka raised the hackles of a few folks.)
 

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The game ver hovering to ver 0.11 does that means that we'll have to go through 0.20, 0.50 and so forth just to see ver.1? Which I assume is the complete game?

Also, as someone who occasionally enjoys ntr content I kinda like that they will put bad endings. I mean to have a sort of pure love story and ntr content on a single game will satisfy both bases. And I think it's good for the fact that there will be more dire consequences at the choices you make it makes the game more interesting.
 

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I don't understand what the buzz about NTR is about. Even if it is included (which is a total creative choice of RNGeusEX), it would still be optional. Just like many other things in this game (dom/sub).

So if you don't like NTR, don't choose it.
I mean this is a porn game where tings happen, don't clime on morality mountain, you are here with us.
This game has incest, blackmail and soft rape.
I do want to see what happens if MC (Saito) does not make it and Yasuka is being taken advantage of, or if Saito himself takes advantage of his passed-out mom. Thats why I am here.

If the RNGeusEX makes a choice, and there is a scene with Macumba catching up to Saito, so be it. Just train harder and make sure he does not catch you.
This game already has a lot of "ntr bait", and RNG PROMISED that there would be nothing like that with the girls before and after the bad endings poll. Let him do what he wants with his game, but at least say that he won't keep his word.
 
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This game already has a lot of "ntr bait", and RNG PROMISED that there would be nothing like that with the girls before and after the bad endings poll. Let him do what he wants with his game, but at least say that he won't keep his word.
If he has ntr bait and isn't even committing to ntr, then I'm out I guess. Either have it and fully commit or don't imo. This game runs so laggy that I can't be bothered. Have to wait a bit every time I try to move somewhere
 
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Anyway, I'm going to play this shit until this update because it will probably have content with Natsume and I think she's hot.
I'm going to do what I should have done with the end of the Shingeki no Kyojin manga, I didn't see it so it didn't happen.
You guys have fun, see you around
(Go fuck yourself Hajime Isayama, I really hate that final)
 

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How naive of you sadly. "Optional" NTR has still utterly enraged people on various occasions regardless. One game got review bombed over it (even though the content was kept isolated and only for those who wanted it) and another had their game thread closed down due to how bad the vitriol got.

Even this thread has had people get weirdly staunch about there not even being a hint of NTR or the game would be declared "dead". (The corruption path of Yasuka raised the hackles of a few folks.)

In another thread I merely suggested that main girl should have an anal scene and got suspended for a week (for trying to push agenda supposedly). Moderators won't allow review bombing or harassment.

RNGeusEX got us this far - trust his vision and kinks.
 

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He made it clear that there will be "unpleasant scenes" for some.

With this story of bad endings, I believe that DEV is supporting the idea that to be considered something like NTR, you need to have ties to the FMC, if you do her route correctly, she won't get involved with others.

Now if you decide to ignore her issues, she will get involved with other guys, and that cannot be considered NTR, you have ignored her route, you have no connection with her. For something to be NTR, you need to have a connection with FMC, I think that's what he wants to do.

If that's the case, I particularly like the idea
 

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He made it clear that there will be "unpleasant scenes" for some.

With this story of bad endings, I believe that DEV is supporting the idea that to be considered something like NTR, you need to have ties to the FMC, if you do her route correctly, she won't get involved with others.

Now if you decide to ignore her issues, she will get involved with other guys, and that cannot be considered NTR, you have ignored her route, you have no connection with her. For something to be NTR, you need to have a connection with FMC, I think that's what he wants to do.

If that's the case, I particularly like the idea
Additionally, there's talks in the community for the bad stuff to be DLC. Which means that you wont have to engage with it unless you purchase the DLC. Developer having his own vision should matter, but introducing forced bad stuff halfway through development isn't nice to those that don't wanna see it. But we'll see what they do. Either way, I'm certain that it'll be optional one way or another. Like you mentioned, if you just pay attention to x character, she wont end up talking to Akira, Netoru, etc.
 
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Additionally, there's talks in the community for the bad stuff to be DLC. Which means that you wont have to engage with it unless you purchase the DLC. Developer having his own vision should matter, but introducing forced bad stuff halfway through development isn't nice to those that don't wanna see it. But we'll see what they do. Either way, I'm certain that it'll be optional one way or another. Like you mentioned, if you just pay attention to x character, she wont end up talking to Akira, Netoru, etc.
It will be difficult to get these bad endings, requiring several bad choices on the player's part. And the game will probably warn you that you are heading towards a bad ending.

Some people here don't understand that the game will not actually have NTR, ntr means betrayal, how can the FMC commit betrayal if you have no connection with her.

I'll give a bad example: the same thing as me breaking up with my gf, a year later she starts dating someone else, that's not betrayal, I no longer have anything to do with her.
 
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He made it clear that there will be "unpleasant scenes" for some.

With this story of bad endings, I believe that DEV is supporting the idea that to be considered something like NTR, you need to have ties to the FMC, if you do her route correctly, she won't get involved with others.

Now if you decide to ignore her issues, she will get involved with other guys, and that cannot be considered NTR, you have ignored her route, you have no connection with her. For something to be NTR, you need to have a connection with FMC, I think that's what he wants to do.

If that's the case, I particularly like the idea
Well at least we will get to see some male dom in the bad routes.
 

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It will be difficult to get these bad endings, requiring several bad choices on the player's part. And the game will probably warn you that you are heading towards a bad ending.

Some people here don't understand that the game will not actually have NTR, ntr means betrayal, how can the FMC commit betrayal if you have no connection with her.

I'll give a bad example: the same thing as me breaking up with my gf, a year later she starts dating someone else, that's not betrayal, I no longer have anything to do with her.
Except these bad endings will be a lot worse than your ex meeting someone else. But I get your point.

As long as I can have a happy ending with everyone I want, I'm good. If I wanna see horrible stuff done to people, I'll read world news you know. But that's the beauty of games like this. You make the world into what you want it to be by having several choices at several points. Which means that the relationships can grow or sink.
 
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