Others Goodbye Eternity [v0.12.0] [RNGeusEX]

[RNGeusEX]

You are directly contradicting yourself in a span of just couple of paragraphs -- having one's input carry more weight is giving them preferential treatment. Like you say, it is pretty normal so there is no point in trying to simultaneously pretend it's not something that is taking place. It's not going to help anyone whose feedback is given less weight feel any better, if anything it's just an extra insult you'd try to feed them such obvious bullshit how they're not treated differently when they in fact are "and it's normal".

You’re mixing two separate concepts and treating them as if they were the same. Purchasing the game and supporting ongoing development are not equivalent actions. Buying the game gives permanent access to the product and all future updates. That part is equal for everyone, and nothing about it depends on Patreon.

Crowdfunding is different by design. People who fund ongoing development month after month are not buying extra content; they are financing its creation. Their feedback is weighted more heavily only in the context of development priorities, because they are the ones enabling that extra development to exist in the first place. That’s how every crowdfunded project works, whether on Patreon, Kickstarter, or anywhere else.

This is not “preferential treatment” regarding the game itself. Everyone receives the same content, the same updates, at the same time, regardless of how much they paid. No one is downgraded, and no one loses access to anything.

What differs is the influence on the roadmap. Not the product.
There is no contradiction there. Two forms of support, two forms of involvement, one identical product for all.

itch.io or GoG is where you buy the game. Patreon is where you participate in its ongoing development. Confusing these two roles is the source of the misunderstanding.

 

[StonR]

You are directly contradicting yourself in a span of just couple of paragraphs -- having one's input carry more weight is giving them preferential treatment. Like you say, it is pretty normal so there is no point in trying to simultaneously pretend it's not something that is taking place. It's not going to help anyone whose feedback is given less weight feel any better, if anything it's just an extra insult you'd try to feed them such obvious bullshit how they're not treated differently when they in fact are "and it's normal".

Put it like this instead. Bob buys the game on GOG, he plays it a bit and enjoys it. Then he moves on to play other things. Perhaps he keeps track on on this game once in a while, but he's not really that devoted. Then there's Billy, now Billy is super devoted. He loves the game and what it's gonna become. Billy is excited to see more and he wants to help to make sure it reaches 1.0. Billy decides to support the game on Patreon every single month for 10, 15, 20, 25 bucks or whatever it is. Billy constantly provides feedback and opinions on the game and all it's aspects.

Now isn't it more important to listen to Billy over Bob? Billy puts himself out there. He makes an effort. Now I'm not saying that Bob isn't, but Bob exists out there somewhere. But all of a sudden, Emma discovers the game. But she isn't economically stable, so she just buys the game on GOG. Then she finds out that there is a Discord server. Now Emma is very vocal, she likes to write a ton. So Emma does that. She goes into the #suggestions channel and points out all the things she wanna see and have changed. RNG sees that and replies, quite optimistically. Now all of a sudden Emma is part of the community that supports the game. Is her voice less valuable than a Patreon supporter? Yes, absolutely. She just came there, while Billy has supported the game for several months on Patreon. He's seen the changes and additions over time. But all this doesn't mean that Emma is being ignored at all. It just means that there's an hierarchy, which Patreon probably has too since I assume there's different tiers.

 

[ffive]

You’re mixing two separate concepts and treating them as if they were the same. Purchasing the game and supporting ongoing development are not equivalent actions. Buying the game gives permanent access to the product and all future updates. That part is equal for everyone, and nothing about it depends on Patreon.

I've never said those two are equivalent actions. Quite the opposite. I've only objected to your attempt to try to present different treatments as the same based on the treatments being in part the same.

This is not “preferential treatment” regarding the game itself. Everyone receives the same content, the same updates, at the same time, regardless of how much they paid. No one is downgraded, and no one loses access to anything.

What differs is the influence on the roadmap. Not the product.

I simply disagree. Extra ability to influence "roadmap, not the product" is de facto influence on the final shape of the product, when the roadmap in question determines what the complete product is like. Trying to present these as if there's no connection between the two is simply disingenuous, because i don't believe you aren't intelligent enough to recognize this connection yourself.

While "everyone receives the same content" a subset of the customers has more influence over the actual nature of that content. People who paid less are paid less attention to in return, and their ability to determine what game they get is relatively limited. My only real point was, i think you're much better off simply acknowledging that different tiers of your customers do get different treatment and leave it at that. Because they are also smart enough to recognize it, and trying to gaslight them into thinking otherwise is only going to produce extra resentment on their part.

 

[zedzadzod]

is there anywhere I can get 0.11 complete gallery saves? I already got the game.

 

[cheesecake is guud]

Will the new POLL results will be visible for non-patreon people? Just to know what decision the devs are taking

 

[RNGeusEX]

The game you get on itch is the full product, and it remains the full product no matter who funds future additions.

Crowdfunding is not a purchase. It’s participation in production. Treating it as if it should follow the same rules as a store transaction is the root of the misunderstanding.

If someone wants to shape development priorities, Patreon is the place for that.
If someone wants the finished game and every update, itch.io provides exactly that.

Both groups are treated consistently within their respective roles. There’s no deception here, no “gaslighting”, and no attempt to hide anything, just two distinct forms of involvement that serve two distinct purposes.

I won’t be responding further on this point. I’ve explained the structure clearly, and if you still refuse to acknowledge it, the issue sits somewhere between your chair and your keyboard.

 

[Whowantsbasic]

The game you get on itch is the full product, and it remains the full product no matter who funds future additions.

Crowdfunding is not a purchase. It’s participation in production. Treating it as if it should follow the same rules as a store transaction is the root of the misunderstanding.

If someone wants to shape development priorities, Patreon is the place for that.
If someone wants the finished game and every update, itch.io provides exactly that.

Both groups are treated consistently within their respective roles. There’s no deception here, no “gaslighting”, and no attempt to hide anything, just two distinct forms of involvement that serve two distinct purposes.

I won’t be responding further on this point. I’ve explained the structure clearly, and if you still refuse to acknowledge it, the issue sits somewhere between your chair and your keyboard.

wait before you stop responding.... can you spell ICUP

 

[TheOnlyRockSolid]

So... for those of us who actually skip all dialogue... what's the story about? I only know the premise, and a little more than what's described on the main page.

 

[ffive]

Both groups are treated consistently within their respective roles. There’s no deception here, no “gaslighting”, and no attempt to hide anything, just two distinct forms of involvement that serve two distinct purposes.

I won’t be responding further on this point. I’ve explained the structure clearly, and if you still refuse to acknowledge it, the issue sits somewhere between your chair and your keyboard.

I'm sorry, but the statement how "people who contribute regularly through crowdfunding are not receiving special treatment." which stands in opposition to your own acknowledgement there are two groups which do receive different, respective treatments, didn't originate between my chair and keyboard. You didn't have to make it, but you chose to. Please don't pretend now it didn't take place, and if you still for some reason feel you must, at least refrain from insulting people who point that out and don't try to dress it up as if it's somehow mistake on their part and not yours.

 

[ZiolKen]

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[Seawynn]

You’re mixing two separate concepts and treating them as if they were the same. Purchasing the game and supporting ongoing development are not equivalent actions. Buying the game gives permanent access to the product and all future updates. That part is equal for everyone, and nothing about it depends on Patreon.

Crowdfunding is different by design. People who fund ongoing development month after month are not buying extra content; they are financing its creation. Their feedback is weighted more heavily only in the context of development priorities, because they are the ones enabling that extra development to exist in the first place. That’s how every crowdfunded project works, whether on Patreon, Kickstarter, or anywhere else.

This is not “preferential treatment” regarding the game itself. Everyone receives the same content, the same updates, at the same time, regardless of how much they paid. No one is downgraded, and no one loses access to anything.

What differs is the influence on the roadmap. Not the product.
There is no contradiction there. Two forms of support, two forms of involvement, one identical product for all.

itch.io or GoG is where you buy the game. Patreon is where you participate in its ongoing development. Confusing these two roles is the source of the misunderstanding.

Can we expect a steam release? If so, any ETA?

Reason I'm asking is because GoG and Itch.io are smaller markets than steam, and as a consumer, I like to keep everything behind one singular credential/password and storefront - that place being steam.

Point is: I'm not about to make a GoG or Itch.io account just for one singular title. Yeah, they gift games quite often, but I still don't got anything from there installed lol, not even the launchers.

I assume you have already considered or tried pushing a steam release. I'm just curious as to why it isn't on Steam as of now, specially since that it's the biggest videogame store for PC.

 

[11037AAA]

Can we expect a steam release? If so, any ETA?

Reason I'm asking is because GoG and Itch.io are smaller markets than steam, and as a consumer, I like to keep everything behind one singular credential/password and storefront - that place being steam.

Point is: I'm not about to make a GoG or Itch.io account just for one singular title. Yeah, they gift games quite often, but I still don't got anything from there installed lol, not even the launchers.

I assume you have already considered or tried pushing a steam release. I'm just curious as to why it isn't on Steam as of now, specially since that it's the biggest videogame store for PC.

iirc they tried getting the game on steam but it was rejected twice and so they can't do it anymore

 

[Atribator]

What defines the start menu background? It's not progress, even deleting the entire godot folder nothing changes, but I'm certain the image changed

 

[Bask-0a]

Don't care about NTR on my harem game, did we at least got a good ending or it was rushed to give the sickos what they wanted?

 

[TotallyNotFappin]

Hi, new to the game.
Like it so far but the Asami kidnapping part fucking sucks. I don't mind a kidnapping story beat, but everyone just sipped retard juice when this situation unfolded.

 

[brepul69]

What defines the start menu background? It's not progress, even deleting the entire godot folder nothing changes, but I'm certain the image changed

Pretty sure its the time on your clock

 

[Seawynn]

iirc they tried getting the game on steam but it was rejected twice and so they can't do it anymore

how did they manage to fuck it up that badly lmao. Black Souls 1 and 2 got approved, Demon Roots got approved, and fucking Summer/Winter Memories got approved.

I decided to use Brave AI to get more or less informed in the matter, it's really bleak lol. Here's the shortened version:

"Key-takeaways:
- Permanent rejection means the app is banned and cannot be reused, even with changes.
- Valve does not allow appeals for rejections based on policy violations like underage or incest content.
- Developers can create a new game with a new App ID, but must avoid making it a direct reskin of the rejected project.
- Censored versions of adult games (e.g., Black Souls 1 & 2) are allowed if uncensored content is distributed externally via third-party patches.
- Steam permits external patches as long as they are not hosted, linked, or promoted on Steam.
- Simply making a game unbeatable without a patch does not bypass rejection; the core issue is content, not gameplay.
- Using a different App ID does not guarantee approval if the submission is seen as a circumvention.
- Success depends on how distinct the new project appears from the rejected one.
- There are no confirmed cases of a permanently rejected game being re-approved through workarounds.
- The safest path is a genuinely new project, not a repackaged version of a banned game."

Good luck or whatever, truly a pity if it'll never make it to Steam. Maybe it'll go better with the next project; one can only hope.

 

[Kod2222]

does anyone have 0.12 apk ver

 

[Daame]

does anyone have 0.12 apk ver

I am from the future, there is no 0.12 apk. . .

 

[Atribator]

There is a bug, not sure it was reported before, but I certainly cannot look 380 pages of comments.

Attached file contains 2 saves: the first is right before noriko's scene in her room during the thug life arc or whatever that is called. The second is right after going back home after beating the second thug.

Now, in those files (ever since game start), I'm always rejecting everyone but yasuka - yet, at this point, it doesn't matter if you reject her again, the game treats it as you fucked noriko in her mother's room and all subsequent dialogues also consider that.

Maybe it's just a wrong flag at the end of the scene and can be easily fixed