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Rehwyn

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It's funny to see how people react to a game that it's on its 0.12 version. I mean, not even at 1.0, or 0.5... At 0.12. The writing definitely has declined considerably on the main route being taken right now, but it's not impossible to imagine that we are going to have a main route and then different other routes we can take.

My fear is that these routes can be too short or boring, and the main route is the only one good enough for you to take on. Our choices regarding Yasuka's corruption, Noriko's relationship and Asami's relationship may and probably will impact on the main route further on the game's development, if it ever gets finished.
Minor nitpick, but under semantic versioning (which is the most common versioning scheme), v0.12 is 7 updates after v0.5 - it's not a decimal system. It would go v0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 0.9, 0.10, 0.11, and then 0.12.

That also means it has no real indication on how far away v1.0 is. It could be 1 update away or 300 updates away.

I'm not saying that's the case or we have no idea though, because the dev logs give the impression we're getting closer to the end. Just saying that the numbering doesn't mean we're 12% of the way there or something.
 
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Given how non-standardized Change Logs are in this place (as well as across many software categories in general), I prefer approaches like Kuvira's on Lovephobia or the Naughty Captain on Summer Scent. They chunk game progress down into plot Days. While it may not have a solid "End Date" of the Finale, you at least get a sense of how much time has passed in-game and have a yardstick to determine progress.
 

Xe tải kun

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You must be confusing me with someone else you talked to or maybe you are retarded or something.
I never said it was an insult, I don't care that you like cuck content. What I found funny is why you are so defensive about it, it's like you are ashamed of it.
So you're proof of inbreeding, right? You're the one who mentioned me, and now you say you don't care? And I've never been defensive or ashamed of anything. Don't try to make things up or fabricate things onto other people in this conversation; you're not a lawyer. You're trying to avoid mentioning your preferences, and as you said, you're ashamed of that yourself!
 

Overlord070

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So you're proof of inbreeding, right? You're the one who mentioned me, and now you say you don't care? And I've never been defensive or ashamed of anything. Don't try to make things up or fabricate things onto other people in this conversation; you're not a lawyer. You're trying to avoid mentioning your preferences, and as you said, you're ashamed of that yourself!
Before you quoted me, I hadn't even mentioned you, you accused yourself. :KEK:
What's there to hide chromy, I play harem, incest, corruption, and much, much more, why do you think I am in this thread, genius?
 
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Seidou

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From what I hear, people into NTR are not into getting cucked themselves. They're into being the one who cucks. So, on the topic of this game, do people want the MC to get cucked? I mean, I personally find both weird. One is weirdly self-destructive, and the other is just delusional. Then again, for most of the people enjoying hentai even normal, wholesome stuff is delusional, so I guess the line is subjective.
Am I the only person who NEVER self inserts no matter what game/doujin I'm playing/reading. I will always pick the default name and if it asks for a name I just come up with one that fits the characters design. I look at it from a perspective where I'm just the spectator, I'm not the "protagonist". IDK how to explain it well, but I often see this said all the time that people self insert themselves into the bull in NTR stuff, or even the cucked, but I don't at all I just see them as characters. Am I crazy?
 

StonR

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There are various differences, but they are basically minute when it comes to these types of AVNs, even with sharing which are technically the real cuckolds they can do it for multiple different reasons, some are into the hippy free love kind of thing while others want to feel humiliation, but you typically only see one type of that in these "games".

In AVNs, 99% of ntr is cuckoldry on the basis of humiliation, it's not purely that the mc is down of his luck and gets cheated on or whatever, nah they make a point of humiliation and people get off on that. It's a humiliation kink.

I disagree that choosing to be cucked is wholesome :HideThePain: we'll have to agree to disagree on that. :LUL:



Seems like my comment struck a nerve, I genuinely don't get it. If you like cuck content, then good for you, I just don't see why you're so defensive about something you enjoy.
Yeah, I don't get the ntr thing in VN games at all. Nor the fascination with it. I just play these vanilla oriented games and enjoy them. That said, I do see cucking as wholesome because generally, the dude wants to see his girl with another man. It's him willingly agreeing to it and often enjoying it. Certain adult sites have a ton of cucking content that supports that. But like I wrote, potato pOtatO you know. I guess in VN games they seem to think that cucking is similar to ntr and that means that the guy watching likes it or something. If anyone really knows the true definition of ntr, they might get a reality check. Because reality is far more grimm than a simple mutual cucking.
 
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Xe tải kun

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Before you quoted me, I hadn't even mentioned you, you accused yourself. :KEK:
What's there to hide chromy, I play harem, incest, corruption, and much, much more, why do you think I am in this thread, genius?
The best confession ever, baby. You share that you feel ashamed, I share what I feel ashamed of, so why are you yelling? And by the way, my hobbies are NTR and Gugo. If you still feel ashamed, cover your face, or sue in court so they can look into it for you. :KEK:
 

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I don't really get the hate for NTR specifically here for some reason. Not why one might dislike it but why this should be some harem game with the caliber of its premise obviously allowing something greater than a generic harem sandbox just with a great design team and budget.
This game was for a long time presented as a harem game (still is, if you look at the tags and aren't aware of what the dev said only recently here) and the harem folks absolutely can't' stand the thought of NTR. So this is the sort of playerbase the game has attracted, and those people are now getting a double-whammy of "there actually won't be a harem" and "there will be not technically NTR". So it shouldn't be surprising at all you're seeing this kind of reactions specifically here. The reason is lot of people were misled about what sort of a game they're subscribing for.
 
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Most people would like a full harem because that's what they started playing the game for, but the author wrote here last month that there won't be a harem in the game.
This makes a lot of sense. I kept getting moronic NTR pings in the discord, despite not having the ntrenjoyer tag, so I looked in general and happened to see one of the devs writing an entire diatribe about how NTR is actually good for you or some bullshit like that. Same guy I kept getting the pings from too. I just left the discord after seeing that.

Basically, at least one of the main devs is a hardcore cuckold, and a dumbass troll on top of that, so the writing going down the shitter and the elimination of any idea of a harem follows logically. Cucks just can't help but be smarmy weirdos online, constantly wanting their awful fetish shoved into everything. You don't see people into gore or scat acting like this.

Shame the art for this game is so good, it's totally wasted on this moron. Oh well, at least I never paid for this slop.
 
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The hate is very easy to understand when you realize people like to self-insert in these types of AVNs and, you might find it weird, but actually the vast majority don't want to feel like they are getting cucked/betrayed. I've played plenty of games with optional ntr where if you fail bad stuff happens and it's interesting to avoid it imo but most ntr players wouldn't want that either, they want to read about the player character getting humiliated, betrayed and cucked which I personally don't understand as a kink tbh.
I mean yeah I guess. I actively seperate myself from the MC and Me, like my enjoyment of NTR is itself derived more of drama and schadenfreude than any sense of humiliation to me. I do hate most harem games by just disliking the people it attracts which to me are wish-fufillment dudes who want a fleshlight and it just being plain boring for the most part. I like vanilla with some character (as in characters are locked and will get mad if you're a wannabe playboy). I'm probably like one of the demographic dead-ends when it comes to the pornographic gaming market. Still I feel like this is like the one game that NTR makes sense the most to have that was marketed as a vanilla harem slop where narrative and gameplay collude in choices and tone (corruption path where the corruption is being kinda "slutty" and that's it, no consequences for making your "caretaker" escort people) hence my comment.
 

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What's incest patch anyways? Also I noticed that they always shoot in all woman's asses we can't see much creampie Which is boring
To each his own.
Yasuka still have not gotten anal which I've been waiting for over 3 years, which hurts me deeply.
That being said having anal and then creampie is also really really good to me.
 

StonR

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The best confession ever, baby. You share that you feel ashamed, I share what I feel ashamed of, so why are you yelling? And by the way, my hobbies are NTR and Gugo. If you still feel ashamed, cover your face, or sue in court so they can look into it for you. :KEK:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Mr Overlord never mentioned you or implied anything regarding your opinions. He just made a simple comment just like reply #8,009 above. If he wanted to, he would've quoted or replied to your message. This "fight" you're having is based entirely on a misunderstanding. That aside, looks like the "ragebait" worked :LUL:
 

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Checked latest version finally, last time I played this game was like 2 years ago.

Main selling point is variety of fetishes and pretty graphics, meanwhile, script itself gives mixed feelings. Sayuri and Sakuya rotes feel messy, and Noriko's reasoning to being bich for years is absurd.
Also, what was the point adding another milf, if we already have Yasuka?
Where is loli girl then? We need little sister of Asami!

Not sure how story will look in the end, maybe everything will make more sense, or author will rewrite part of script. Good job overall, just note that there flaws, I am not the first one who complains about script.
 

ffive

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Where is loli girl then? We need little sister of Asami!
That character was reworked in attempt to appease Steam enough to publish the game there. A bid that's ultimately failed. But with payment processors only becoming more fervent in their "moral" crusade, i wouldn't expect any change in this regard.
 

DatWanGai

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That character was reworked in attempt to appease Steam enough to publish the game there. A bid that's ultimately failed. But with payment processors only becoming more fervent in their "moral" crusade, i wouldn't expect any change in this regard.
You won't have to worry about payment processors soon. Multiple countries are cracking down on them pretty much telling them they have no right to tell their customers what they can spend their money on. VISA and MC got slammed in Japan and it's been slowly made illegal here in the states. EU and Aus though....my prayers goes out to the bros across the great salt pond and down under.
 

OmegaAlpha

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Am I the only person who NEVER self inserts no matter what game/doujin I'm playing/reading. I will always pick the default name and if it asks for a name I just come up with one that fits the characters design. I look at it from a perspective where I'm just the spectator, I'm not the "protagonist". IDK how to explain it well, but I often see this said all the time that people self insert themselves into the bull in NTR stuff, or even the cucked, but I don't at all I just see them as characters. Am I crazy?
I don't even really see the bulls in NTR stuff as characters most of the line (granted I generally avoid it, since not my kink and all, I prefer wholesome fluffy romance). I feel like they more often than not end up just being a plot device more than an actual character. They don't have much of a personality or agency in the story, and often not even a properly developed design and appearance. Their role is solely to signal to the player that the NTR is happening now. I imagine there are exceptions of course, but I doubt that many.

I would say that never self inserting into a porn game is a bit unusual though, even if I'm mostly the same. Ultimately you are given the explicit role of steering and influencing the character you're playing and it's through their eyes you experience the world, so it does feel to me like the intention is for you put yourself in their place (how well that works when most of them fail to act like actual humans is debatable).
 
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