Jeycii_

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dunno, im feeling like leaving my review in the forum also, just to leave some positive vibes.

wanted to write a small love letter to this game. I nearly finished the game in one sitting (Ooooh, just how much i love the mother/milf characters. Im really excited to see Asamis and Sakuyas mothers...)
But many bad reviews here just took my motivation to do so, so... it will be shorter one:

I love the art. It is so beautiful and unique i absolutely fell is love with it. while playing i constantly wished: "i hope there is going to be tons of content and that i will be able to keep playing." Its amazing.
Characters.. i mean.. storytelling is hard if you dont have experience and time to think about fleshing them out (i imagine the dev draws most of the stuff himself. where do you find the time to think about great story plots while keeping up with release schedules). So using cliches are absolutely fine in my opinion. Sure some things felt rushed storywise (Sakuyas and sisters sex scenes)the build was there, just didnt feel satisfying, but bruh.. its totally ok.
In the end its just supposed to be a +18 game. yo can feel in the art that the dev cares a lot for the game. most of the pictures are so beautiful and probably took a loooot of time, work and love (i read in his discord that he draws himself) so im totally grateful for the dev creating this game and his efforts.

and also i dont care for the stats and money. im also the type of player who likes to minmax but if the dev doesnt see any function so far, who am i to lower the review stars because of random stats? (still i would love my stolen money back, i collected all "treasures" and wasted time on it) its cool that they got implemented. they will surely have some function later on...

i was thinking of putting this games signature banner in my signatures but i couldnt find any banners unfortunately.

also.. ppl may hate me for saying that but i sincerely wished that this game had netori scenes (avoidable/with warnings of course).. like that scene in the hotel with the 3rd dosis or the blackmail scene in your own room.. it was so close.. so close that i could already envision it.. but looks like dev doesnt like ntr or the community would react negatively on it.. which is a huge shame honestly.. anywayssss

on a final note... the mothers here all look so goddamn hawt.. wow.. i really need some content for them.. so, so hawt..
the time elapse scene in ***'s bedroom was just.. pure perfection.. absolutely loved it, thank you for that dev...
 
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RNGeusEX

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...btw, the mothers here all good so goddamn hawt.. wow.. i really need some content for them.. so so hawt..
the time lapse scene in *** bedroom was just.. pure perfection.. absolutely loved it, thank you for that dev...
I always try to reply to this kind of message, the main reason being that it gives me so much satisfaction to see that everything we do is appreciated greatly. It also gives me the strength to carry on with even greater determination.

Negative reviews on the game, while they may have pissed me off at one time, now seem less of a problem. People complain, rightly or wrongly, but all too often because the story being told isn't going in the direction they'd like.
- But you can't please everyone.
- The game is still in early access, so there's a lot to come.
- I'm not perfect, so I can make mistakes and bad choices.
- If criticism is constructive and often points to a particular element, I always take it into account.

NTR will never be present in the game, but it would be interesting to see what the exact definition of this term is. There's a disclaimer at the game's launch that probably nobody reads, but here's an extract that might interest you.

"During your adventure, your choices will have an impact on those around you, so if you reject a character several times, expect them to go elsewhere."

These routes aren't a priority, I'm trying to advance the story line before tackling them. So let me be clear, future routes may emerge in the near future, or if a character is rejected, ignored or not taken seriously, the story may take a turn that will leave many snowflakes with negative reviews.

Finally, I'd always make it a point of honor to offer quality scenes and animations, handmade by real artists rather than lowering quality or going through an AI, a choice that in some ways does me a disservice because the development time is longer.

Thanks again for your message Jeycii_ I'll keep doing what I love :)
 

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I always try to reply to this kind of message, the main reason being that it gives me so much satisfaction to see that everything we do is appreciated greatly. It also gives me the strength to carry on with even greater determination.

Negative reviews on the game, while they may have pissed me off at one time, now seem less of a problem. People complain, rightly or wrongly, but all too often because the story being told isn't going in the direction they'd like.
- But you can't please everyone.
- The game is still in early access, so there's a lot to come.
- I'm not perfect, so I can make mistakes and bad choices.
- If criticism is constructive and often points to a particular element, I always take it into account.

NTR will never be present in the game, but it would be interesting to see what the exact definition of this term is. There's a disclaimer at the game's launch that probably nobody reads, but here's an extract that might interest you.

"During your adventure, your choices will have an impact on those around you, so if you reject a character several times, expect them to go elsewhere."

These routes aren't a priority, I'm trying to advance the story line before tackling them. So let me be clear, future routes may emerge in the near future, or if a character is rejected, ignored or not taken seriously, the story may take a turn that will leave many snowflakes with negative reviews.

Finally, I'd always make it a point of honor to offer quality scenes and animations, handmade by real artists rather than lowering quality or going through an AI, a choice that in some ways does me a disservice because the development time is longer.

Thanks again for your message Jeycii_ I'll keep doing what I love :)
Wow, this is the first time that a dev answered me so sincerly for my review. Its nice to get some love back, haha.
Gives me a good feeling that i could also make your happy a bit.

And Yes. Being here in this forum for over a year showed how ungrateful ppl can be even though they are just consuming hard work of others for free. it makes one sad, but dont forget there are also 99 other ppl appreciating your work! Being a creator, is all about passion! And support helps greatly with that. I used to draw and write stories a lot back then, so i know!

"so if you reject a character several times, expect them to go elsewhere." - thats like one of the most juciest line that i have read in a while from a dev. This makes me really, really excited, not gonna lie, haha.
Im not a fan myself of letting the MC/husband see himself get cheated on but about the aspect that a "taken" LI gets conquered/blackmailed and after some "wallbreaking" finally succumbs to the lust. Basically Netori.

Yea i have noticed that for 3 years after release it wasnt as much content as i was hoping for actually, but then again you also have better thing to do then working on the game 24/7... like working... and stuff.. xd

I also thank you greatly for your answer. It made me happy.

Btw: i edited my former post a bit for typos and.. better wording xd
Btw 2: you really need some juicy signature banners (mom/landlady prefered lmao)
 
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OpenFire

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Hello,

It is also time for me to leave a comment as well. I guess the developer need also to have some warm message from another satisfied player.

BTW, like Jeycii, i love this game oh my, another gold nugget (of course you are in my bookmarks) but i always feel satisfied finding gems like this one :D

I enjoy story and on plus side, i've discovered that kind of litterature which is the "Isekai" genre that i didn't know it has that name.
Just a quick confirmation (sorry if that already been asked), do you plan to add relation between characters like Noriko/Asumi or Noriko/Yasuka ?
 
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Greslux

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Has anyone figured out what to unpack the .extra archive with? Is it some sort of non-standard (or custom) packer?
I pulled all the game files, but it seems like the .rpyc files are either corrupted or a header problem. I don't think they were actually corrupted in the process of taking out their archive, because if you remove the .extra and run the game with the unpacked files, the game runs fine. Perhaps Renpy additionally process rpyc files, which makes the game run, but decompiling rpyc in rpy does not work.
The first reason why I started doing this is that I wanted to disable the zoom of characters when they say a phrase. I've become overly sensitive to this sort of thing. I often turn off things that annoy me, like flashing elements moving for no apparent reason or smooth transitions between pictures.
The second reason was to create translation files through the Renpy SDK.
I ended up pulling the files out of the archive in 17 seconds, but it took a couple hours to figure out how to do it. And then I spent another couple hours trying to figure out what was wrong with the .rpyc files. Maybe the problem is a difference between versions of Renpy.
 

ohmz

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Has anyone figured out what to unpack the .extra archive with? Is it some sort of non-standard (or custom) packer?
I pulled all the game files, but it seems like the .rpyc files are either corrupted or a header problem. I don't think they were actually corrupted in the process of taking out their archive, because if you remove the .extra and run the game with the unpacked files, the game runs fine. Perhaps Renpy additionally process rpyc files, which makes the game run, but decompiling rpyc in rpy does not work.
The first reason why I started doing this is that I wanted to disable the zoom of characters when they say a phrase. I've become overly sensitive to this sort of thing. I often turn off things that annoy me, like flashing elements moving for no apparent reason or smooth transitions between pictures.
The second reason was to create translation files through the Renpy SDK.
I ended up pulling the files out of the archive in 17 seconds, but it took a couple hours to figure out how to do it. And then I spent another couple hours trying to figure out what was wrong with the .rpyc files. Maybe the problem is a difference between versions of Renpy.
The developer encrypted the rpa files to prevent people from extracting the files.
 

Greslux

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The developer encrypted the rpa files to prevent people from extracting the files.
I already realized that when I saw the archive with the .extra extension.
But I don't see the point. After all, it's a free game, not the secret codes of the Pentagon. I just don't understand what exactly was to be protected like that? Pictures? You can take screenshots. Sprites? You can cut out what you want from screenshots in photoshop. Music and videos? You can record it. Scripts so other people don't use the author's solutions in their games? I don't know, it seems to me that if someone uses the author's solutions in their games, there will be more better quality games in the world. I don't know, maybe there are some super covered algorithms out there that need to be kept secret...

I'm not criticizing the author, he can do whatever he wants with his game, he can try to protect it, he can even use encryption keys (for the first 10 minutes I thought the files were encrypted), he can use his own or unpopular compression algorithms and packers. Well done to him for using an out-of-the-box solution. I understand and respect his desire to protect a product in which he has invested a lot of time and effort, and which may be profitable in the long run. But there are thousands of games on the internet, the internet is literally cracking at the seams from the abundance of porn games and people don't worry about it because nothing can be 100% protected. Most games aren't even packaged in .rpa. Anything can be hacked, you just have to have the desire and patience. Yes, the number of people who get access will be lower, but there will still be such people. There will always be cheats, attackers, vulnerabilities, scammers, and all the side effects of the digital age.
At the moment the only game that hasn't been hacked (from what I know) is Atomic Heart, and that's in dev build.
We live in a time where nothing is 100% secure. If we are not talking about the banking system, messengers, blockchains and something really important and serious, but about games, everything is decompiled, everything is decrypted, keys are selected.
When I was working on my project, I also thought about how to protect it, what license to choose. In the end, I realized that it was impossible and just accepted the fact that we live in a time where it is impossible to protect anything 100%.

Sometimes some things don't justify complicated solutions, including the labor and author's time to implement them.
I ended up being able to access all the game files in .extra anyway, because I got the position and size of the files. I'm not out to steal content or make money off of other people's labor. I just needed to remove the zoom and I would have been playing all night.
 

RNGeusEX

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Sometimes some things don't justify complicated solutions, including the labor and author's time to implement them.
I ended up being able to access all the game files in .extra anyway, because I got the position and size of the files. I'm not out to steal content or make money off of other people's labor. I just needed to remove the zoom and I would have been playing all night.
I've decided to protect my game's assets to prevent everything from being too quickly accessible to script kiddies. I'm going to make a rather dubious comparison, but I know that there are thieves outside, but that doesn't mean I'm going to make life easy for them and leave the door of my house open -_-.

As for the fact that you want to reailize a translation, we've created tools for the community to translate it into all languages.



If your language isn't on the list, send a message to the discord, and we'll give you enough rights so that you can translate it into your language, and you'll even be able to find people who want to help you.

This is good practice, this is the right way to go.

and for the zoom that seems to be bothering you, you could simply have suggested it on the discord and we'd have added it to the list of options for the next build.

It takes more time, but then again, that's how things have to work, otherwise everyone does what they want and no one respects anything.
 
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I've decided to protect my game's assets to prevent everything from being too quickly accessible to script kiddies. I'm going to make a rather dubious comparison, but I know that there are thieves outside, but that doesn't mean I'm going to make life easy for them and leave the door of my house open -_-.

As for the fact that you want to reailize a translation, we've created tools for the community to translate it into all languages.



If your language isn't on the list, send a message to the discord, and we'll give you enough rights so that you can translate it into your language, and you'll even be able to find people who want to help you.

This is good practice, this is the right way to go.

and for the zoom that seems to be bothering you, you could simply have suggested it on the discord and we'd have added it to the list of options for the next build.

It takes more time, but then again, that's how things have to work, otherwise everyone does what they want and no one respects anything.
With quality art like this, FULL SUPPORT for encryption and protection. Make those theiving work for it if they really want it. Someday, when you no longer care about the project, releasing the art as assets for folk to make their own homages to the project makes sense, but that's on you to decide when/how.

As a side note, I've really enjoyed the story lines here, good 'game', with exceptional art to be sure but also just kinda engaging. I won't comment deeply on the story lines as I don't want to give spoilers, but thank you for the effort you have put in to make it more than just a porn game.
I rarely bother with incomplete games, but I am glad I checked this one out.
I look forward to coming back to this again sometime in the future.

Thanks again for putting in the effort. Best wishes!
 

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nothing can be 100% protected.
The purpose of 99.9% of "preventive" measures employed by literally all forms of security isn't actually to prevent as the name suggests but in reality to deter them, or in layman terms, to make them think the action isn't worth the effort.
Home security doesn't prevent a home from being invaded, it's to make people think twice about attempting.
Car security doesn't save your car from being stolen, it's to scare off people from trying.
Data encryption? Same thing. People know if a hacker has the time and skill to crack something, they can do it. But the point is to make others think that the time and effort isn't worth it.

If RNGeusex thinks that it's worth the effort to adapt this measures, then nothing you say really matters on the subject. And no offense, but it's kinda suspect that you would even take issue with it when you could have simply asked for whatever feature you wanted to be done.
 

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...Is it bad that I wanted to see MC face fuck the shit out of Akira when they were at the canal? :ROFLMAO:
Idk man, it might be weird but that would have been a really satisfying end to everything. The irony of the drug being used on him was good already, but having the option to push it just a bit more would have been perfect lmao.
RNGeusEX
 
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...Is it bad that I wanted to see MC face fuck the shit out of Akira when they were at the canal? :ROFLMAO:
Idk man, it might be weird but that would have been a really satisfying end to everything. The irony of the drug being used on him was good already, but having the option to push it just a bit more would have been perfect lmao.
RNGeusEX
It's not bad if you aren't straight.
 
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Fazed

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It's not bad if you aren't straight.
Well actually the bad would be taking advantage of someone under the influence of a drug, but Akira was going to use it on someone anyway so in some sense, he would deserve it.
 

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...Is it bad that I wanted to see MC face fuck the shit out of Akira when they were at the canal? :ROFLMAO:
Idk man, it might be weird but that would have been a really satisfying end to everything. The irony of the drug being used on him was good already, but having the option to push it just a bit more would have been perfect lmao.
RNGeusEX
"how much time and resources do you want to waste on an ugly scene nearly no one wants to see?"
Fazed: yes
 

Greslux

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I've decided to protect my game's assets to prevent everything from being too quickly accessible to script kiddies. I'm going to make a rather dubious comparison, but I know that there are thieves outside, but that doesn't mean I'm going to make life easy for them and leave the door of my house open -_-.

As for the fact that you want to reailize a translation, we've created tools for the community to translate it into all languages.



If your language isn't on the list, send a message to the discord, and we'll give you enough rights so that you can translate it into your language, and you'll even be able to find people who want to help you.

This is good practice, this is the right way to go.

and for the zoom that seems to be bothering you, you could simply have suggested it on the discord and we'd have added it to the list of options for the next build.

It takes more time, but then again, that's how things have to work, otherwise everyone does what they want and no one respects anything.

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Fazed

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"how much time and resources do you want to waste on an ugly scene nearly no one wants to see?"
Fazed: yes
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Who says it has to be ugly? I certainly dont think this art style is ugly.

Anyway it was not really meant as a request. Mostly just thought it would be a funny, if a bit dark, comment. I'd like to think the evil asshole is at least deserving of whatever he has coming, whatever manifestation that might be.
 
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Bocho

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I think I have encountered a bug or have trouble.

When Asami shows up at the protagonist's house. She talks after talking with him and goes to Noriko's room to solve things and after the discussion the protagonist appears in his room and I have to go to bed but he tells me that:

Some quests need to be completed before the end of the day.

I've been all over the map and haven't gotten anything.

The missions that I see pending:

Asami: I should go home and get some rest.

Noriko: Go to find Asami in your room.


Does anyone have an idea what I should do?
I'm leaving the game saved in case it's of any use.
 
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