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Dragon59

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whiskey in rye.
The Levee was a bar that closed down (or ran out of alcohol - hence "The Levee was dry"), so they drove their Chevy across the river to Rye (NY).
Hmm... Most lyrics sites seem to say either "whiskey and rye," or "whiskey 'n rye." I could see where some would hear "in" when he says "'n." I did find a few that said "whiskey in rye," but they were in the minority.
 
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Dorfnutter

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Hmm... Most lyrics sites seem to say either "whiskey and rye," or "whiskey 'n rye." I could see where some would hear "in" when he says "'n." I did find a few that said "whiskey in rye," but they were in the minority.
Me being dragged to a thread I've never been before for some reason:

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Dorfnutter

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Oh, I know. I suspect he quoted you for some reason, then reacted here and added your quote by accident.

Anyway, here you go:
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Hmmm ... a bit faster in the browser than on my computer. Weird. Still good though.
Yeah, that's what I thought too (though for a moment I thought I was being dragged here to overanalyze some plot point or something XD).
 
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mrttao

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I don't really consider Google to be a minority on the internet.
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You are trying to argue appeal to authority based on marketshare here when he explicitly said "most sites"
google does not claim to be the source of these lyrics. it just provides the lyrics from "musixmatch". (it explicitly lists the source).

However, Dragon59 said "most sites". Not "the sites with the most marketshare".
so you are arguing something completely different than what he said
 

Elhemeer

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IDK, Google show it as "in"
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It's genuine that there was a bar called The Levee in New Rochelle, where he lived.
Rye (NY) is not very far.
As rye basically is whiskey, to me, it seems more plausible than "whiskey & rye".

Our local bar's run dry, so we've gone across the river to Rye, where they still have whiskey, them good ol' boys.
Or
Our bar's gone dry, but the good old boys were drinking whiskey & whiskey.
Former seems more likely, to me.
You are trying to argue appeal to authority based on marketshare here when he explicitly said "most sites"
google does not claim to be the source of these lyrics. it just provides the lyrics from "musixmatch". (it explicitly lists the source).

However, Dragon59 said "most sites". Not "the sites with the most marketshare".
so you are arguing something completely different than what he said
Damn ... not even Wikipedia talks about that line. Someone'll have to go watch the documentary on Paramount+ ... otherwise this is turning into the next "obsessively inane" debate ...
 

whichone

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You are trying to argue appeal to authority based on marketshare here when he explicitly said "most sites"
google does not claim to be the source of these lyrics. it just provides the lyrics from "musixmatch". (it explicitly lists the source).

However, Dragon59 said "most sites". Not "the sites with the most marketshare".
so you are arguing something completely different than what he said
Get over it, it was a 1 line joke, which I edited a while back, anyway.
 
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Old Grumpy Wolf

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Bourbon is a type of whiskey.
If you had a night out drinking Jack Daniels most people (over here) would consider it a night on the whiskey.
Bourbon is a type, yes. But still not. But back to rye. Here in the States, rye is made with rye mash, not corn mash, which is what most whiskeys are made from. Another fact is that to be called rye, it has to have 51% rye mash or higher.
 

Orgitas

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People here in the uk, at least, don't refer to things like JD as whiskey. It's a bourbon. Like we don't refer Guinness as a beer but a stout. It feels like an insult to call JD a whiskey as it is then lumped with actual many decent whiskeys.
 

whichone

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Bourbon is a type, yes. But still not. But back to rye. Here in the States, rye is made with rye mash, not corn mash, which is what most whiskeys are made from. Another fact is that to be called rye, it has to have 51% rye mash or higher.
Would you differentiate, when recounting the night to friends, if you drank some bourbon + some rye on a night out? IDK how things are done, in America.
Over here, in England, most people I know wouldn't, because we're lazy, so lump it in together. They're all just US whiskey.
We would, however, differentiate drinking Scotch whisky, from bourbon (even while called whiskey).

All I know, is that Rye is a place close to McLean's hometown & The Levee was a bar in his hometown.
So it makes sense, to me, for him to be singing about a time when the bar was dry, so they drove to a neighbouring area where they had booze.

Edit: Just read that, much like rye's 51%, bourbon has the same req for 51% corn mash & it has to be aged in new charred oak barrels.
Both seem to have specific things that must be met, in order to earn the name.
 
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