VN Ren'Py Grandma's House [Part 5 v0.72] [Moonbox]

[Elhemeer]

Hi,

The save now screen even says to rollback and NOT to save on it, or my reading comprehension has gone wonky.

I may be wrong, but at lease my code "hack" allowed me to load my game and finish this update.

I always save at least 2 screens before the ending save now screen, and at every important (to me) in game choice.

I do this for most games, because Players never know where Devs will pickup the save in the next update, but usually saving 2 screens before the end, those scenes are still in the next update.

This is not a perfect system for save compatibility *crossing-fingers*, but Players have to do what they have to do, so we don't lose all the time we've put into playing the game.

To piggy-back on xapican's post, The "Save Now" screen is there for a couple lines, but you HAVE to save the one where the graphic says "Save Now" AND the text starts with "Save Now", as it does in his screen shot.

You have to do this for both the end of Part 1 to play Part 2*, and now the end of Part 2 to play Part 3.

Part 1 goes to v0.16, part 2 goes to v0.37.

There is no need for "compatibility" hacks if you do this correctly.

(*or you can answer a bunch of questions at the beginning of part 2, but you can't do this for Part 3 anyway)

 

[KoGa3]

Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?

Up-to-date play, although Pre-v39 release save won't load.

In the script.rpy I've change original game code to this # Commented code, and then my save loaded, and then I immediately made a new save before playing the latest version).

label start:
    #scene blank with dissolve
    #"You need to load the save you made at the end of Part 2 to continue."
    #$ ShowMenu("load")()
       
    #return

Maybe this "hack" not "fix" could help someone else with the same issue.

Short note to the hack: this will maybe work now, but at least the variable "partTwoFinished" is not set correctly when not loading the correct game save from part 2. Don't know if that can cause troubles in the long run, but I do not recommend "bypassing" that in the game.

 

[YaYa_UnTIN2]

Whoa, peeps what the Hell, all the hate, misunderstandings!

My hack term was to say the code was commented, and that was all, no secret content bypass, etc.

I posted what worked for me, not that you should do this, this way, damn, all I was sayin' was what allowed ME to continue playing on my pre-v39 save.

xapican
Yes, I meant that I don't save on the second picture example you posted, a go back at least 2 content scenes, not the black save now screen, and before that second (your example) image or screen is shown.

Dark Silence
Did I misrepresent what my "hack" EDIT was? All I did was to comment out the code and load my pre-v39 save that was not loading with that code in the script.rpy file. I'll go back and edit my post, maybe it will be clearer to new readers.

P.S.
Facepalmers = unthinking douche, waste of life, straight ignore, F95 doesn't need more of you, not sorry.

 

[J.R.]

Whoa, peeps what the Hell, all the hate, misunderstandings!

My hack term was to say the code was commented, and that was all, no secret content bypass, etc.

I posted what worked for me, not that you should do this, this way, damn, all I was sayin' was what allowed ME to continue playing on my pre-v39 save.

xapican
Yes, I meant that I don't save on the second picture example you posted, a go back at least 2 content scenes, not the black save now screen, and before that second (your example) image or screen is shown.

Dark Silence
Did I misrepresent what my "hack" EDIT was? All I did was to comment out the code and load my pre-v39 save that was not loading with that code in the script.rpy file. I'll go back and edit my post, maybe it will be clearer to new readers.

P.S.
Facepalmers = unthinking douche, waste of life, straight ignore, F95 doesn't need more of you, not sorry.

Don't get me wrong, but your hack, as stated from Koga, may seems to work - now. But can cause troubles later on in the game because things are missing then. The "Save Now" screen is there for a reason. Well, you do you, but I already can see some using your hack even with older saves (and missing more variables) complaining later on that the game does not work...

 

[Satou Pendragon]

Whoa, peeps what the Hell, all the hate, misunderstandings!

My hack term was to say the code was commented, and that was all, no secret content bypass, etc.

I posted what worked for me, not that you should do this, this way, damn, all I was sayin' was what allowed ME to continue playing on my pre-v39 save.

xapican
Yes, I meant that I don't save on the second picture example you posted, a go back at least 2 content scenes, not the black save now screen, and before that second (your example) image or screen is shown.

Dark Silence
Did I misrepresent what my "hack" EDIT was? All I did was to comment out the code and load my pre-v39 save that was not loading with that code in the script.rpy file. I'll go back and edit my post, maybe it will be clearer to new readers.

P.S.
Facepalmers = unthinking douche, waste of life, straight ignore, F95 doesn't need more of you, not sorry.

How do I say this without it seeming offensive.
The Questions about the saves not working was enough to fill 3-4 Pages full of people asking the same god damn question without looking one post above theirs because that was answered what felt like 100.000 times. We have grown tired of this question and the People have can't follow the simplest directions provided by the Dev. It was clearly stated at

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that you need to Save at this Screen to continue in Part 3 but People still didn't want to believe that they did something wrong and that the Dev was at Fault for "destroying" the Game. Yeah it may Function now for you but who's to say that it will continue to work like that and not make problems in the future or when we have to transfer to Part 4? So I would recommend to anyone to do it the right way and not this "way". And this isn't pointed at you specifically but if Somebody uses this "edit" or however you wanna call it, can't come later and say their game broke or something because it is then their fault and not the fault of the Dev.

 

[YaYa_UnTIN2]

How do I say this without it seeming offensive.
The Questions about the saves not working was enough to fill 3-4 Pages full of people asking the same god damn question without looking one post above theirs because that was answered what felt like 100.000 times. We have grown tired of this question and the People have can't follow the simplest directions provided by the Dev. It was clearly stated at

Spoiler: This Screen

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that you need to Save at this Screen to continue in Part 3 but People still didn't want to believe that they did something wrong and that the Dev was at Fault for "destroying" the Game. Yeah it may Function now for you but who's to say that it will continue to work like that and not make problems in the future or when we have to transfer to Part 4? So I would recommend to anyone to do it the right way and not this "way". And this isn't pointed at you specifically but if Somebody uses this "edit" or however you wanna call it, can't come later and say their game broke or something because it is then their fault and not the fault of the Dev.

I get it now, but as you can read in that picture, it does not state clearly (to me) that you must save on that screen, it only ask the Player to save now and that you'll need this save to continue, and then I guess in the last screen with the ladies, tells the Player to rollback (but not how far).

I've just been going by what has worked in other Ren'Py games, and not saving on the last screen, sometimes it works, sometimes you have to restart a new game (don't like that).

Maybe say: Dear Player you must save right now on this screen (no other screens are allowed) to play the next release part whatever.

It was that last sentence wording that threw my brain into *freeze mode*.

Live and learn.

I've edited my original post.

 

[HornyyPussy]

How do I say this without it seeming offensive.
The Questions about the saves not working was enough to fill 3-4 Pages full of people asking the same god damn question without looking one post above theirs because that was answered what felt like 100.000 times. We have grown tired of this question and the People have can't follow the simplest directions provided by the Dev. It was clearly stated at

Spoiler: This Screen

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that you need to Save at this Screen to continue in Part 3 but People still didn't want to believe that they did something wrong and that the Dev was at Fault for "destroying" the Game. Yeah it may Function now for you but who's to say that it will continue to work like that and not make problems in the future or when we have to transfer to Part 4? So I would recommend to anyone to do it the right way and not this "way". And this isn't pointed at you specifically but if Somebody uses this "edit" or however you wanna call it, can't come later and say their game broke or something because it is then their fault and not the fault of the Dev.

 

[HornyyPussy]

I get it now, but as you can read in that picture, it does not state clearly (to me) that you must save on that screen, it only ask the Player to save now and that you'll need this save to continue, and then I guess in the last screen with the ladies, tells the Player to rollback (but not how far).

I've just been going by what has worked in other Ren'Py games, and not saving on the last screen, sometimes it works, sometimes you have to restart a new game (don't like that).

Maybe say: Dear Player you must save right now on this screen (no other screens are allowed) to play the next release part whatever.

It was that last sentence wording that threw my brain into *freeze mode*.

Live and learn.

I've edited my original post.

Seriously? The "you'll need this save to play Part 3" wasn't clear enough for you?

 

[YaYa_UnTIN2]

Seriously? The "you'll need this save to play Part 3" wasn't clear enough for you?

This would have been:

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[HornyyPussy]

This would have been:

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And of course you had to go there........not unexpected unfortunately.

 

[Satou Pendragon]

YaYa_UnTIN2
Just a simple sentence because you can speak normally as seen in your reply to me but if you don't want to be treated by "rabid fans" as you say maybe you should read and answer normally and without sarcasm.

 

[Satou Pendragon]

And of course you had to go there........not unexpected unfortunately.

Yeah it was sadly to be expected.

 

[J.R.]

This would have been:

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OK, seems you still don't get it, had actually hope for that. And since you had to do that "funny" post here one from me.
But it's not funny, I mean it:

YOUR HACK CAN POSSIBLY BREAK THE FURTHER PLAYTHROUGH.
POSTING IT AND SAYING IT'S MAYBE USEFULL FOR OTHERS WILL
ONLY END FOR SOME HAVING TO REPLAY PART 3 AGAIN LATER ON.

Was that clear enough for you?

 

[HornyyPussy]

MoonBox can u confirm on this

Vanilla sex with the Magnificent 7™ isn't optional but kinks are so it's not impossible but I don't see those 2 being in to that but with MB you never know

Doubt he's gonna spoil it now though......

 

[_doodle_]

Vanilla sex with the Magnificent 7™ isn't optional but kinks are so it's not impossible but I don't see those 2 being in to that but with MB you never know

Doubt he's gonna spoil it now though......

where is the second signature from?

 

[RDFozz]

OK, seems you still don't get it, had actually hope for that. And since you had to do that "funny" post here one from me.
But it's not funny, I mean it:

YOUR HACK CAN POSSIBLY BREAK THE FURTHER PLAYTHROUGH.
POSTING IT AND SAYING IT'S MAYBE USEFULL FOR OTHERS WILL
ONLY END FOR SOME HAVING TO REPLAY PART 3 AGAIN LATER ON.

Was that clear enough for you?

You may be overly optimistic - they're likely to have to replay all of part 2 as well, unless they keep some part 2 saves around.

 

[HornyyPussy]

where is the second signature from?

https://f95zone.to/threads/exiles-ch-3-v0-4-1-tim-e-pants-games.45337/

 

[DA22]

But hope to see grandma and amelia kinky side which no one knew and will come as a suprise for MC.

I suspect that is almost guaranteed with Moonbox , we just do not know yet what those kinky sides will be and how much dev will surprise us where those two might go when they are comfortable with MC in sexual situations.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

Whoa, peeps what the Hell, all the hate, misunderstandings!

My hack term was to say the code was commented, and that was all, no secret content bypass, etc.

I posted what worked for me, not that you should do this, this way, damn, all I was sayin' was what allowed ME to continue playing on my pre-v39 save.

xapican
Yes, I meant that I don't save on the second picture example you posted, a go back at least 2 content scenes, not the black save now screen, and before that second (your example) image or screen is shown.

Dark Silence
Did I misrepresent what my "hack" EDIT was? All I did was to comment out the code and load my pre-v39 save that was not loading with that code in the script.rpy file. I'll go back and edit my post, maybe it will be clearer to new readers.

P.S.
Facepalmers = unthinking douche, waste of life, straight ignore, F95 doesn't need more of you, not sorry.

I have no issue that you made an edit. It's the fact that you're bypassing the code MoonBox setup which could break your game later and sharing it. Which could break other people's games and who do you think they will they come after if it does? Not you. My problem is simple. If people would learn to save in the proper place, they wouldn't need a hack/edit that could possibly break their game and if it does, it's Moonbox who will take the heat.

 

[random_throwaway]

Sigh.
The amount of times people haven't understood that SAVE NOW = SAVE HERE. I try to be an understanding person, hey maybe their comprehension isn't fully fleshed you know? But I mean come on.

It's especially worse when you're here, on a forum, playing a VN that lets say hundreds of people have played and discussed at length, and believe that you have found something that no one has ever found, or brought up in said forum before. If you have time to start writing a reply here enquiring or just complaining about "x mistake or bug" perhaps wonder if anyone else has asked it before. Because pretty much everytime, someone has.

And this is partly why I don't write anything, because what I see from the small minority of people just does my head in