Ren'Py Gunpowder Cocktail [v0.6.0] [ByteHog Prime]

[ByteHog Prime]

I just need more of
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It's coming, more than you'd ever want

I thought you stopped making this game, good to see you back. If you start posting regular updates ill buy the game on steam

hope you continue the game and the update comes soon

Thanks, I have been posting regularly for a few months. The update is coming, the game goes on and will go on.

 

[NemesisGames]

I hope you'll be fair when the update is released and we'll see a positive version of these hateful comments.

When the update comes, you’ll be flooded with positivity.

More fans will come in and express excitement for the future of the game. It’ll feel like you proved the “haters” wrong. And then you’ll roll up your sleeves and start on the next update.

But I worry you’re not seeing the big picture here.

You cannot produce content at a high enough volume to release regular updates. This is shown not just from your history, but by other developers who make very detailed, high-quality renders and display them one-by-one.

To avoid a several-years-plus development time, you have to rethink not just your workflow, but the game structure. Every-time you sit at your computer you should think how can I make this scale?

Here are some ideas:

• Convert it to a visual novel. Create a main label, call to each of your character story scripts before returning. You can even interweave the sandbox/sleeping events. Without sandbox, you no longer have to worry about populating an entire world with sandbox characters, environments and activities.
• Decrease variations in shots and poses. If it’s just two people talking, the scene doesn’t have to be super dynamic. Just shoot the same scene with multiple cameras to capture different view points, and splice back and forth between them.
• Shoot at once all the scenes occurring in a particular location. This is how movie production works. There’s a significant cost in time when you switch between environments and scenes. Grouping these shots by location decreases production time.
• Use pre-made poses, if you aren’t already. Posing is one of the most time consuming things for a 3D artist. I suppose you could hire an artist to do it, but I assume that like me, you lack the funds to do it.
• Render characters in canvases and then re-use those renders across multiple scenes. Even AAA developers aren’t creating original assets for every shot — they reuse them. They have entire engines to “copy and paste” them with small variations so players don’t notice the re-use

I hate using this cliche, but work smarter, not harder really applies to us solo developers, otherwise we’ll never finish a project.

 

[ByteHog Prime]

When the update comes, you’ll be flooded with positivity.

More fans will come in and express excitement for the future of the game. It’ll feel like you proved the “haters” wrong. And then you’ll roll up your sleeves and start on the next update.

But I worry you’re not seeing the big picture here.

You cannot produce content at a high enough volume to release regular updates. This is shown not just from your history, but by other developers who make very detailed, high-quality renders and display them one-by-one.

To avoid a several-years-plus development time, you have to rethink not just your workflow, but the game structure. Every-time you sit at your computer you should think how can I make this scale?

Here are some ideas:

• Convert it to a visual novel. Create a main label, call to each of your character story scripts before returning. You can even interweave the sandbox/sleeping events. Without sandbox, you no longer have to worry about populating an entire world with sandbox characters, environments and activities.
• Decrease variations in shots and poses. If it’s just two people talking, the scene doesn’t have to be super dynamic. Just shoot the same scene with multiple cameras to capture different view points, and splice back and forth between them.
• Shoot at once all the scenes occurring in a particular location. This is how movie production works. There’s a significant cost in time when you switch between environments and scenes. Grouping these shots by location decreases production time.
• Use pre-made poses, if you aren’t already. Posing is one of the most time consuming things for a 3D artist. I suppose you could hire an artist to do it, but I assume that like me, you lack the funds to do it.
• Render characters in canvases and then re-use those renders across multiple scenes. Even AAA developers aren’t creating original assets for every shot — they reuse them. They have entire engines to “copy and paste” them with small variations so players don’t notice the re-use

I hate using this cliche, but work smarter, not harder really applies to us solo developers, otherwise we’ll never finish a project.

Thank you for the advice, I am also aware of these things and you're right with the

"You cannot produce content at a high enough volume to release regular updates. This is shown not just from your history, but by other developers who make very detailed, high-quality renders and display them one-by-one."

But unfortunately I can't do most of these things you mentioned(except the pre-made poses, already using some when it fits). Because all these will reduce the quality of the final product. I don't feel like it. Don't ask me why, I just can't. It just suits me better to work harder to make the highest quality instead of cutting quality. That's for sure makes my work more difficult, but I can't be satisfied otherwise.

 

[tmu500]

Thank you for the advice, I am also aware of these things and you're right with the


But unfortunately I can't do most of these things you mentioned(except the pre-made poses, already using some when it fits). Because all these will reduce the quality of the final product. I don't feel like it. Don't ask me why, I just can't. It just suits me better to work harder to make the highest quality instead of cutting quality. That's for sure makes my work more difficult, but I can't be satisfied otherwise.

Thanks for the post and keep up the great work.

 

[TigerWolfe]

Yeah buddy you know what, it looks like I'm just wasting my time. I won't even reply to you at this point.

It's the best approach.

 

[amin2020]

I like this game very much, I am counting the minutes for its update to be released

 

[kad_gilek]

I like this game very much, I am counting the minutes for its update to be released

you will count billions minutes then

 

[fidgetspinner]

Yeah buddy you know what, it looks like I'm just wasting my time. I won't even reply to you at this point.

Good. Back to work. You still haven't released anything in 9 months. Wasting your time replying here will not help you get it out or convinced your detractor like myself that you respect your subscriber enough to work on a quality product released in a decent time.

The only way to shut me up and make me realize the errors of my ways is to release an amazing update then go back to work and release another and another and another. Consistency in quality and productivity is the best way to make me shut the fuck up. I dream of Dev doing that and i have not been afraid to pay them.

 

[Kimsan007]

Haven't read such bs in quite some time. Folks being this demanding are ignorant and selfish.




This is just a complete garbage take, even if he delivers what People like to see doesn't necessarily mean he will get more Subs.



No it does not have to be, his decision is what comes in each Update. Don't like then move on with your life.

I'm typing this not to defend Bytehog but more so Devs in general that have to deal with freeloaders such as you.

We need dickriders like you for the balance

 

[Hentai_Lover00]

It's coming, more than you'd ever want



Thanks, I have been posting regularly for a few months. The update is coming, the game goes on and will go on.

Great to hear that. I just wanna say stick to your own story line and progress the game updates. Just make sure its on a regular basis. you know like 1 update (not too short though haha) per 2-3 months like that

best of luck. great renders and interesting story

 

[rafa30]

I like

 

[James013]

Hello everyone,
Nothing happens with Sophie in the Christmas episode?
we buy her a bottle of wine and 1 outfit... but nothing happens??

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Hello everyone,
Nothing happens with Sophie in the Christmas episode?
we buy her a bottle of wine and 1 outfit... but nothing happens??

Welcome to Gunpowder Cocktail

 

[James013]

Ok

 

[fidgetspinner]

Hello everyone,
Nothing happens with Sophie in the Christmas episode?
we buy her a bottle of wine and 1 outfit... but nothing happens??

What happened is Dev stopped working on the main game for months to make a Christmas Special. He failed to deliver on time a complete special and the backlash on his discord for a half-baked special nobody give a shit when the main game is not going anywhere made him cancel the plans to continue the special. So instead of a new update with nice scene or a special non-canon christmas episode we got nothing for months.

 

[ByteHog Prime]

What happened is Dev stopped working on the main game for months to make a Christmas Special. He failed to deliver on time a complete special and the backlash on his discord for a half-baked special nobody give a shit when the main game is not going anywhere made him cancel the plans to continue the special. So instead of a new update with nice scene or a special non-canon christmas episode we got nothing for months.

You must have serious reading comprehension issues, my friend. But let me tell you again since you're trying so hard to spread misinformation about me. I didn't work on the Christmas episode for months, nor did I stop working on the main game for it. When I was working on the main Steam update, I also wanted to give people an extra episode for christmas at the end of all the unfortunate events. I made that episode in 2 weeks.

The biggest reason why it took a long time to release the main 0.6 update was because my patreon account was shut down, I was trying to get it back, but couldn't, and I'm not going to lie, it was very hard on me mentally. After all, it was an account I had been working and growing for 1.5 years. Anyway, then tried Steam with Subscribestar, and there was a certain waiting period to release a game on Steam for the first time. And then, at the end of it all, I was able to release the update.

That's it. There were unexpected setbacks outside the general flow. None of it was for my own pleasure. I used to post regular updates every 2 months on patreon, but that's life. Sometimes shit happens.

Anyway, hopefully this update will be a nice comeback.

 

[fidgetspinner]

You must have serious reading comprehension issues, my friend. But let me tell you again since you're trying so hard to spread misinformation about me. I didn't work on the Christmas episode for months, nor did I stop working on the main game for it. When I was working on the main Steam update, I also wanted to give people an extra episode for christmas at the end of all the unfortunate events. I made that episode in 2 weeks.

The biggest reason why it took a long time to release the main 0.6 update was because my patreon account was shut down, I was trying to get it back, but couldn't, and I'm not going to lie, it was very hard on me mentally. After all, it was an account I had been working and growing for 1.5 years. Anyway, then tried Steam with Subscribestar, and there was a certain waiting period to release a game on Steam for the first time. And then, at the end of it all, I was able to release the update.

That's it. There were unexpected setbacks outside the general flow. None of it was for my own pleasure. I used to post regular updates every 2 months on patreon, but that's life. Sometimes shit happens.

Anyway, hopefully this update will be a nice comeback.

End result was no update for months, halfbaked christmas special abandoned. Steam Release 3 months later and since nothing.

 

[shiqz]

You must have serious reading comprehension issues, my friend. But let me tell you again since you're trying so hard to spread misinformation about me. I didn't work on the Christmas episode for months, nor did I stop working on the main game for it. When I was working on the main Steam update, I also wanted to give people an extra episode for christmas at the end of all the unfortunate events. I made that episode in 2 weeks.

The biggest reason why it took a long time to release the main 0.6 update was because my patreon account was shut down, I was trying to get it back, but couldn't, and I'm not going to lie, it was very hard on me mentally. After all, it was an account I had been working and growing for 1.5 years. Anyway, then tried Steam with Subscribestar, and there was a certain waiting period to release a game on Steam for the first time. And then, at the end of it all, I was able to release the update.

That's it. There were unexpected setbacks outside the general flow. None of it was for my own pleasure. I used to post regular updates every 2 months on patreon, but that's life. Sometimes shit happens.

Anyway, hopefully this update will be a nice comeback.

No point in argueing, just see his posts and you'll know what i mean. Don't bother and ignore him, that's the best you can do.

 

[retadrddoge]

idk i guess i only played recently, maybe some of you guys waited too long( i didnt) so i cant be mad at dev. but still no need to disrespect dev after all were all sinking grease losers play for free, instead should thank dev for this ugly bastard game. thank u dev give us more ugly bastards.

 

[ljabc]

You must have serious reading comprehension issues, my friend. But let me tell you again since you're trying so hard to spread misinformation about me. I didn't work on the Christmas episode for months, nor did I stop working on the main game for it. When I was working on the main Steam update, I also wanted to give people an extra episode for christmas at the end of all the unfortunate events. I made that episode in 2 weeks.

The biggest reason why it took a long time to release the main 0.6 update was because my patreon account was shut down, I was trying to get it back, but couldn't, and I'm not going to lie, it was very hard on me mentally. After all, it was an account I had been working and growing for 1.5 years. Anyway, then tried Steam with Subscribestar, and there was a certain waiting period to release a game on Steam for the first time. And then, at the end of it all, I was able to release the update.

That's it. There were unexpected setbacks outside the general flow. None of it was for my own pleasure. I used to post regular updates every 2 months on patreon, but that's life. Sometimes shit happens.

Anyway, hopefully this update will be a nice comeback.

I love your work,keep going