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I had played this game during its first versions and it seems to have changed quite a bit I would have liked to have some explanation on the tags and what I quickly read on the thread.
-For the fdom concerns the mc? And if so, is it rather soft or hard? And possibility of reverse the table?
-For the lesbian scene is the mc aware or is it "behind his back"?
-For super-powers, does the mc have any? And if so he is rather powerful / has a high potential or is he a bit of everyone else's bitch?

These are the only questions I can think of at the moment.
Thank you.

Edit: Ah! I just remembered one other, For the end-of-update cliffhangers how is it? Frustrating? Too much? Not at all? A little?
1. Femdom is only Lezdom. With the exception of one scene which is a cosplay session which is completly avoidable. It is a Maledom game.
2. Fully aware of it. And 90% except the very beginning he is the supervisor or instructor.
3. That would spoil you too much. He has a Power which makes him special. More is too much.
4. That's a matter of taste and cant clearly be answered. You have literally hours of gameplay. Don't think about cliffhangers, try to catch up. hachigames is one of the few devs who delivers every month on point. Can't praise that enough. Therefore, you have a lot of content. That should take you a while, and then see yourself.

P.s. We really need a Lezdom Tag.
 
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Fiufia

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I had played this game during its first versions and it seems to have changed quite a bit I would have liked to have some explanation on the tags and what I quickly read on the thread.
-For the fdom concerns the mc? And if so, is it rather soft or hard? And possibility of reverse the table?
-For the lesbian scene is the mc aware or is it "behind his back"?
-For super-powers, does the mc have any? And if so he is rather powerful / has a high potential or is he a bit of everyone else's bitch?

These are the only questions I can think of at the moment.
Thank you.

Edit: Ah! I just remembered one other, For the end-of-update cliffhangers how is it? Frustrating? Too much? Not at all? A little?
No, the game doesn't have fdom one or two girls are more bossy but it's about other girls with the MC it's just a dispute of who rules the island, nothing sexual.
MC like to see when it happens and the game doesn't have real lesbians is more all girls are bi
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the last two updates will leave me with a lot of enthusiasm to see what was going to happen. This last one not so much but for me it wasn't bad. Basically introduced a new girl that you will have to dominate
 
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3. That would spoil you too much. He has a Power which makes him special. More is too much.
Oh a little spoiler doesn't bother me as long as it's resonable but thanks.

Thanks to you and Fiufia, I'll play the game again when I have some time (and no family on vacation at home)
 

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A few thoughts about . . . Nadia.

Let's say I'm on a date with Nadia in real life.

Then she says just one of the repulsive things that she has said to the MC -- the date ends immediately. I take her home and never interact with her again. Never.

She crossed the line. There is no relationship possible with her.

We certainly never want her to become a member of our harem. Never. No matter if she reforms.

Nadia as an adversary whom we eliminate -- good.

But Nadia as an adversary whom we reform (like we reformed Leah and Sarah) -- no. (Maybe hachi can make this work, but I think it is a difficult problem.)

I agree that the story needs an adversary.

Maybe it's time -- this time -- for the adversary (Nadia) to be killed.

That would be new!
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Also, I agree with the commentator above who said the punishments were harder at the beginning of the story, and that the arrival of Nadia could make the punishments actual punishments again.

Remember at the very beginning . . . the Alice punishments in the kitchen?

Those were real punishments.

And Sonya taken to the public square and whipped? (I think it was Sonya.)

So . . . I could imagine Nadia unfairly and severely punishing Scarlet (for example), and this could lead to the elimination of Nadia.

At which point, all the players around the world cheer!
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In summary, I think the players who are complaining about Nadia are complaining about what they fear will happen.

Well, we don't know yet.

Hachi is a skillful storyteller, and I believe he will make Nadia work -- whatever he is planning.
 

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I don't like this Nadia stuff either. The execution in this update was just plain horrible, she was shoved in for the sake of convenience without any good reasoning behind it (felt like you needed a new baddy so anything went for that reason like her sudden "takeover"), it went against not only normal but even in-game logic (Dik never contacted the MC about a massive change like that or even considered talking about it with him while he already became heavily invested in the island), it teared apart most of the characterizations that was built up so far both for Leah and the MC ("imma fight to regain my position", "I won't go against her because of the Island") and alltogether it's just simply doesn't work. Unless the current content of her would get a massive redo, which I doubt that will happen because that would affect later events and how exactly they plays out as well, this has pretty much fucked the main story flow, which was honestly going pretty well so far. Creating conflict is one thing, creating conflict by using incoherent tools for the sake of conflict is another, and not a good one.
 

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Whoops. That guy was supposed to be invisible.

The options in the punishment will be available in the next version. The dialog options being in there is an accident for this version using the newer version of this quest instead of the appropriate one.
ooh, haha ok, i was getting ready to punish hazel kuz she keeps saying that she does not have anything new in the shop, even tho i keep saying to alice that i will be right back i need something :))
 
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I played this update again just to see if I can understood all the criticism. But no, i don't understand especially those who say that Nadia ruined the story.
She being higher ranking than Leah makes perfect sense. And from the comments I think a lot of people didn't realize that she doesn't have the same ranking as the MC anymore. The MC still is the island's boss
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For me Nadia is just another girl who will join to our harem. I don't even see her like a villain
And someone can explain to me what Nadia did so bad compared to Sarah? Because until now Sarah did worse things (and no is not all Eris fault)
 
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Alaris

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Interesting. Would give it a try.
I have a question: by the "already in last version" u mean this game is almost finished or "previous version"?
 

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Interesting. Would give it a try.
I have a question: by the "already in last version" u mean this game is almost finished or "previous version"?
It's just features that have been added in the previous version, but weren't in the changelog.
 
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Do we have to download the entire game everytime new update release? or did they compressed it already? i am too lazy to read the comment section 1 by 1, thanks guys..forgive my lazyness.;)
 

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Do we have to download the entire game everytime new update release? or did they compressed it already? i am too lazy to read the comment section 1 by 1, thanks guys..forgive my lazyness.;)
It's already compressed, yes. There are no incremental updates as of yet. I'll probably do that once the game goes over ~2.5 gb
 
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A few thoughts about . . . Nadia.

Let's say I'm on a date with Nadia in real life.

Then she says just one of the repulsive things that she has said to the MC -- the date ends immediately. I take her home and never interact with her again. Never.

She crossed the line. There is no relationship possible with her.

We certainly never want her to become a member of our harem. Never. No matter if she reforms.

Nadia as an adversary whom we eliminate -- good.

But Nadia as an adversary whom we reform (like we reformed Leah and Sarah) -- no. (Maybe hachi can make this work, but I think it is a difficult problem.)

I agree that the story needs an adversary.

Maybe it's time -- this time -- for the adversary (Nadia) to be killed.

That would be new!
------------------
Also, I agree with the commentator above who said the punishments were harder at the beginning of the story, and that the arrival of Nadia could make the punishments actual punishments again.

Remember at the very beginning . . . the Alice punishments in the kitchen?

Those were real punishments.

And Sonya taken to the public square and whipped? (I think it was Sonya.)

So . . . I could imagine Nadia unfairly and severely punishing Scarlet (for example), and this could lead to the elimination of Nadia.

At which point, all the players around the world cheer!
--------
In summary, I think the players who are complaining about Nadia are complaining about what they fear will happen.

Well, we don't know yet.

Hachi is a skillful storyteller, and I believe he will make Nadia work -- whatever he is planning.
You'd take her back to her house? I'd get up and leave her with the check.
 

Fiufia

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Let me rephrase it. Nadia's implementation and execution in 0.22 and 0.23 ruined the story of the last 5 Months. Since Jeanne jammed the communication. The mysterious intruder was exciting. She is just a crazy new adversary.
You posted it yourself. Let's go. Time for Fantalk. :)
Ok you were waiting for something more like a new enemy and you get just another girl who will join to our harem. I can see if you get a little disappointed. (but that's is basically what happened with Yuki) I think you are trying to go too fast. The game still goes on V-0.23

Why does that make sense? It doesn't make sense in the slightest, that was the first thing I couldn't believe reading in 0.22. A Person who spends 20 years as POW and then comes back from the dead would get a Medal and would be sent home or like in this case with PTSD in a specialized hospital. But they will never be back in their Position. Never.
To command something is an appointment, not a rank. Leah was appointed after Nadia, so Nadia isn't the Commander anymore. She can't be because there is another one sitting on her chair.
Leah's reaction are weak, but needed to be weak because Nadia needs the Plot Armor because otherwise her arc can't work.
Therefore, If somebody said Leah's character is destroyed. I would say he has a point.
From Leah perspective Nadia is a figure she respects that she admire who teach her everything she knows. I don't see the problem here.
That's why when Nadia pops up Leah follow her even though Leah at this point still have more authority than Nadia.
I think you're forgetting this is fiction this is not exactly a military story based on reality. And by the way she is at home, her house is the island.

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My summary of potential problems identified with Nadia:

1. The MC's reaction to her seems to make him too weak of a person.

2. Leah's reaction to her seems to make her too weak of a person, to the extent that her character may have changed. This may make Leah fans sad. They want dependable, no-nonsense Leah back.

3. Some players think Nadia has so overstepped the line that to enter into a relationship with her in the future is a no. She's just not worth the effort to reform. And even if she were to reform, it probably wouldn't be a believable reform. Also, a burned bridge remains a burned bridge. (This I think is the most difficult problem, if the story will lead to Nadia being in our harem. How to unburn a burned bridge?)

4. There could be some plot holes about Dik and how Nadia obtained her position. Background information could explain those.

5. Fear that Nadia will become the focus of the game, when we'd rather see more Scarlet, etc. . .

6. Not wanting to have to listen to Nadia's verbal denigrations and have the MC just listen and accept those. Nadia has unfortunately been put in a position where the MC can't shut her out. This is maybe too much reality for men who have to listen to women like this in their real lives. Women denigrate men all the time, and we don't enter into relationships with those women; and if by some unfortunate event we marry a woman who denigrates us, then we live a life of misery. We play a game to escape that repulsive behavior. But Nadia can't be shut out.

My summary of potential benefits of having Nadia.

1. Adversary who could add to the story and make the punishments more harsh. An island under Nadia's power is a terrible place to live. That could lead to good lewd content and motivation to get rid of Nadia for good.

And one obvious success:

1. If hachi wanted to create an adversary that the players hate: he did. Success. We dislike her intensely. That's good.

But . . . it's not the same dislike as we had with Sarah. Sarah was a horrible person, but her elitism was so extreme that it was also comical. You could laugh at Sarah while disliking her. I'll say that again: from first meeting her, you could always laugh at Sarah while disliking her. This is why the players have accepted her into the harem. Because you could laugh at Sarah's ridiculous elitism, the bridge to a relationship with her wasn't completely burned. So, is there a hidden unburned bridge that can reconcile us with Nadia?
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Edit: This game is a comedy, and it has a lighthearted feel that Nadia seems to change.

But . . . if there's a way we could laugh at Nadia while still disliking her . . . and there is . . .

Let's say Nadia ALWAYS talks to EVERYONE with this same denigrating language.

Let's say we even see her denigrating HERSELF while looking at herself in a mirror.

Then . . . the player thinks: Aha! I still dislike her, but she's a comical person now. That could be the beginning of a softening toward her.

But I'd still rather have her banished or killed ! ! !
 
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