VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.2] [Runey]

[TheDevian]

It's still easier said than done with the people currently holding positions of power and in the majority. It isn't the only way, just the only one that is feasible with the resources we currently have. There's always buying out the population and moving them out of the influence of other owners, not even necessarily out of Syl'anar, just somewhere only we have access to them without consequences for trying to mess with them. Doable, but we need more resources than we have now to pull it off.

That's the problem I have with those methods, we may not have a decade. The elves may or may not be safe for now, but nothing says that can't change within said decade. A decade is a pretty long time in human terms.

This is where that media campaign comes into effect. And even something as simple as the facebook style campaign that I was talking about would start earning money that could be used to fund more things, and some of those could then be used to fund more things, and so on.

Well, the more we people we convince, the less likely it is that such an outcome would come to pass. We are not super heroes, just a human with a massive dick, there are only so many things we can do, but I am sure that whatever it is, will be enough to save most of them, and make us a happy future.

Making the world better, one person at a time.

The key with this plan is that we will not put all of our eggs in one basket. We have to work it from a lot of angles, and hit it from every side. Convincing the people people, trashing anyone running for office that is an elf hater, buying/employing as many as we can, and more.

 

[tiesthatbind]

I can't seem to progress Kali past level 13. Everyone else is in their 20s and 30s and I can't figure out what I am missing with Kali.

 

[Runey]

I can't seem to progress Kali past level 13. Everyone else is in their 20s and 30s and I can't figure out what I am missing with Kali.

Click on her door at friendship 13 with Kali.

 

[tiesthatbind]

Click on her door at friendship 13 with Kali.

I click on her door, there is no "talk" option, and I go in and I have the different normal interaction but nothing to progress her relationship.

 

[alex2011]

This is where that media campaign comes into effect. And even something as simple as the facebook style campaign that I was talking about would start earning money that could be used to fund more things, and some of those could then be used to fund more things, and so on.

Well, the more we people we convince, the less likely it is that such an outcome would come to pass. We are not super heroes, just a human with a massive dick, there are only so many things we can do, but I am sure that whatever it is, will be enough to save most of them, and make us a happy future.

Making the world better, one person at a time.

The key with this plan is that we will not put all of our eggs in one basket. We have to work it from a lot of angles, and hit it from every side. Convincing the people people, trashing anyone running for office that is an elf hater, buying/employing as many as we can, and more.

Indeed, I'm assuming you're talking about ad revenue since most social media sites are free to use. Ad revenue itself doesn't make that much per ad, but it does add up when you have multiple ads and multiple advertisers. Mechanically speaking, money grind is one of the biggest complaints, not one I share, but it is there. This could serve as a way to help that as well if Runey would be willing to make a mechanical component out of it.

We are, but we also aren't alone, we can do more together than any single person, human or elf, could.

Definitely not, relying on one thing is almost always a surefire way to get a disastrous result. What if one method fails so spectacularly that we are from that point on targets of the elf haters. We most definitely need backups and backups for those backups in case something goes wrong. Relying on one thing could mean an end to the whole operation.

 

[kameohawk]

Fascinating, I've played this game for what must be hours and I've finally found something I didn't like.

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Fucking hell. Not even an option to drag her ass out of there. Instead you're left going "oh well, this is happening".

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[Runey]

I click on her door, there is no "talk" option, and I go in and I have the different normal interaction but nothing to progress her relationship.

This seems to be happening on your game only. I suggest you reinstall.

Fascinating, I've played this game for what must be hours and I've finally found something I didn't like.

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Fucking hell. Not even an option to drag her ass out of there. Instead you're left going "oh well, this is happening".

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I think you read the scene in a way I didn't intend. MC is a horny man, and likes to see naked women. When his brain took control from his penis with the help of Kali, he snapped out of horny mode and told Android she shouldn't do that, then she stopped. No bitchery afoot.

 

[tiesthatbind]

This seems to be happening on your game only. I suggest you reinstall.



I think you read the scene in a way I didn't intend. MC is a horny man, and likes to see naked women. When his brain took control from his penis with the help of Kali, he snapped out of horny mode and told Android she shouldn't do that, then she stopped. No bitchery afoot.

Ok I'll try that. Thanks for the help, and keep up the great work on the amazing game!

 

[TheDevian]

Indeed, I'm assuming you're talking about ad revenue since most social media sites are free to use. Ad revenue itself doesn't make that much per ad, but it does add up when you have multiple ads and multiple advertisers. Mechanically speaking, money grind is one of the biggest complaints, not one I share, but it is there. This could serve as a way to help that as well if Runey would be willing to make a mechanical component out of it.

We are, but we also aren't alone, we can do more together than any single person, human or elf, could.

Definitely not, relying on one thing is almost always a surefire way to get a disastrous result. What if one method fails so spectacularly that we are from that point on targets of the elf haters. We most definitely need backups and backups for those backups in case something goes wrong. Relying on one thing could mean an end to the whole operation.

Yes, exactly. Making fractions of syls per click, but when a lot of people do it, it can add up. At least enough to pay for the operation, and turn a bit of a profit to start the next thing. Once we get to the next level though, and start a production company, even a local channel can earn decent ad revenue.

Well, the money I am talking about here was not really intended to help the player, as much as help progress that arc, it would be reinvested into the business, though it is not a bad idea, if it requires the player to invest in it, it could work like the bar, they have to spend a good bit, but then it provides a passive income. It would be a pretty easy mechanic, just duplicate the bar, change some flavor text, and maybe add a new location, but that's not even really needed.

Yes, we are building a nice network, and we need to keep expanding that, use any ally we can, in whatever way is safest. (Don't let anyone get too close to the true goals, until we trust them).

If we do try to set up an 'underground railroad', something more permanent than Nia/Sui's system, we would need some place for them. Those are ones we could not keep with us, that is for sure. Not sure I would want to put the desert elves at risk either. The island would be nice, but has issues. Like you said, we would need some other kind of sanctuary for them, but how we could build a city for them, hidden somewhere that the rest of civilization can't find, I am not sure, not without some serious help. The only other option would be a literal smuggling operation, to get them out of the country, but we would still need a place to take them, and not sure if Kali's dad can help us too much on that one, it could put his position at risk, Mariella maybe, but she would have to keep it a secret too, hum... Few ways that would work out well... Not sure we could manage that, even with her team. Stick to buying as many as we can, and giving them a decent life. Could even have some be our 'liaisons to the desert elves', and send them there to live with them. We still officially 'own' them, they are there officially 'doing a job for us', and then they can freely live their lives and help the desert elf tribes grow and prosper.

 

[kameohawk]

I think you read the scene in a way I didn't intend. MC is a horny man, and likes to see naked women. When his brain took control from his penis with the help of Kali, he snapped out of horny mode and told Android she shouldn't do that, then she stopped. No bitchery afoot.

I get that, and there's certainly scenes previously where that has occurred but I think what was most jarring about it was the fact there was almost no lead up. It was like

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But I'm really nit-picking. As I said, it's probably the only bizarre thing that didn't sit right with me in the entire game and it's a fucking massive game so all the respect and love to you for making an amazing, engrossing game.

 

[paulphoenix]

Odd, it works for me, did you do her photo sessions?
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i am still fucked the event folder is still locked, the event with these white panties never show up for me. was it optional or not ? the creator is telling, it should be fixed in 0.13.2 but i think the bug is still here in 0.13.2

 

[TheDevian]

i am still fucked the event folder is still locked, the event with these white panties never show up for me. was it optional or not ? the creator is telling, it should be fixed in 0.13.2 but i think the bug is still here in 0.13.2

Okay, so I found it, that event is the first event, when she went to his room to show him her breasts. Android saw it over the cameras, and confronts her about it after the fact (which was event 12). I am having a hard time getting the event itself to trigger, because every time I load a save in that time frame, half a dozen other events start to trigger, and override that one. I have to skip through days of events before I can check anything, and by then, I can't figure it out..

I believe it is her level 11 event, which was triggered by going to the lobby at any time... (the wiki says to go to her door and hit talk, but I do not think it has been done yet).

 

[itfod]

Okay, so I found it, that event is the first event, when she went to his room to show him her breasts. Android saw it over the cameras, and confronts her about it after the fact (which was event 12). I am having a hard time getting the event itself to trigger, because every time I load a save in that time frame, half a dozen other events start to trigger, and override that one. I have to skip through days of events before I can check anything, and by then, I can't figure it out..

I believe it is her level 11 event, which was triggered by going to the lobby at any time... (the wiki says to go to her door and hit talk, but I do not think it has been done yet).

That is a lot more clarity than I've received so far regarding any question on this missing folder, thank you!

I'm not sure if I can re-load a save close enough to get this folder unlocked, but I'll give it a try!

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Interesting. I've found the event in my save files, and I've gone through it repeatedly... the event photo folder is still locked.

TheDeviant, you're right. it's her level 11 event, but it triggers in the morning just when the MC wakes up for me.

Runey, I think this might actually be a glitch, as the photography of the event is standard, but the photos don't 'save' for me, and for at least one other player.

I'd be happy to provide my save file if you need to look at it; I just need a bit of advice on how to actually FIND said save file...

 

[alex2011]

Yes, exactly. Making fractions of syls per click, but when a lot of people do it, it can add up. At least enough to pay for the operation, and turn a bit of a profit to start the next thing. Once we get to the next level though, and start a production company, even a local channel can earn decent ad revenue.

Well, the money I am talking about here was not really intended to help the player, as much as help progress that arc, it would be reinvested into the business, though it is not a bad idea, if it requires the player to invest in it, it could work like the bar, they have to spend a good bit, but then it provides a passive income. It would be a pretty easy mechanic, just duplicate the bar, change some flavor text, and maybe add a new location, but that's not even really needed.

Yes, we are building a nice network, and we need to keep expanding that, use any ally we can, in whatever way is safest. (Don't let anyone get too close to the true goals, until we trust them).

If we do try to set up an 'underground railroad', something more permanent than Nia/Sui's system, we would need some place for them. Those are ones we could not keep with us, that is for sure. Not sure I would want to put the desert elves at risk either. The island would be nice, but has issues. Like you said, we would need some other kind of sanctuary for them, but how we could build a city for them, hidden somewhere that the rest of civilization can't find, I am not sure, not without some serious help. The only other option would be a literal smuggling operation, to get them out of the country, but we would still need a place to take them, and not sure if Kali's dad can help us too much on that one, it could put his position at risk, Mariella maybe, but she would have to keep it a secret too, hum... Few ways that would work out well... Not sure we could manage that, even with her team. Stick to buying as many as we can, and giving them a decent life. Could even have some be our 'liaisons to the desert elves', and send them there to live with them. We still officially 'own' them, they are there officially 'doing a job for us', and then they can freely live their lives and help the desert elf tribes grow and prosper.

Exactly, very little at first, but bring in enough people and we're making the big bucks, which is the kind of funding we'll need for anything we could possibly do other than maintain the status quo, which is not acceptable to several characters.

That is true, what I mean is that we use this arc as an introduction to this source of income and then it is unlocked mechanically by doing what we set out to do with that funding in the first place. We're likely still going to have a little bit to go after. The bar was exactly the kind of mechanic I was thinking of.

Definitely not, don't trust anyone until they have proven they can be trusted.

An old abandoned building would suffice and it would be a nice bit of camouflage, nobody would expect a secret liberation operation to be hiding out in places like that. To use Fallout 4 again, there is a faction called The Railroad, a small group that has the goal of liberating synths so they can live free, that uses the catacombs underneath the old north church in Boston as a hideout. The church has been abandoned, as have the catacombs, for obvious reasons once you get into the game, so it is essentially abandoned like what I'm talking about.

 

[TheDevian]

Interesting. I've found the event in my save files, and I've gone through it repeatedly... the event photo folder is still locked.

TheDeviant, you're right. it's her level 11 event, but it triggers in the morning just when the MC wakes up for me.

Runey, I think this might actually be a glitch, as the photography of the event is standard, but the photos don't 'save' for me, and for at least one other player.

I'd be happy to provide my save file if you need to look at it; I just need a bit of advice on how to actually FIND said save file...

Yes, it seems to be a bug, some reason it is not triggering the gallery. Could not hurt to upload the save, maybe one of us can figure out how to fix it for you.

That is true, what I mean is that we use this arc as an introduction to this source of income and then it is unlocked mechanically by doing what we set out to do with that funding in the first place. We're likely still going to have a little bit to go after. The bar was exactly the kind of mechanic I was thinking of.

Definitely not, don't trust anyone until they have proven they can be trusted.

An old abandoned building would suffice and it would be a nice bit of camouflage, nobody would expect a secret liberation operation to be hiding out in places like that. To use Fallout 4 again, there is a faction called The Railroad, a small group that has the goal of liberating synths so they can live free, that uses the catacombs underneath the old north church in Boston as a hideout. The church has been abandoned, as have the catacombs, for obvious reasons once you get into the game, so it is essentially abandoned like what I'm talking about.

It is an interesting idea, I was just thinking about turning the bar into a strip club to make more money (and fun), but this could be a nice story driven way to earn some extra cash.

A bit harder to do that in a civilized society, and I did literally stumble onto their lair the first time, but even if we find a building that is abandoned, having a tunnel system that we could use that is not filled with sewage would be a challenge as well. What I am thinking is more like we buy that building, open another hotel, and use it as a cover to protect elves, employ them, and traffic them out when needed.

 

[itfod]

Yes, it seems to be a bug, some reason it is not triggering the gallery. Could not hurt to upload the save, maybe one of us can figure out how to fix it for you.

Ok, I've jumped into the files a bit, and I've figured out how to find the save files. Surprising how easy it is... I'm almost embarrassed by the fact that I didn't know where they were prior to ten minutes ago.

Quick-2 is the save I made just before Autumn's first event.

Quick-1 my complete up-to-date current-game save.

I'm not really sure about the save editing and source editing people have spoken about, but hopefully uploading these two will help clarify what the bug is for people.

 

[TheDevian]

Ok, I've jumped into the files a bit, and I've figured out how to find the save files. Surprising how easy it is... I'm almost embarrassed by the fact that I didn't know where they were prior to ten minutes ago.

Quick-2 is the save I made just before Autumn's first event.

Quick-1 my complete up-to-date current-game save.

I'm not really sure about the save editing and source editing people have spoken about, but hopefully uploading these two will help clarify what the bug is for people.

Okay, so here is the strange thing, I load your save, and it works fine...

So, what I am thinking is that you have something going on in the game itself not the save.
My suggestion would be to redownload it, extract it to a new folder, and then copy over your saves.

Also, on another note, I would highly recommend using real saves, and not depend on the auto saves, you could get yourself in trouble that way.

 

[itfod]

Okay, so here is the strange thing, I load your save, and it works fine...
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So, what I am thinking is that you have something going on in the game itself not the save.
My suggestion would be to redownload it, extract it to a new folder, and then copy over your saves.

Also, on another note, I would highly recommend using real saves, and not depend on the auto saves, you could get yourself in trouble that way.

Oh, that's interesting. Thanks for checking and getting back to me!

Oh, and I do use real saves; it's just that I'm a madman with about... three pages worth of them. Yes, even on this game, with the massive save game pages.

Saving a new game and using the quick save was the fastest way I could figure to actually identify exactly which save was which!

 

[TheDevian]

Oh, that's interesting. Thanks for checking and getting back to me!

Oh, and I do use real saves; it's just that I'm a madman with about... three pages worth of them. Yes, even on this game, with the massive save game pages.

Saving a new game and using the quick save was the fastest way I could figure to actually identify exactly which save was which!

I know what you mean, I am about to start page 32 on my game. XD I make no less than one save per day, and another at the start of every major scene, and important choice.

Good luck, I hope you can get it figured out.

 

[alex2011]

Yes, it seems to be a bug, some reason it is not triggering the gallery. Could not hurt to upload the save, maybe one of us can figure out how to fix it for you.

It is an interesting idea, I was just thinking about turning the bar into a strip club to make more money (and fun), but this could be a nice story driven way to earn some extra cash.

A bit harder to do that in a civilized society, and I did literally stumble onto their lair the first time, but even if we find a building that is abandoned, having a tunnel system that we could use that is not filled with sewage would be a challenge as well. What I am thinking is more like we buy that building, open another hotel, and use it as a cover to protect elves, employ them, and traffic them out when needed.

Indeed, a very nice way.

One could act as a base for this underground railroad. Fill them all with elves and let the confused screaming commence as Syl'anar authorities try to figure out who was involved, assuming they even discover it. That's actually an amusing image. They'd be in pretty deep trouble if we then catch them messing with innocent elves WE own, even better if we get video. We could then use this as blackmail or as dirt in a political campaign.