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RandyPhoenix

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This really confuses me, I'm not sure what you're asking for. Are you saying you want all the girls to be based on lust? Does that mean you want a route where you fuck them and nothing else? Harem Hotel is a visual novel, and I'm not interested in adding sex only routes. And I'm just lost at what the girl's romance based paths are and how making them sexual would be more diverse.
I'm not sure how you understand my comment complete opposite but... No... I'm not asking more sex... I'm saying nearly all girls based on lust content even ones with so called love paths.


Ellen literally has 6 events, you can see this in the stats page.
Yeah... 6 event... While a lot of character have maybe 3-6x more than her... Thats not someting i do call well-made content deploy.

And thanks for taking consideration other things i told, wish you luck with development of game.
 

Runey

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I'm not sure how you understand my comment complete opposite but... No... I'm not asking more sex... I'm saying nearly all girls based on lust content even ones with so called love paths.
I'm still lost at what you mean by "all girls based on lust content". The core of these characters aren't sex. And only two characters have love route options.

Probably a translation issue.

Yeah... 6 event... While a lot of character have maybe 3-6x more than her... Thats not someting i do call well-made content deploy.

And thanks for taking consideration other things i told, wish you luck with development of game.
Ellen is a side character, she doesn't have that much importance in the overarching story. She's not going to get character arcs where you delve deep into her past or anything like that. I take you only think it's not well made content deployment because this is one of your favorite characters? I don't imagine you saying it's bad content deployment on a character you dislike.
 
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TheDevian

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Ellen is a side character, she doesn't have that much importance in the overarching story. She's not going to get character arcs where you delve deep into her past or anything like that. I take you only think it's not well made content deployment because this is one of your favorite characters? I don't imagine you saying it's bad content deployment on a character you dislike.
She is not one of my favorites, but it could be interesting to have a few info drops with her in passing once in a while. Even if not a proper flashback, have her mention things like 'your grandfather used to do this' or 'I always enjoyed when we would do...' etc.
 

vbnmhjkl

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I think you should improve the loitering content, (which I like) especially adding variety to how they greet you based on stats and what they're wearing.
Reduce the frequency of the washroom hall loiter, or fix them, they're lower quality.
Add some loitering to the bedroom hallways and the springs. These wouldn't need an animation.
I don't like the ropes as a standard option, mainly because its so silly. These things probably take 15 minutes to put on, and they just stand around in them? They would make more sense as a rare and random event.
I would like a topless version of one outfit, for each character. The bottom would be something relatively conservative, like the maid outfit for Kali, bicycle shorts for Maria, normal jeans or yoga pants for Ashley, a loincloth for Android, a long dress skirt and dress shoes for the twins, a black nuns skirt and barefoot for Autumn, and for Lin, not sure? some kind of leafy skirt that doesn't cover the panties
 
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Loon74

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While I agree with some points, you do realize Ashley went through some pretty fucked up shit to get to where she was at the start of the game, right? I'm not saying this excuses her, at all (I REALLY fucking hate that kind of justification for shit behavior), but it does explain it. And she gets a LOT better as a person when she realizes not everyone is her enemy. Before she literally felt like it was her against the world but as her arc progresses it becomes clear she's actually a really nice caring girl with a horrible fear of rejection and being alone again.

While I agree that taking a sterner approach to her could be cool, that kind of thing would basically be an entire path of character development that would have to be written out and it would change her entire character so you'd essentially have Ashley 1 and Ashley 2. Like the love-route / slave-route for the elves, except, you know, she's a main character so that's a fuckton of work.
Oddly enough I find Ashley one of the more understandable characters. Admittedly, I have a certificate proving my sanity (it's written in crayon but it counts!) and have been around others with similar "quirky behaviour" so that arc makes most sense to me. Overcompensating when feeling threatened, latching on to those that offer any form of support? All sounds very familiar. A person can only take so much abuse before their first response to even a sideways look ends up as "go for the throat". Or any other vulnerable bits you can actually reach...

I just did a quick run through in my head of how many story points that would need to be changed for a dual path - I can see quite a few so I can appreciate why Runey hasn't done so as then you have the renders to add in as well. Yes, I map out decision trees in my head. It's the only way I can get timelines right. Curse this meatspace limitation of 3D only!

As per your review, I'm sorry you think Lin is plain and ugly. I have no plans to ever change her.
It seems like you prefer women with big tits, and this seems to be a big source of your dislike of the game. Specifically that you're forced to interact with characters you don't prefer. Making more things optional is still something I would like to add.
My immediate thought on reading what you responded to was "Heresy!" as Lin is adorable as is. While I can appreciate a nice handful I dislike the prevalence of humungous gazongas in most creations of this ilk. Not that I'm a member of the itty bitty titty comittee but there's nowt wrong with variety :)
 

taru

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Runey i need help my man. When is lins event with cornwall and the other masters specifically and also if you buy jin and/or the sanctuary will it mess up her events? Even with the mod it only tells me lvl 30 event location boat day 2 after jin came over to help train lin once. I am confused.
 
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TheDevian

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Runey i need help my man. When is lins event with cornwall and the other masters specifically and also if you buy jin and/or the sanctuary will it mess up her events? Even with the mod it only tells me lvl 30 event location boat day 2 after jin came over to help train lin once. I am confused.
Um ...what?
I think this needs to start getting uploaded to a torrent, i'd say 10gb is about the limit for http. :giggle::coffee:
There has been a torrent version for the last several updates. Or, you could get a downloader, and save a lot of trouble.
 

freedom.call

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Runey i need help my man. When is lins event with cornwall and the other masters specifically and also if you buy jin and/or the sanctuary will it mess up her events? Even with the mod it only tells me lvl 30 event location boat day 2 after jin came over to help train lin once. I am confused.
Since you've received the letter you have to tell Ellen you're ready, that's the trigger iirc. You don't have to buy Jin early on iirc but you have to buy the 2nd floor, bar, slaves and sanctuary or you'll get stuck at some point.
 
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Runey

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Runey i need help my man. When is lins event with cornwall and the other masters specifically and also if you buy jin and/or the sanctuary will it mess up her events? Even with the mod it only tells me lvl 30 event location boat day 2 after jin came over to help train lin once. I am confused.
We have a wiki which should be able to help.
 

Mathesar

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Oddly enough I find Ashley one of the more understandable characters. Admittedly, I have a certificate proving my sanity (it's written in crayon but it counts!) and have been around others with similar "quirky behaviour" so that arc makes most sense to me. Overcompensating when feeling threatened, latching on to those that offer any form of support? All sounds very familiar. A person can only take so much abuse before their first response to even a sideways look ends up as "go for the throat". Or any other vulnerable bits you can actually reach...
At first I didn't like her, because crazy, but as her story progressed I realized that I had almost become her. Some of those flashbacks hit really close to home. My parents didn't really get it and their advice wasn't useful, but they tried. If they didn't, I probably would have wound up just like Ashley.
 

Lord Ashram

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Not sure why my save from 14.1 would cause anything for 15.1. I had no errors on 14.1 with the mod installed for 14.1, which I even completed all the story and had to stop playing until a new update came around. I don't know how to read those trackback error message. What can you tell me that mat be causing the errors for each one?
Though I've barely played any of the 0.15/0.15.1 release due to some many of the games I mod got released close to each other, of what little I have played of 0.15.1 was the slightly rare issue/error:
Exception: Could not find return label
of which I figure out the best thing to do since my save was in the Lobby was to immediately go to the Bar instead of letting the game continue letting me know girl x's story is complete.

So maybe jump back to the 0.14.1 release (with my mod from that version of the game) and do a save in the Lobby,
jump over to the 0.15.1 release (with the latest version of my mod that I updated last week to),
immediately jump to the Bar then continue the game and see if that helps.

If that doesn't work then send me your save and I'll take a look.
 
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Lord Ashram

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Ashley needs more spankings by the MC, problem solved lol.

I like Ashley, I found her personality at the beginning funny and could immediately tell she was compensating for a shitty past.
Maybe because I had grew up in a just as shitty but different situation that she didn't bother me, though I still would have bent her over my knee and made those ass cheeks nice and red when she got to my limit. Of course then I would have plowed those rosey red cheeks with my dick, hehe.
 

freedom.call

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I got an immediate traceback error venturing into the unchartered 0.15.1 territory but it seems a rollback sorted it out, for now anyway. :)
 
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camus32

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As per your review, I'm sorry you think Lin is plain and ugly. I have no plans to ever change her.

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Thank goodness! Lin is adorable! I find it curious that anyone would disagree with that, but I guess to each their own.

I'm the ultimate lurker - I read threads all the time and never post. But I just have to say this game so exceeded my expectations. I downloaded it thinking it would likely be an entertaining diversion but it really is a work of art. The scene in the clocktower was breathtaking. It was beautiful and did such great work on Ashley's character development. Speaking of character development - the twins completely surprised me. I started off thinking I would spend as little time with them as I could, but now I completely adore them. The scene where Felicity asks to be taken to the dungeon is one of my favorites. Perhaps most of all - when you persuade Maria that her parents loved her.... I wasn't crying. It was allergies, I swear.

Amazing work, Runey, and I admire your storytelling and your talent for character development
 

taru

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We have a wiki which should be able to help.
thanks that helped a bunch, i dunno what happened the first time around but i went and changed back lins friendship to 21 and re did it now i got the prompt for cornwalls challenge
 
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Uthuriel

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still haven't gone through the new update yet, mainly because of all the different screenies and things I need to do, and redo, from event revamps. Just don't know if I have the patience to do it :(
It's worth it though and the update was on the short side so you don't have to invest a lot of time.
 
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