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sserobinsse

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Just think, so many centuries have passed, humanity has gone out into big space and begun to colonize other worlds, and the old AK-47 is still relevant. marvelous! =)
the sad true is that it is pretty high chance that if the ak-47 will exist still in the future and that it will be as deadly as it is today just because of the reason that in the future we will probability still have a "weakness" ak-47 due to in the future we probability will have gone with mobility rather than "armor" so the ak-47 will still see some uses would not surprise me if some farmer or local militia would still have it in use if it is not still in use by paramilitaries or military
 

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the build up for Stoneface seems kinda pointless, at least to me it seems obvious who it is from the get-go. I think I could of been handled better at least throw in some red herrings for it.
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Just think, so many centuries have passed, humanity has gone out into big space and begun to colonize other worlds, and the old AK-47 is still relevant. marvelous! =)
The only advantage to the AK-47 is that they were so heavily mass produced that they are cheap to buy, and they don't jam easily.
That is because of the loose tolerances of their construction, which makes them less susceptible to jamming.
But, because of the loose tolerances, they are not known for accuracy, so they are very much, spray and pray weapons at any kind of range.
Rated for accurate fire out to 350 m.
Less than half of the effective range of a sharps rifle, that was heavily used in the American civil war. Roughly 140 years ago.
Single shot, breach loader firing paper cartridge ammo, with a range of 914 m.

An M-14, which has been around almost as long as the ak, and is also not heavily prone to jamming, but which has a slower rate of fire, and a smaller capacity magazine would be more accurate.
And have better penetration against body armor, because of the larger rounds that it fires.
Such a weapon in the hands of an android, would be a lethal combination, with an androids ability to instantly master any accurate projectile weapon.
And since they may be going up against armored warbots and people wearing body armor, the more powerful rounds fired by the M-14 could make a huge difference.
Rated for accurate fire out to 800 m.
 
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Dzeris

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Rated for accurate fire out to 350 m.
Less than half of the effective range of a sharps rifle, that was heavily used in the American civil war. Roughly 140 years ago.
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And since they may be going up against armored warbots and people wearing body armor, the more powerful rounds fired by the M-14 could make a huge difference.
Rated for accurate fire out to 800 m.
Except for small nuances like
* armies are not armed with M-14. M-14 is DMR and its commie equivalent is not AK-47.
* engagement range was below 350 meters before STG-43 showed up. Intermediate rounds were introduced due to reduced engagement range and weight benefits.
* rifleman with sharps was caring less ammo than average American dog today
 

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Except for small nuances like
* armies are not armed with M-14. M-14 is DMR and its commie equivalent is not AK-47.
* engagement range was below 350 meters before STG-43 showed up. Intermediate rounds were introduced due to reduced engagement range and weight benefits.
* rifleman with sharps was caring less ammo than average American dog today

I never said it was the equivalent, but it would be a better choice.
It fires larger, more powerful rounds which will be more effective against body armor.
The government there uses body armor, and warbots.
You tube used to have videos showing U.S. troops getting hit in the chest by AK-47 rounds at close range, while wearing body armor, and then getting back up to take cover elsewhere.
More powerful weapons would be better.
If you just wanted a weapon that was good at short range to clear out a hallway full of people without body armor, then the Thomson submachine gun or the M-3 would be perfect, and the ammo is cheaper.
 
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The U.S. military has used the M-14, which was made in the U.S., in the middle east.


"Although the M14 was phased out as the standard-issue rifle by 1970, M14 variants are still used by various branches of the U.S. military, as well as other armed forces, especially as a sniper rifle and as a (DMR), due to its accuracy and effectiveness at long range. In 1989, the Marine Corps began a program to upgrade their M14s into DMRs. The final product created by the Precision Weapons Section in was called the Marine Corps DMR and was intended for use by security teams ( , companies), and Marine in the cases where a would be more appropriate than the standard bolt-action rifle. The USMC Rifle Team currently uses the M14 in shooting competitions.

Some original-production M14s, not to be confused with , were in use by the Army until the and , when they began to be employed as DMRs and sniper rifles. A 2009 study conducted by the Army claimed that half of the engagements in Afghanistan occurred from beyond 300 meters (330 yd). American 5.56×45mm NATO service rifles were ineffective at these ranges, which prompted the reissue of thousands of M14s. Common modifications included scopes, fiberglass stocks, and other accessories."

I never said it was the equivalent, but it would be a better choice.
It fires larger, more powerful rounds which will be more effective against body armor.
The government there uses body armor, and warbots.
More powerful weapons would be better.
If you just wanted a weapon that was good at short range to clear out a hallway, then the Thomson submachine gun would be perfect, and the ammo is cheaper.
Is this F95 or did I somehow log into a Forgotten Weapons thread? Is your name Ian?
 
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T4t0rt

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As i said before, i hope the next update will bring a lot of upgrades for the hotel.

But now i'm thinking...

Time even for the girls to get upgrades. At least for self defence.

And maybe some upgrades for the girl's rooms as well, where each girl, with MC's help, can develop their own perks/upgrades with different combinations, in order to answer properly during some plot events.

Example: Ashley msq > some events require *new knife/modified taser/brass knucles* each option, different plot development.
 

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The only advantage to the AK-47 is that they were so heavily mass produced that they are cheap to buy, and they don't jam easily.
That is because of the loose tolerances of their construction, which makes them less susceptible to jamming.

But, because of the loose tolerances, ,they are not known for accuracy, so they are very much, spray and pray weapons.

An M-14, which has been around almost as long,, and is also not heavily prone to jamming, but which has a slower rate of fire, and a smaller capacity magazine would be more accurate, and have better penetration against body armor, because of the larger rounds that it fires.
ok as you say =)
 

torresm

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I mean, if you guys wanna get really technical, the gun in the game looks more like an AK-74M with some wonky detailing.
Compared to the original AK-47, it uses an intermediate cartridge and has seen several improvements over the decades, including to accuracy.
 
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Reinyn

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It's true, there are games out there that have the possibility of bad endings, if the wrong choices are made.
All a person can do is make the best choices that they can make, while taking in to consideration the long term consequences for those decisions.

For example: Harem hotel has both a love, and slave route.
The slave route could potentially have terrible consequences when it comes to the elves staying with you at the end of the game.
To me, it is a bad route to take.
A fun route now, but potentially a terrible mistake later.
But then, that is my thoughts on it, it may be wrong.
I think that people need to consider how the elves and androids too, will look at any human who treated their kind as slaves at the end of the game.

With the love route, you are helping them, guiding them, and protecting them, and that could leave you in a very good position, as a hero to both the elves and androids, if you make the right decisions in the coming revolution.
Which is why making regular save points is important.
You can go back, and undo a mistake in the past, and get a better ending.
But then, the love route has its own risks.

Games like this are actually a good thing, because they remind us that every decision that we make, could possibly have negative consequences later in life.
Live and learn.
And this game has the advantage, that if we reach the end, we can replay it and make different, and hopefully better choices the next time.

Look at it as a lesson in life, without the real consequences...
I am gonna tie up some elves and have fun with them now.
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TheDevian

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the build up for Stoneface seems kinda pointless, at least to me it seems obvious who it is from the get-go. I think I could of been handled better at least throw in some red herrings for it.
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Yeah, it is pretty obvious to anyone who can read between the lines, but we are aware of meta info the characters are not. We also have minor details that the MC didn't see, and we also have the advantage of knowing that there are few insignificant details in these things so we know more about what to ignore and not. Bits from various arcs, etc.

It should not be long before it becomes obvious to even the most obtuse MC. :KEK:
 
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♂Brout&Minou♀

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Hi everyone
I was just wondering about dating girls. In almost every date, a sandbox appears with multiple choices that don't really seem important, but leading to different dialogues. Is there really no difference between the different choices given, leading to a different relationship between this girl and the protagonist later in the game?
 

Kugatsu500

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Hi everyone
I was just wondering about dating girls. In almost every date, a sandbox appears with multiple choices that don't really seem important, but leading to different dialogues. Is there really no difference between the different choices given, leading to a different relationship between this girl and the protagonist later in the game?
As far as I saw, it doesn't seem to make a difference. In certain story events, I got dialogue about the girls that we already had in dates, and it made no difference, it was like MC was getting that information for the first time, even though he already gotten it in the date.

This is one thing I noticed. Because the game has a sandbox mode, but also has a story mode, a lot of dialogue can seem disconected sometimes. When I went to church with Autumn, I had already done the church events in the exploration mode, but it made no difference, it was like I was visiting it for the first time. This can also happen with a few of story events. When you advance a bit on a girl's story and then go to another girl story event, some dialogue can feel disconected from information that you already got on another event.

Honestly it doesn't bother me that much. It is a very big game with both sandbox exploration and a storyline for EACH of the girls, including the side girls, so things like that are bound to happen. I read somewhere that Runey is reworking some older events, but I'm not sure if it is in order to connect them better, or if he just had a different idea on how they should happen. Be it as it may, it doesn't make much difference to me. The little inconsistencies are a bit weird when they show up, but it doesn't take away from my enjoyment of the game.
 

♂Brout&Minou♀

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As far as I saw, it doesn't seem to make a difference. In certain story events, I got dialogue about the girls that we already had in dates, and it made no difference, it was like MC was getting that information for the first time, even though he already gotten it in the date.

This is one thing I noticed. Because the game has a sandbox mode, but also has a story mode, a lot of dialogue can seem disconected sometimes. When I went to church with Autumn, I had already done the church events in the exploration mode, but it made no difference, it was like I was visiting it for the first time. This can also happen with a few of story events. When you advance a bit on a girl's story and then go to another girl story event, some dialogue can feel disconected from information that you already got on another event.

Honestly it doesn't bother me that much. It is a very big game with both sandbox exploration and a storyline for EACH of the girls, including the side girls, so things like that are bound to happen. I read somewhere that Runey is reworking some older events, but I'm not sure if it is in order to connect them better, or if he just had a different idea on how they should happen. Be it as it may, it doesn't make much difference to me. The little inconsistencies are a bit weird when they show up, but it doesn't take away from my enjoyment of the game.
Yeah, we noticed that too. It's quite weird when it happens, and it also depends on the order in which you trigger the events, but it must be difficult when you've been building a game for so long to keep a correlation between all the events and dialogues. To do this, you would have to write the scripts for all the women's events before starting everything else, and that is rarely the case.
Anyway, thanks for the answer. We was wondering if this could lead to different paths. Some sort of multi branching
 

Kugatsu500

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Yeah, we noticed that too. It's quite weird when it happens, and it also depends on the order in which you trigger the events, but it must be difficult when you've been building a game for so long to keep a correlation between all the events and dialogues. To do this, you would have to write the scripts for all the women's events before starting everything else, and that is rarely the case.
Anyway, thanks for the answer. We was wondering if this could lead to different paths. Some sort of multi branching
Yes, like I said, it doesn't bother me because the game is big and I know how much of a hassle would be to tie everything up perfectly, so I'm fine with it.
As far as I know, there are no branching paths in secondary content right now. Iirc even in main story, so far there is no branching paths. There is the choice between love and slave with Sylvia and Nia, but I don't know if this will lead to any consequences later on, so far there is none.
 
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Yes, like I said, it doesn't bother me because the game is big and I know how much of a hassle would be to tie everything up perfectly, so I'm fine with it.
As far as I know, there are no branching paths in secondary content right now. Iirc even in main story, so far there is no branching paths. There is the choice between love and slave with Sylvia and Nia, but I don't know if this will lead to any consequences later on, so far there is none.
The Sylvia and Nia paths will likely be massively important later.
When playing games like this, taking the long view, and considering future consequences is very important.
 
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