VinnneV
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I understand, I hope he can get through this difficult phase in his life.
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Opa Wants
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With Everyone Standing behind him and offering what ever support we can + patience while he goes through this difficult time should be enough( I Hope + Pray) 
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VinnneV
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Well... Apparently...
Buletti
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Wishing the dev all the best! Looking very much forward to the next iterations of this great game!
Because it is your requirement?
We all are waiting for the update. But perhaps you should consider how many good games never get finished.
Perhaps the best thing we can all do is to be grateful and, when we have the money, to express that gratitude
I really don’t get this attitude. Shouldn’t developers show their gratitude for getting over $10k dollars per month instead? He has got 4800 paying patreons after all.
DigDug69
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First of all, the dev is dealing with a lot of personal crap right now, that can not be put off until later.
The dev is not getting that kind of money.
Patreon keeps a huge portion of the money that comes in.
People can pause payments and still be listed on Patreon, so it is not necessaily true, that all of those people are paying anything.
Harem Hotel is a 100% free game.
The Dev is literally offering it to everyone for free.
Any donations on Patreon are completely voluntary, and the people donating can stop whenever they choose to, and still get the game for free, like everyone else.
Anyone who is still donating, has chosen to do so of their own accord.
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Opa Wants
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I would like to see half of you whiners deal with the legal system AND deal with the passing of a loved one at the same time.
You would probably end up in the corner crying your eyes out and BEG FOR COMPASSION AND EMPATHY.
Meanwhile Runey IS running back and forth between the game and his real life problems doing the best he can.
Like Digdug69 said HH IS 100% FREE.
If you want you can go the complaint dept. ( Don't forget to PULL a number)
You would probably end up in the corner crying your eyes out and BEG FOR COMPASSION AND EMPATHY.
Meanwhile Runey IS running back and forth between the game and his real life problems doing the best he can.
Like Digdug69 said HH IS 100% FREE.
If you want you can go the complaint dept. ( Don't forget to PULL a number)
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No, he SAYS he deals with a lot of stuff, an unverifiable claim, of the type that is oh so common among patreon WEG makers.
" Patreon currently takes between 8% and 12% of creator earnings " t. patreon
So can the creator if he is not working on the content of the patreon, but why cut himself from free income, the pay piggies will keep on anyway.
And the rest is the usual drivel of "it's a tip jar, lol". This attitude is exactly why the western ero-game "industry" will forever remain as mostly a bunch of low effort DAZ horrors or unfinished scams, because why make something when you can milk forever with of excuses, and have your knob polished by people with no standards.
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Sure.....
Sorry for you, if you're don't know how to disable your pledge, if your unhappy with the artist, dev or however else that get your money.
For the rest the world is an unjust place and I myself would like to have a little bit of the fortune of some of the very richest around the globe have, but life is an unjust place.
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DigDug69
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Are you a paying supporter?
If not, why are you whining about what others do?
If you are, then if you are so upset, just like all of the others, you have the option to unsubscribe on Patreon?
Or are you some kind of woke social justice warrior, fighting causes that don't really even affect you?
I feel like some people are missing the whole point here. OK so maybe the dev is dealing with a personal situation as they claim. So... does their whole life go on hold for a year? That's just not realistic, or healthy. Normal people deal with these things and still have to keep being productive members of society. Do teachers, police officers, doctors, or any other ordinary jobs typically take a year off, and keep drawing a full salary when a relative dies? Nope. But I guess a porn dev deservers more consideration right...?
I would be all for being considerate and understanding if there is like a minor delay, or if the dev just posted a note saying hey I had a loss in my family, and their supporters want to post some "sorry for your loss" type notes, that is all fine and good. But there is a huge difference between that, and what the white knight types on this site love to do, which is enabling and encouraging devs to produce little to nothing, and keep collecting a check for an extended period of time. Valiantly defending these devs that just go off the reservation for months to years, while continuing to pluck at their supporters' heart strings by posting message after message about how their grandma is sick or they have cancer or their puppy got run over by a bus, is wrong. And you are not helping them in the long run, because at some point their current cash cow is going to dry up, and they are going to struggle like all hell to adapt back to having to actually work hard and meet deadlines, after subsisting on lots of pay for little work for so long.
I would be all for being considerate and understanding if there is like a minor delay, or if the dev just posted a note saying hey I had a loss in my family, and their supporters want to post some "sorry for your loss" type notes, that is all fine and good. But there is a huge difference between that, and what the white knight types on this site love to do, which is enabling and encouraging devs to produce little to nothing, and keep collecting a check for an extended period of time. Valiantly defending these devs that just go off the reservation for months to years, while continuing to pluck at their supporters' heart strings by posting message after message about how their grandma is sick or they have cancer or their puppy got run over by a bus, is wrong. And you are not helping them in the long run, because at some point their current cash cow is going to dry up, and they are going to struggle like all hell to adapt back to having to actually work hard and meet deadlines, after subsisting on lots of pay for little work for so long.
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I would not call the people white knight types for something like this.
Moving takes time, especially when it comes to moving to another country.
Grieving takes time, and that time can vary, depending on how close the people were to each other.
Dealing with lawyers takes time, especially when it is dealing with estate issues.
Immagration takes time, because you have to stay current, and deal with paperwork, that never seems to end in some countrys.
All of that can easily destroy a devs muse, and make it impossible to release good work.
Lets face it, no one can do a good job, if they are not in the mood to do it at that time.
And then you have the issue on top of all of that where a dev has to be able to get into the right frame of mind to create something good.
Sure, if they really pushed themselves, even if they were not able to get into the right frame of mind, they might be able to release something, but it would likely be small, and complete shit, compared to their previous work.
Which in itself, would cause people to whine and complain about it.
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I mean... if the guy is dealing with some headache-inducing shenanigans, especially of the legal variety that involves lawyers, then he's definitely not going to be in the right frame of mind that one needs to be in to do creative work, especially with a family loss on top of it. People who say this much aren't being white knights or enablers, they're stating the flippin' obvious. Heck, for the sake of argument, even if they were being white knights, I like to believe he has earned at least that much tolerance after several years of consistency.
I don't believe he's milking either. The reasons for this delay are clearly stated in his patreon (excluding specific details that he's not obligated to put out there for the world to see, given the personal nature of said details), so people who choose to continue their pledge are not being milked, they're still voluntarily supporting the project in question, despite the setbacks.
Once again, for the sake of argument, let's imagine the guy just up and poofed one day without giving any reason as to why. At that point, pledgers could simply cancel their pledge and move on. That's it, it's that simple. The fact that this is even being argued, assuming it isn't trolling (which is likely the case), baffles me.
I don't believe he's milking either. The reasons for this delay are clearly stated in his patreon (excluding specific details that he's not obligated to put out there for the world to see, given the personal nature of said details), so people who choose to continue their pledge are not being milked, they're still voluntarily supporting the project in question, despite the setbacks.
Once again, for the sake of argument, let's imagine the guy just up and poofed one day without giving any reason as to why. At that point, pledgers could simply cancel their pledge and move on. That's it, it's that simple. The fact that this is even being argued, assuming it isn't trolling (which is likely the case), baffles me.
Do you know what a person with integrity would do if he knows he can't work on his patreon content for an unforeseeable amount of time would do? He would pause charges. Aroma did that, exga has been paused for 3 months now dealing with other work. But why do that when you can post some sob story and keep on doing whatever while reaping the dough. And let's not pretend his work hasn't been slipping for a while now.