Ren'Py Harvesting Corruption [v0.05] [JuicyGenieGames]

[wwarwick]

we need jurnal here or walkthrough

 

[LillyKat]

For anyone who is still confused at how game dev works and came here to complain about this or that, let me save us both some time...

This is the second release. I am JUST over one month of working on this game, past the initial couple months of writing the story. The game is going to have bugs and it's not going to have all the content yet. This is literally how game development works and we are on 0.03 of the games release.

Also, I am not a team, I am ONE dev. Making my first game.

Sure, I could have made the whole game, over a year or two, making ZERO dollars in the process, hoping I made 2 years worth of money back when I was done while I funded it on my own... And released a working, finished game... That I then give away for free?
Or I could release the demo of my game, and allow a community of people who see the potential to be created. Get feedback during the process so I don't hardcode something that sucks. And make a tiny, smidgen of money in the process, to help feed myself and my kids while I devote ALL my free time to this...

All of you coming here and playing a v0.03 of a game and complaining about a lack of content, bugs, or my artistic direction, blow my mind. I'm giving you my work... For free. Asking nothing in return. And for the most part I understand 99% of you have no idea how game dev works, so I ignore the comments... But man... For the sake of my sanity, and all the other developers you do this shit to, you guys need to learn.
Until VERSION 1.0 of a game releases, you "report" bugs. Not complain about them. You "ask" about the content, not complain it's missing it. And if you don't like something I've chosen to do in my game, you get over it or go make your own game. Also lastly, if you don't like me telling you this, tough titty. This is the way it is. Myself and every other dev of every other game on here read these comments and think the exact same thing.

I mean sure, you can keep complaining. I'm not your mother. But no one is going to take you seriously. And you're just making the devs dislike you. Stop acting self-entitled... We don't owe you anything.

For the rest of you. Thank you for playing the game. Thank you for sticking around through the process. And I hope you all love the product as it grows.

LOL Bro this is the most butthurt and thin skinned crowd you will ever see. You are right about that.

 

[Allenebs]

Then go make your own game. Go read the first post on page one and quit complaining. The amount of leeches telling developers how to make their games is wild. Let me guess, you "WOULD HAVE" supported it, but now you won't? lol.

And now I'm not even going to give your game the time of day.

Where are your ads? Where can I see others play your game? Where can I find honest reviews from like-minded peers? Oh, ya, no where. I support more than 40 games. All but one of them I found on THIS website. Why? Because platforms like Steam push shovelware in the Adult Only space bc you have mid sized studios cranking out a demo per week and selling it as a full game. Devs like you, even guys like DPC, Digi, and Ocean, couldn't begin to compete in that space bc you are instantly spammed out. So, you have to gain traction on other platforms, get word of mouth going and maybe, just maybe, you have a shot. That's how this fucking works.

Piece of advice, take the feedback. You don't have to agree with it. You don't have to like it or even listen to it, but it might prevent you from making decisions that chase away potential supporters - much like your response here. No one in their right mind throws money at a product when they don't even understand wtf it is. THAT is the weakness of platforms like Patreon and OF. That's why you see OF models uploading some of their stuff to sites like the Hub. That's also why a significantly higher percentage of people FAIL on those platforms than do on their mainstream counterparts. Frankly, Patreon having a free tier that you can't unsubscribe from is a huge turnoff in itself, so not even that is a viable option to get your game out there.

If YOU don't listen to the feedback, other potential users/customers, such as myself, DO. I don't mind sandbox games, and I'm in the minority, but what I do hate is games that expect you to play whack-a-mole to progress. And guess what people are reporting? So, ya, that was already a knock on your game before I even saw your comment. Seeing another dev crash out bc they can't take valid criticism, that's just a line I won't cross. I won't do it for a project which has hundreds of millions of dollars invested into it, so there is less than zero chance I'd cross it for you.

If this is how you're going to react to criticism of your work that's not even a rough draft yet, how can I trust you to see your project through? You're too emotional and irrational, meaning you're going to burnout sooner or later, whether you succeed or fail. Someone is going to say something mean one day and that's it. Don't bother responding to me bc I won't read it. Idc and that's bc of YOU, not your game, not the valid feedback you've received - it's how you've responded. You need/want our money or else you wouldn't be writing what you did. It's why you released your game and people keep telling you there isn't nearly enough content here to justify it.

I wish you success, but you're burning bridges and have burnt at least one with your bullshit.

 

[lostingaming]

I think the graphics are great, the story is confusing and there's nothing to do so i cant speak about the game-play much, the UI could be refined. and the dev needs to realize this is an opinions form to rate the game. It's not here to help you per say, I also think the dev needs to realize that game design is about understanding their audience even when said audience doesn't know anything or make anything clear. The change log looks well structured and with apparently good and refined feedback i think this will turn into an artistic masterpiece maybe even a good game. i haven't played the latest version.

 

[LillyKat]

These characters and renders are gorgeous.

 

[colombianhoes]

This is why i told you that this game has a potential for a good success, if you manage to survive that long, from all the comments and people supporting you or not.

Cuz right now it looks like a mess and its very short but i see where its going and what you doing, its a slow process but is it worth, idk.

 

[Nuverotic]

These characters and renders are gorgeous.

Thank you! The renders actually get better as you progress. I had three different workflows that kept improving as I went along. When you get to the dinner scene, that's my current workflow.

 

[Nuverotic]

This is why i told you that this game has a potential for a good success, if you manage to survive that long, from all the comments and people supporting you or not.

Cuz right now it looks like a mess and its very short but i see where its going and what you doing, its a slow process but is it worth, idk.

Did you play the latest release dude? It's been recoded from the ground up. It's not a mess. And again, it's short because it's the third release.

 

[Nuverotic]

I think the graphics are great, the story is confusing and there's nothing to do so i cant speak about the game-play much, the UI could be refined. and the dev needs to realize this is an opinions form to rate the game. It's not here to help you per say, I also think the dev needs to realize that game design is about understanding their audience even when said audience doesn't know anything or make anything clear. The change log looks well structured and with apparently good and refined feedback i think this will turn into an artistic masterpiece maybe even a good game. i haven't played the latest version.

The UI was refined. You should play the update before saying things are one way or another.
What did you find confusing about the story?
The forum for me, is a place for people to say what they like or didn't like about the game. If they found bugs. Or if they appreciate what I'm doing.

I'm making a game for myself. I have allowed other people to play my game for free. I'm not trying to get famous. I'm just trying to make my game. I owe no one a thing. So I don't feel the need to take abuse from free users or bow to their demands.

I appreciate you looking at the changelog. And feedback DOES help the game. Because I DO listen to it. But I do not listen to nor do I have to listen to people who are just here to absorb free content and complain about it. It's their right to do so, and it's my right to call them on it.

 

[gymnopedies]

Then don't play it. It's v0.05. Look at the change log and tell me there's no content. You wanna make a shitty game that works like a book and just has story with images and not put any work into the code, go for it. But that's not what I'm doing. Code takes time. Don't like it. Make your own.

Then don't play it. It's v0.05. Look at the change log and tell me there's no content. You wanna make a shitty game that works like a book and just has story with images and not put any work into the code, go for it. But that's not what I'm doing. Code takes time. Don't like it. Make your own.

There's no extra content, I just said something obvious. I don't understand why you have to be so rude.
On the other hand, I do what I want. You don't have to dictate what I should do. If I want it, I'll play it, and if not, I won't. If I want it, I'll make a game, or if I want it, I won't.
I'm not looking for games that give me the ability to click precisely here; I'm looking for stories to be told here. Just in case you're curious, what I want from games is, and I must say that most people who come here are looking for the same thing.
I can tell you that your game has some good points: a promising start to the story. There's no story yet, it's just a prologue with zero development. It could be a great start. The characters (the art, the renders) are good, especially the main one.
But on the other hand, there's not much more to it than that, and I was hoping for something more for the second update. That's why, let's say, this was my complaint in my first post.
You are probably a good person as you advertise yourself, but you need to mature, or you need to control your anger.

 

[gymnopedies]

Finally a dev that doesn't take shit. I wish more were like that.

You missed licking the ball on the left, I think.

 

[colombianhoes]

Did you play the latest release dude? It's been recoded from the ground up. It's not a mess. And again, it's short because it's the third release.

I played update before this one, i'll see whats up.
I'd hope you added only meaningful stuff or interactable ones, not some random stuff scattered everywhere that you cant interact or dont know what to do with. Like a lot of "in progress" stuff lol
I mean as long as its beautifully organised, shouldnt be an issue of wondering what to do and where to go

 

[Saint Blackmoor]

You missed licking the ball on the left, I think.

You just put yourself in that group I was talking about for all to see. I was hoping someone would out themselves. Thanks for being stupid enough to do that. You must feel very Supreme right now.

 

[Nuverotic]

There's no extra content, I just said something obvious. I don't understand why you have to be so rude.
On the other hand, I do what I want. You don't have to dictate what I should do. If I want it, I'll play it, and if not, I won't. If I want it, I'll make a game, or if I want it, I won't.
I'm not looking for games that give me the ability to click precisely here; I'm looking for stories to be told here. Just in case you're curious, what I want from games is, and I must say that most people who come here are looking for the same thing.
I can tell you that your game has some good points: a promising start to the story. There's no story yet, it's just a prologue with zero development. It could be a great start. The characters (the art, the renders) are good, especially the main one.
But on the other hand, there's not much more to it than that, and I was hoping for something more for the second update. That's why, let's say, this was my complaint in my first post.
You are probably a good person as you advertise yourself, but you need to mature, or you need to control your anger.

You didn't say something obvious, you said something incorrect. Read the changelog and tell me there's no extra content. Just because there's only a few new story scenes, doesn't mean there's not a shit load of content that has been added in the code and way everything works.

If you're not looking for games that give you the ability to click things, then my game isn't for you. Simple as that.

Of course the story isn't complete. ITS THE THIRD UPDATE. But "Zero Development" is absolutely false. I have the whole story fleshed out and twined. Just because you guys can't see the story, doesn't mean there's no development.

I don't need to mature or control my anger. What I need to do is stop listening to people whine and complain in the comments and tell me what I should be doing. That would stop 90% of my "anger" issues. You see, all the people in my discord and Patreon have had zero issues.

If you're hoping for more in a second update, I'd suggest going to look at ANY other games "Second Update" and tell me how much content they added. Then come back to me.

What you're doing here is telling me I didn't do enough. And that is demonstratively false. I'm probably putting in more time and work than 99% of other devs out there. No offense to other devs, I'm not saying they're not doing enough either. Just that I ADDICTIVELY work on this game during my every waking second.

All that said, having to say this every 30 or so comments, is what causes me to get pissed off. Read the first comment on the first page.

 

[Nuverotic]

I played update before this one, i'll see whats up.
I'd hope you added only meaningful stuff or interactable ones, not some random stuff scattered everywhere that you cant interact or dont know what to do with. Like a lot of "in progress" stuff lol
I mean as long as its beautifully organised, shouldnt be an issue of wondering what to do and where to go

The code has to be fleshed out before story. If you start writing 30 pages of story, and then you have to go back and fix the code, you then have to rewrite all the story labels.

So, during the first few updates of a game, the first things to get done, are massive chunks of code. Mostly stuff players won't notice, but that HAS to be in there, and working properly. Like calling variables and functions.
And to test this sort of thing out, you need to have those little things you don't like. Changing from one outfit to another is a MONSTROUS amount of code. Having to do things in order, and be wearing the right clothes, is a ton of code. All of which needs to be working properly, before you start moving on to story elements.

Code is top priority to game design. Story is top priority to users. You cannot have story without code. So yes, there is a LOT of those little things in this update. And there will be more in the next update. Once the little things are all out of the way, then it will be smooth sailing with just creating the story sections.

 

[Rake Tyler]

I'm not going to rate it yet because it would be unfair to a game that's still in its early stages, I don't even know how the story will unfold so I'm just going to talk about what caught my attention in what I've seen so far, which was the protagonist who is beautiful, one of the most beautiful I've ever seen, plus her model seems to be original which makes it even better.

 

[Nuverotic]

I'm not going to rate it yet because it would be unfair to a game that's still in its early stages, I don't even know how the story will unfold so I'm just going to talk about what caught my attention in what I've seen so far, which was the protagonist who is beautiful, one of the most beautiful I've ever seen, plus her model seems to be original which makes it even better.

Thank you thank you! I'm glad you like her. I do as well. But even more importantly, if you like the character, you're going to LOVE the story and how it plays out. Absolutely trust me. I've never seen anything like it done before. You'll have a great time. I'm hoping it's so good people don't skip any of it. I'm putting a lot of time into making sure that's the case.

Thanks again for the nice compliment.

 

[colombianhoes]

Alright bro, i respect that, the hard work.
Which coding language you use, python maybe?

 

[Nuverotic]

Alright bro, i respect that, the hard work.
Which coding language you use, python maybe?

Yea it's all Python. Which I just started learning 3 months ago. lol. But I've put in about 1,200 hours into coding since then.

 

[colombianhoes]

Yea it's all Python. Which I just started learning 3 months ago. lol. But I've put in about 1,200 hours into coding since then.

Yeah thats pretty decent ammount.
I also started learning web design which is just html, css and javascript.
I practice maybe 2 hours a day if i can and am surprised how decent progress i make xD
Kinda love it