VN Ren'Py Heart Problems [v0.8 Final] [Xenorav]

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gentlemanclub

gentlemanclub

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alkaponecr said:
once is under review basically that page is gone, i have seen artists that 2+ years that are still under review, if he wants support he must start another page in another platform and reach out on twitter so we can at least keep up with his news.
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yeah there is a high chance it's gone but I think dev can still make it work. That being said, he has to be active though lol
 
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AlfredBundy4

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zoku said:
No.

Copyright issues. The project can be bought from the dev, in all cases a permission needs to be given either for free or sold. But then will the next guy be like him or worse? use the fanbase to milk more? or will he be serious but bad storyteller turning the characters to prostitues without personalities?

Other than that, there can be only fan art but without story.

It's good to consider that there is no hope for this story anymore.

Unless there is some way that I write the rest of the story because it's my job, and I know I can do better than xenorav on that matter. But Ethically I prefer not to get involved myself in such things.
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This is the one thing that isn't as black & white as many think.

First, if the assets used are free use the user cannot claim those. If this dev made the assets themselves they can claim right to them. If they didn't they cannot.
Daz themselves offers limited licensing.

In some cases (AWAM fro example) the dev has made threats while they themselves have illegally used IP in their work. L&P used everything from Pink Floyd to GTAV in their work so good luck using anyone under the grounds of stolen IP/copyright.

The best and only real argument for copyright with a VN made with Daz and Renpy (freeware) in that of the writing itself. Yes, you would have to edit the previous words written as those are solely the developers.

Finally and most importantly, who are they going to sue? At best they could make a claim with Patreon or whatever payment/hosting company you used but...just don't take money for the work. Thay or use a company that doesn't care about any of that BS. There are options for that.

As for the sued user, good luck finding and suing a Chinese, Indian, British or whatever citizen for porn game IP theft when you aren't also in the country as the person that "stole" it.

In short, it can be done and there isn't a lot that can be done to stop it.
However, I don't advocate for that and even recently wrote that this dev should just sell it wholesale or for a monthly percentage to someone that wants to make it.

If that was refused, then I think it's fair to just continue it without them. They have no real recourse if the new dev did a bit of basic work to remain out of their reach.
 
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AlfredBundy4 said:
This is the one thing that isn't as black & white as many think.

First, if the assets used are free use the user cannot claim those. If this dev made the assets themselves they can claim right to them. If they didn't they cannot.
Daz themselves offers limited licensing.

In some cases (AWAM fro example) the dev has made threats while they themselves have illegally used IP in their work. L&P used everything from Pink Floyd to GTAV in their work so good luck using anyone under the grounds of stolen IP/copyright.

The best and only real argument for copyright with a VN made with Daz and Renpy (freeware) in that of the writing itself. Yes, you would have to edit the previous words written as those are solely the developers.

Finally and most importantly, who are they going to sue? At best they could make a claim with Patreon or whatever payment/hosting company you used but...just don't take money for the work. Thay or use a company that doesn't care about any of that BS. There are options for that.

As for the sued user, good luck finding and suing a Chinese, Indian, British or whatever citizen for porn game IP theft when you aren't also in the country as the person that "stole" it.

In short, it can be done and there isn't a lot that can be done to stop it.
However, I don't advocate for that and even recently wrote that this dev should just sell it wholesale or for a monthly percentage to someone that wants to make it.

If that was refused, then I think it's fair to just continue it without them. They have no real recourse if the new dev did a bit of basic work to remain out of their reach.
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I think you're right.

But do you think patreon or other platforms where the work was published before will have to shut it down? Cause they are the ones who are supposed to deal with copyright strikes before it gets to the court.
If they won't then it's half good news, the other half is the next dev must be committed and passionate about this work enough to keep real character to the story.

Another thing when you mentioned freeware, does crowd funding count as freeware? If the releases are free of charge for the users?
 
TheRealWimzy

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Kinda crazy it hasn't been labeled 'Abandoned' yet.
Since usually when a patreon gets closed(under review, but still..) insta-abandon happens. :unsure:
Its hard to assume that it's not abandoned, at this point.
Atleast for now..
:coffee:
 
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razfaz

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Zed have had "Heart Problems" and it seems...

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There's no hope for this project no more and another title for >> dev/null.
 
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