Ren'Py Completed Helping the Hotties [v1.0.4.10.5] [xRed Games]

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Ariostebaldo

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Hildegardt said:
Could be that there once was a point to the girlfriend, but my guess is that "player feedback" happened and...
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It was already like this before the rewrite.

Hildegardt said:
...apparently people didn't like the plot point that the PC didn't want to cheat. So they just wrote the girlfriend out of the story real quick and delivered the first sex scene (outside of the intro) in the same update.
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Come on, do you really think that a porn game that the main character don't want to fuck any girl is a good plot?
Being faithful to the girlfriend in this game would only make sense if she was present in the camp, which wasn't the case, so she obviously had to go.

And before you say, "the girlfriend could come to the camp at some point". I don't think having the MC avoid getting naughty with all girls for who knows how many updates until the girlfriend arrives would be a good idea.


I liked this game before, I didn't think the story was bad, but I also don't think the story is worse now.
I personally think the dialogue is still well written and each girl have their unique personality. The plot, the motivation, the quest, the hero's journey as a whole also remains the same, "only" the antagonist has been removed.

And I mean only with a heavy
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But just think, this was probably going to be a story about this guy working at this camp full of this hotties with some degree of mental disorder, eventually taking part in their therapy and getting close to them, having sex with all of them one by one and then, at some point, having sex with all of them at the same time. Nothing changed.

Everyone said it, the father got removed but game's still the same up to ep6, which only means the father wasn't that important to the plot to begin with. Tell me what the father can possibly bring to the story that you want to see?

What I'm wonder now is if that eclipse will turn out to be something paranormal or not, and what is gonna be Stacey's importance in the future.

Anyway, to conclude, just remember that the dev don't have to change his game by the patrons demands, but he also don't have the obligation to never change the game if that's what he wants to do.
 
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Hildegardt

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Ariostebaldo said:
Come on, do you really think that a porn game that the main character don't want to fuck any girl is a good plot?
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Usually people use "plot" ironically, when talking about porn content. Porn games with an actual story have the advantage that the plot enables a variety of fetishes that don't come across in the sex scenes themselves. When the girlfriend still existed, there was more to the scenes than The Hotties™ simply jumping on the PC.
Ariostebaldo said:
Being faithful to the girlfriend in this game would only make sense if she was present in the camp, which wasn't the case, so she obviously had to go.

And before you say, "the girlfriend could come to the camp at some point". I don't think having the MC avoid getting naughty with all girls for who knows how many updates until the girlfriend arrives would be a good idea.
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The PC was already getting naughty. Most people, the PC included, already considered what he was doing as cheating. I can think of a few scenarios to make this interesting on the spot. The fact that you can't isn't an arguement for removing the girlfriend from the story out of the blue.
Btw the dialogue about the girlfriend joining the PC at the camp is still in the game.
Ariostebaldo said:
Everyone said it, the father got removed but game's still the same up to ep6, which only means the father wasn't that important to the plot to begin with. Tell me what the father can possibly bring to the story that you want to see?
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After the rework the PC is still whining about getting mistreated, even though the antagonist who mistreated him doesn't exist anymore.
The voyeur scenes that got removed because of ntreeEEE seemed like important plot points, because they were in contrast to how reserved and professional the parents came across. The PC trying to hide the fact that he's getting sexual with his father's patients, meanwhile the father is an exhibitionist deepthroating his wife in earshot of his patients himself was at least a little more interesting than the millionth landlady glancing at her tenant's dick.
 
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First i will say i hate ntr but people keep saying the anti ntr crowd killed the father but it was the voice acting that i think did it. the voice acting killed the incest and with the incest gone the dad had less of a role and you can see how bad the lack of incest has put a hole in the game. And if the dad was such a problem all the dev had to change was letting the mc interrupt them instead of following and poof no complaining. The dev made the mc so spinless that to get eve with the dad still in place it would take forever of having to watch and be a voyeur for like half if not more of the game. So in my opinion it was more of a mc problem then the dad in the first place.
 
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Ariostebaldo

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Hildegardt said:
Usually people use "plot" ironically, when talking about porn content. Porn games with an actual story have the advantage that the plot enables a variety of fetishes that don't come across in the sex scenes themselves. When the girlfriend still existed, there was more to the scenes than The Hotties™ simply jumping on the PC.
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The porn content makes part of the plot here.

The main character don't want to cheat on his girlfriend = plot


Hildegardt said:
The PC was already getting naughty. Most people, the PC included, already considered what he was doing as cheating. I can think of a few scenarios to make this interesting on the spot. The fact that you can't isn't an arguement for removing the girlfriend from the story out of the blue.
Btw the dialogue about the girlfriend joining the PC at the camp is still in the game.
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Yeah, the PC was already getting naughty and then getting cold feet at last moment. Like you said the girlfriend can still join him in the camp, I think she will.

Ariostebaldo said:
she obviously had to go.
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To correct what I said here, what I was trying to say with "she obviously had to go" was that the break up was necessary, not that the girlfriend need to be removed from the story.


Hildegardt said:
After the rework the PC is still whining about getting mistreated, even though the antagonist who mistreated him doesn't exist anymore.
The voyeur scenes that got removed because of ntreeEEE seemed like important plot points, because they were in contrast to how reserved and professional the parents came across. The PC trying to hide the fact that he's getting sexual with his father's patients, meanwhile the father is an exhibitionist deepthroating his wife in earshot of his patients himself was at least a little more interesting than the millionth landlady glancing at her tenant's dick.
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that's why i said "only the antagonist got removed" with heavy " "
It is evident that the antagonist of the game is not something of little importance, but removing him will not ruin the game, either.


Hildegardt said:
the millionth landlady glancing at her tenant's dick.
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How many VN like this have you played? and if you hate them so much, why have you played so many of them?
I mean, I stopped playing ntr VN two years ago as soon as noticed that wasn't my cup of tea, but there's always someone in the incest or harem VNs saying, "this is the hundredth!... thousandth!... millionth!!!..."

WTF dude?!
 
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i am having this error

Code: 
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/images/e7/e7.rpy", line 8014, in script
    show screen commingsoon with dissolve
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 548, in execute_show_screen
    renpy.show_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
Exception: Screen commingsoon is not known.


-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/images/e7/e7.rpy", line 8014, in script
    show screen commingsoon with dissolve
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 2015, in execute
    self.call("execute")
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 2003, in call
    return renpy.statements.call(method, parsed, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/statements.py", line 278, in call
    return method(parsed, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 548, in execute_show_screen
    renpy.show_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 1131, in show_screen
    raise Exception("Screen %s is not known.\n" % (name[0],))
Exception: Screen commingsoon is not known.


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ropershy

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Ariostebaldo said:
It was already like this before the rewrite.


Come on, do you really think that a porn game that the main character don't want to fuck any girl is a good plot?
Being faithful to the girlfriend in this game would only make sense if she was present in the camp, which wasn't the case, so she obviously had to go.

And before you say, "the girlfriend could come to the camp at some point". I don't think having the MC avoid getting naughty with all girls for who knows how many updates until the girlfriend arrives would be a good idea.


I liked this game before, I didn't think the story was bad, but I also don't think the story is worse now.
I personally think the dialogue is still well written and each girl have their unique personality. The plot, the motivation, the quest, the hero's journey as a whole also remains the same, "only" the antagonist has been removed.

And I mean only with a heavy
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But just think, this was probably going to be a story about this guy working at this camp full of this hotties with some degree of mental disorder, eventually taking part in their therapy and getting close to them, having sex with all of them one by one and then, at some point, having sex with all of them at the same time. Nothing changed.

Everyone said it, the father got removed but game's still the same up to ep6, which only means the father wasn't that important to the plot to begin with. Tell me what the father can possibly bring to the story that you want to see?

What I'm wonder now is if that eclipse will turn out to be something paranormal or not, and what is gonna be Stacey's importance in the future.

Anyway, to conclude, just remember that the dev don't have to change his game by the patrons demands, but he also don't have the obligation to never change the game if that's what he wants to do.
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I agree that the story isn't any worse now. But with the Step-father in the game it gave the game a villain. Now the villain part is being put on the HOT MILF. Cause now she is the one that forced MC to change all his plans and work at the camp for the summer. But it is sort of hard to hate on her since she is so HOT and isn't mean to MC like the Step-father was. (besides I was hoping Mom and MC would cuckold that ass hole of a step-dad.. Oh well. ).
 
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Haha what's up with the x-ray in this game, it adds other clothing such as lingerie even though it wouldn't work under certain scenes. Is it what the MC is imagining or just some weird version of x-ray
 
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