RPGM Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3: The Peacekeepers [P2 Update 22] [N_taii]

[NTRprofessionalconsumer]

What you're describing is just the nature of the fetish being used more purposely, rather than like a sledgehammer. The whole series is a slow burn NTR story. Where the corruption is the primary focus, but done so that it's not instant changes with the LIs. The time it's taken has only now gotten all the Rivals at least to the stage of fucking.

The conflict is the mystery of the island and the history of the their world. Not some struggle between stopping the rivals. That isn't what the games have been about at all. But, him inadvertently helping the rivals in their endeavors is what I talked about in my other post. I said, if he did less and was less involved they wouldn't get very far. That's apart of the tragedy within the story he is involved in the corruption of the girls, he just doesn't know it. His notoriety plays into their hands. When he wins in life, he loses in other ways such as the girls. This isn't Scars of Summer where you can play a more active role in stopping the rivals.

The dev has always been upfront about what the series is. We're experiencing a kinetic story that has a very specific narrative line depicitng the slow and inevitable corruption of all the girls.

This is from start to finish a Netorare series. The dev just made this MC more competent. But, he's not gaining the upper hand in any real capacity. If that bugs people, look towards another series.

I appreciate what you're saying but if the developer wishes to write more a story than an NTR game, then they need to follow the tenants of good story-writing above all. The main character being so insipid and having little impact leaves him feeling limp in the story.

I really do think these issues are going to be fixed regardless. Like Miss Y says, for people who have been following week by week, the pacing is atrocious. That's only because we're progressing through a part of the story that is purposefully slow. I do believe that Leto will become a more interesting character once he has decisions, choices to grapple with- And starts seeing the consequences of the corruption going on.

I don't want Leto to thwart the conspiracy. I just want him to try, and for the girls around him to stop him- On purpose or otherwise.

A slight aside- It would be interesting, now that we know Jason and Nezar are involved with the conspiracy on some level, if the final quests of the side girls involved Leto trying to save them from the conspiracy. Again, giving Leto some agency in the paths these women are walking.

 

[haywire_hero]

I appreciate what you're saying but if the developer wishes to write more a story than an NTR game, then they need to follow the tenants of good story-writing above all. The main character being so insipid and having little impact leaves him feeling limp in the story.

I really do think these issues are going to be fixed regardless. Like Miss Y says, for people who have been following week by week, the pacing is atrocious. That's only because we're progressing through a part of the story that is purposefully slow. I do believe that Leto will become a more interesting character once he has decisions, choices to grapple with- And starts seeing the consequences of the corruption going on.

I don't want Leto to thwart the conspiracy. I just want him to try, and for the girls around him to stop him- On purpose or otherwise.

A slight aside- It would be interesting, now that we know Jason and Nezar are involved with the conspiracy on some level, if the final quests of the side girls involved Leto trying to save them from the conspiracy. Again, giving Leto some agency in the paths these women are walking.

What site do you think you're on? These are porn games. There isn't a single game on this platform that could qualify as good story-writing. Anyone that says otherwise is full of it. They're all following specific story conveniences to fit the fetishes within the cobbled together made up scenes. This is a Netorare story. Same as all the other games have specific fetish stories. If you're looking for something more than a fetish story, go to a library.

Also, no shit the Leto will eventually find out. But, it's supposed to be when it's too late. That's the development and that's what the story has been since it's inception. So, yeah he'll hate them later on. As I said before only with the last update have all the rivals gotten to the stage of fucking. And as slow burn NTR stories reach their climax is when the protagonist realises the tragedy their caught in. Every update has pushed the stories of the individual LIs. If you're really bothered by the pacing. Stop playing the game and wait for it to be completed. The developer has already completed two other games. So, the likelyhood of this one being completed is high.

 

[NTRprofessionalconsumer]

What site do you think you're on? These are porn games. There isn't a single game on this platform that could qualify as good story-writing. Anyone that says otherwise is full of it. They're all following specific story conveniences to fit the fetishes within the cobbled together made up scenes. This is a Netorare story. Same as all the other games have specific fetish stories. If you're looking for something more than a fetish story, go to a library.

Also, no shit the Leto will eventually find out. But, it's supposed to be when it's too late. That's the development and that's what the story has been since it's inception. So, yeah he'll hate them later on. As I said before only with the last update have all the rivals gotten to the stage of fucking. And as slow burn NTR stories reach their climax is when the protagonist realises the tragedy their caught in. Every update has pushed the stories of the individual LIs. If you're really bothered by the pacing. Stop playing the game and wait for it to be completed. The developer has already completed two other games. So, the likelyhood of this one being completed is high.

Why are you so angry? We're only having a discussion!

I think it's a shame to so eagerly discredit somebody's work as nothing more than a porn game. Sure, a lot of the stuff on this site is... Low effort to say the least. But every creator on this site has the chance to create art with their work. I mean, this developer has proven that he can write quite well and develop characters in a decent manner. Call me an idealist but I do believe that you can have a good story in an NTR RPGmaker game!

I'm not bothered by the pacing, just anxious and worried over some recent decisions the story has taken. That's all. And clearly I'm not alone as other people have been voicing similar concerns. I trust the developer, however. So I'll wait and see when the next update comes out.

 

[haywire_hero]

Why are you so angry? We're only having a discussion!

I think it's a shame to so eagerly discredit somebody's work as nothing more than a porn game. Sure, a lot of the stuff on this site is... Low effort to say the least. But every creator on this site has the chance to create art with their work. I mean, this developer has proven that he can write quite well and develop characters in a decent manner. Call me an idealist but I do believe that you can have a good story in an NTR RPGmaker game!

I'm not bothered by the pacing, just anxious and worried over some recent decisions the story has taken. That's all. And clearly I'm not alone as other people have been voicing similar concerns. I trust the developer, however. So I'll wait and see when the next update comes out.

I'm not angry. I just think it's silly to try and act like we're dealing with some other form of media.

Also, it's not a discrediting someones work by calling their porn game a porn game. These games are for jacking off. That's why the stories result in constant porn scenes. I really don't understand how or why you've chosen to ignore what these games are. If a developer releases a new update that has little or no sex scenes, people bitch. Because, we're on this site for fucking porn. You can dress it up however you like the reality doesn't change. Calling porn Art is a stretch. But, it still doesn't change that all the stories in every game on this site no matter the quality relies on plot conveniences, over serialized characters, and a litany of literal fucking scenes.

So, you first say you think the pacing is atrocious in one post and now you're saying your not bothered by the pacing. You really don't see how contradictory that is? If you think the pacing is atrocious then stop playing and wait for it to be finished. It's a simple fix to an issue. It'll flow better and I didn't bring it up the last time. But, it'd probably help that you stop waiting week to week(as you claim) for updates on a porn game that releases monthly.

 

[NTRprofessionalconsumer]

I'm not angry. I just think it's silly to try and act like we're dealing with some other form of media.

Also, it's not a discrediting someones work by calling their porn game a porn game. These games are for jacking off. That's why the stories result in constant porn scenes. I really don't understand how or why you've chosen to ignore what these games are. If a developer releases a new update that has little or no sex scenes, people bitch. Because, we're on this site for fucking porn. You can dress it up however you like the reality doesn't change. Calling porn Art is a stretch. But, it still doesn't change that all the stories in every game on this site no matter the quality relies on plot conveniences, over serialized characters, and a litany of literal fucking scenes.

So, you first say you think the pacing is atrocious in one post and now you're saying your not bothered by the pacing. You really don't see how contradictory that is? If you think the pacing is atrocious then stop playing and wait for it to be finished. It's a simple fix to an issue. It'll flow better and I didn't bring it up the last time. But, it'd probably help that you stop waiting week to week(as you claim) for updates on a porn game that releases monthly.

It's erotica and yes, the game is designed for masturbation, but you can still aspire to have a higher quality inside the game. A fetish like NTR relies so heavily on character development and proper pacing, after all. I'm sure we've all seen plenty of games that start off perfect but immediately rush and ruin the NTR.

I can think the pacing is poor and also not be bothered by it. They aren't mutually exclusive. At the end of the day I was just giving some insight and wasn't trying to piss you off or anything. No need to snap at me! The fact that you're so passionate about this proves my point I think in that it's not just porn. Who gets this angry over porn? :')

 

[haywire_hero]

It's erotica and yes, the game is designed for masturbation, but you can still aspire to have a higher quality inside the game. A fetish like NTR relies so heavily on character development and proper pacing, after all. I'm sure we've all seen plenty of games that start off perfect but immediately rush and ruin the NTR.

I can think the pacing is poor and also not be bothered by it. They aren't mutually exclusive. At the end of the day I was just giving some insight and wasn't trying to piss you off or anything. No need to snap at me! The fact that you're so passionate about this proves my point I think in that it's not just porn. Who gets this angry over porn? :')

Dude. If your really going to ignore what I say, what are we discussing? I literally told you I'm not angry, but you don't seem interested to acknowledge what I've just told you. If you've taken anything as anger that's on you. Don't push your narrative on me. Stop trying to be a victim.

On top of that, it doesn't matter what high quality of anything is added to the porn game it's still a porn game. That's specifically written around fetishes. Trying to pretend otherwise doesn't help your position. This isn't high art, it will always be just porn. Also, yeah it is a contradiction by calling pacing atrocious and then claiming it doesn't bother you.

 

[Matoga]

See y'all next week gentlemen. O7

 

[Miss Y]

This isn't Scars of Summer where you can play a more active role in stopping the rivals.

Having played Scars of Summer exhaustively, this point leaves me a little confused. Do you mean in the sense of giving the player a choice to just not engage with any of the trigger events around the map so that they can pursue the happy ending without encountering NTR along the way? Because that is not at all what I was trying to get across. Again, I enjoy NTR and fully understand that this is a linear game up until the very end where it branches into different flavored endings, so when I talk about having Leto be more involved in the story, I don't mean that I want him to "get the upper hand" and actually prevent any of the corruption.

A fundamental part of telling a good story (and I mean good as in "entertaining", not masterful or award-worthy) is having the ability to create the illusion that things could go a different way. Coming at it from the opposite end of the spectrum... Imagine a more typical story where the good guy wins in the end. But if you make that too transparent, it completely deflates the drama when no one ever presents a threat to him. It becomes boring because the character never seems like they are truly in danger.

That is how the villains currently feel in this story to me, and it's not because I secretly hate NTR and want them to lose.

 

[haywire_hero]

Having played Scars of Summer exhaustively, this point leaves me a little confused. Do you mean in the sense of giving the player a choice to just not engage with any of the trigger events around the map so that they can pursue the happy ending without encountering NTR along the way? Because that is not at all what I was trying to get across. Again, I enjoy NTR and fully understand that this is a linear game up until the very end where it branches into different flavored endings, so when I talk about having Leto be more involved in the story, I don't mean that I want him to "get the upper hand" and actually prevent any of the corruption.

A fundamental part of telling a good story (and I mean good as in "entertaining", not masterful or award-worthy) is having the ability to create the illusion that things could go a different way. Coming at it from the opposite end of the spectrum... Imagine a more typical story where the good guy wins in the end. But if you make that too transparent, it completely deflates the drama when no one ever presents a threat to him. It becomes boring because the character never seems like they are truly in danger.

That is how the villains currently feel in this story to me, and it's not because I secretly hate NTR and want them to lose.

My point about Scars of Summer is that it gives the illusion of stopping the rivals. The MC is able to take a more active role in preventing or slowing down the rivals progression.

The Henteria series on the other hand isn't about the illusion of stopping rivals. But to see the inevitable play out. That is by design. NTR has a multitude of specific niches. This one in particular is about the obliviousness of the protagonists losing it all. The MC isn't going to find out until it's too late as the girls will have been fully stolen away. The drama of the story is the tragedy of the MC. Watching as the protagonist continues to unknowingly help those that are working against him.
Stories aren't forced to follow specific conventions. Like telenovelas can basically have a villian win with no real reprucussions until the final couple episodes. Game of Thrones is basically villian porn. They antagonists stay on top for the vast majority of the series, with really no challange from the protagonists. So, I really don't ascribe to that perspecitive that the villians have to be constantly challanged in any capacity for a story to be good.

 

[Miss Y]

I suppose we just have wildly different expectations when it comes to stories, then. Not much point in continuing to argue ourselves in circles or me trying to nitpick about other examples, so I'll just leave it at that!

 

[Darak700]

Guys. It's better not to mention other games so often. The page may be blocked.

 

[JagOvv SmearOvv]

Guys. It's better not to mention other games so often. The page may be blocked.

What a great guy. He does it for free, and he's not even an official janny!

 

[Matoga]

I need everybody to stop whatever it is that they're doing and write down every single freeroam event that they know of that takes place in the shed right next to the Church ASAP, not just the ones with Haylen, ALL freeroam events.
Hopefully everybody is calm today and there won't be another wave of light-novel sized posts for a while so that my post can survive for the day at least.

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Btw i'm not trying to prove N_Taii wrong, i'm trying to prove MYSELF wrong.

 

[LordFrz]

I need everybody to stop whatever it is that they're doing and write down every single freeroam event that they know of that takes place in the shed right next to the Church ASAP, not just the ones with Haylen, ALL freeroam events.
Hopefully everybody is calm today and there won't be another wave of light-novel sized posts for a while so that my post can survive for the day at least.

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Btw i'm not trying to prove N_Taii wrong, i'm trying to prove MYSELF wrong.

I mean, he just used it last update for Liliys past dream sequence stuff, so it's for sure not something he forgot about.

 

[N_taii]

I need everybody to stop whatever it is that they're doing and write down every single freeroam event that they know of that takes place in the shed right next to the Church ASAP, not just the ones with Haylen, ALL freeroam events.
Hopefully everybody is calm today and there won't be another wave of light-novel sized posts for a while so that my post can survive for the day at least.

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Btw i'm not trying to prove N_Taii wrong, i'm trying to prove MYSELF wrong.

I just re-checked everything in the walkthrough and the game files, and there's indeed only one freeroam with her in the shed on Fridath morning. I might have mistaken another character/NPC's freeroam event and thought it involved Haylen. Well, next update's a good opportunity to add a new one in there^^

 

[Goriel]

I'm pretty sure theres at least 1 guard npc event in the shed

 

[Ahihihihahaha]

Ai có thể cho tui full save game được không

 

[Matoga]

Ai có thể cho tui full save game được không

https://f95zone.to/threads/henteria...keepers-update-14-n_taii.134272/post-14467652

 

[Matoga]

I'm pretty sure theres at least 1 guard npc event in the shed

Yeah it's with Sgt.Alys, that and the one with Halyen that i mentioned, these are the only 2 freeroams that i know about, i was hoping that there was at least 1 other that i missed somehow but it seems that's all of them.

 

[Twyfor]

Not qute in the shed but near it, please spare a thought for Court Mage Teresa, who's been dutifully sucking off the same reticent guard for around a year now. Try as she might, she can't get him to spill it.