RPGM Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3: The Peacekeepers [P2 Update 22] [N_taii]

[Komdot]

Because realistically, there is no believable reason for Rose to fall for the Duke otherwise.

I don't know about the others, but I'm sure Rose is the easiest NTR. She is the “queen” before she is Leto's girlfriend, just like her mother said at the beginning of the game. It's an impossible relationship, and she is already so depraved and accepting of it that I can easily see her gradually replacing Leto with this life and her kingdom.
I imagine her NTR endings being extremely cruel to Leto, but I can't see a happy ending without thinking of Leto as a cuckold or a “happy fool.” We still have a few updates before the endings begin, so I think you'll still change your theories.

I don't really care much about Cyanna in this narrative context, because why on earth would Leto feel “bad” about his sister being with a childhood friend she genuinely likes? I really don't care, and I don't think Leto will care either.
Lily is in the same situation, but Haylen is different, mainly because she's with a horrible guy, and Jazon is up to no good, he's going to mess with her a lot, I'm really looking forward to her plot, I would imagine an NTR ending with her trading Leto for her real son with Jazon, imagine Leto losing two mothers? And surely Leto's discovery scene would be him going to church and witnessing the two of them, like him going to the kitchen and seeing them naked in front of the bathroom with Jazon slapping her white ass.

 

[Jeferss12]

I don't know about the others, but I'm sure Rose is the easiest NTR. She is the “queen” before she is Leto's girlfriend, just like her mother said at the beginning of the game. It's an impossible relationship, and she is already so depraved and accepting of it that I can easily see her gradually replacing Leto with this life and her kingdom.
I imagine her NTR endings being extremely cruel to Leto, but I can't see a happy ending without thinking of Leto as a cuckold or a “happy fool.” We still have a few updates before the endings begin, so I think you'll still change your theories.

I don't really care much about Cyanna in this narrative context, because why on earth would Leto feel “bad” about his sister being with a childhood friend she genuinely likes? I really don't care, and I don't think Leto will care either.
Lily is in the same situation, but Haylen is different, mainly because she's with a horrible guy, and Jazon is up to no good, he's going to mess with her a lot, I'm really looking forward to her plot, I would imagine an NTR ending with her trading Leto for her real son with Jazon, imagine Leto losing two mothers? And surely Leto's discovery scene would be him going to church and witnessing the two of them, like him going to the kitchen and seeing them naked in front of the bathroom with Jazon slapping her white ass.

What we do know for sure is that the Duke is going to give Leto a chance to join him. Like I said, he’ll probably put him in a situation where Leto finds out the truth about what’s going on—of course, after laying the option of joining him on the table.


What I’m not sure about is whether Leto will be like Cassio and get hit with the whole truth at once—I mean, Cassio found out what was going on with all the girls consecutively—or if it’ll be more like Noa, who uncovered the truth girl by girl; first with Haylen and Lyly in their respective side quests, and then later with Cyanna and Rose during the final main quest.


I don’t really think it’ll go that way, though, because the netorare ending,where Leto still doesn’t realize what’s happening. So I’d say the revelation probably starts when he finds out what’s going on with Rose. Then, when Leto tries to find someone to lean on, he goes to Cyanna—but sees her having sex with Ulrod. Then he tries to turn to Lyly, but she’s with Nezar. The last one left would be Haylen—and we already know how that ends.


So Leto would end up at the point where he feels like he has no one left to turn to… and that’s when those two girls who appeared in his dream at the beginning of the game would show up. XD



I know a lot of people don’t like a deus ex machina XD, but we all know that, one way or another, those two girls who appeared in Leto’s dreams—possibly succubi—are definitely coming back. Can you imagine if one of them is a succubus and the other is Sister Selen, the one who was with Noa on the ship when Leto was a child? And maybe the succubus found Selen and turned her into her pet XD.
Or maybe the second girl is just the daughter of the first—like, a mother-and-daughter succubus duo. So many possibilities.


Anyway, back to the whole deus ex machina thing—it’s kind of inevitable, because there’s always some mysterious entity pulling the strings from the shadows. What we’re all hoping, though, is that Leto doesn’t end up becoming a pet for those beings like what happened with Noa.


If Leto gets his revenge, let it be his revenge—not something handed to him by some mysterious being giving him a power pulled out of their ass XD.

 

[EdenGenesis]

I don't know about the others, but I'm sure Rose is the easiest NTR. She is the “queen” before she is Leto's girlfriend, just like her mother said at the beginning of the game. It's an impossible relationship, and she is already so depraved and accepting of it that I can easily see her gradually replacing Leto with this life and her kingdom.
I imagine her NTR endings being extremely cruel to Leto, but I can't see a happy ending without thinking of Leto as a cuckold or a “happy fool.” We still have a few updates before the endings begin, so I think you'll still change your theories.

I don't really care much about Cyanna in this narrative context, because why on earth would Leto feel “bad” about his sister being with a childhood friend she genuinely likes? I really don't care, and I don't think Leto will care either.
Lily is in the same situation, but Haylen is different, mainly because she's with a horrible guy, and Jazon is up to no good, he's going to mess with her a lot, I'm really looking forward to her plot, I would imagine an NTR ending with her trading Leto for her real son with Jazon, imagine Leto losing two mothers? And surely Leto's discovery scene would be him going to church and witnessing the two of them, like him going to the kitchen and seeing them naked in front of the bathroom with Jazon slapping her white ass.

Honestly, I don’t want to sound careless or clueless, but I lost my old save and didn’t have time to replay everything because I’m really busy as a curator and game reviewer. I love HC2 and expected HC3 to be even better, so I mostly played through the intro and the long childhood segment of Leto’s story. From what I saw, all the girls—Rose, Cyanna, Lily, and even Helen—clearly have feelings for Leto that go beyond family bonds, especially since, unlike in HC2, none of them are related to him by blood.

Rose is the “official choice,” sure, but that doesn’t mean Cyanna, Lily, or even Helen couldn’t end up with Leto under the right circumstances.

I actually wouldn’t have minded letting Cyanna, Helen, and Lily go with their respective interlopers if those guys weren’t all ugly bastards or manipulative scumbags who destroy couples to satisfy their libido. Every time I see the Duke, Ulrog, or Jazon, all my warning lights go red. Honestly, I want to see the Duke on his knees begging Leto to spare him and regretting everything he’s done.

When I got further into the game—past the point where Cyanna loses her virginity—there’s a conversation where the Duke talks to Leto about how a hero like him can’t stay in one place and should leave to help others. I don’t remember the exact words, but it’s clear the Duke knows that if he wants more than Rose’s body, he needs to get Leto out of the picture. Sending Leto on a suicide mission, framing him as a criminal, or locking him away while claiming he left would all be ways for the Duke to claim Rose for himself. Because really, why would Rose marry an old, ugly Duke over a hero like Leto unless she’s manipulated?

If the game went full hentai logic, I could accept it as just a silly fantasy focused on the NTR aspect. But from what I’ve seen, Henteria games aren’t built to completely abandon logic just to justify exciting scenes.

Even in HC2, there were already some shortcuts and unrealistic jumps. For example, Celis initiating a sex scene with Eydir in the glass room felt off from a narrative standpoint. Historically speaking, after Noah had confessed his feelings to her, that should have addressed most of her insecurities. Yet despite that emotional progression, she still ended up engaging with Eydir and ultimately staying with him.

I could see similar things happening with Rose—her giving in to sex, using toys to enhance the artifact’s power, maybe even having encounters with strangers. After she loses her virginity, she can’t face Leto, but over time her guilt seems to fade. I don’t really understand why or how she could fall in love with the Duke.

What I hope for, unlike HC2, is that each girl eventually realizes she was manipulated by her interloper and feels extreme guilt toward Leto, like Celis did toward Noah in HC2’s true ending. That was one of the most satisfying parts of HC2—seeing real confrontation and remorse.

In my dream scenario, there could even be a brutal revenge route:

• Jazon gets stabbed while threatening the women.
• They all take turns finishing him off.
• When Leto arrives, Jazon begs for help, but Leto refuses, telling him he knows everything and will never forgive him.

The more detestable the villains are, the more satisfying it is to destroy them—just like in some of HC2’s endings. I hope HC3 will have more detailed, non-rushed revenge scenes, maybe even magical chastity belts for the interlopers that crush them in pain whenever they get aroused.

But honestly, at this point, I’m going to stop speculating. I have no idea what N_Taii has planned, and I want to be surprised. HC1 had a unique NTR ending where everything was erased, HC2 tried a different approach, and HC3 introduces multiple non-blood-related girls and starts with Leto already dating Rose. There’s even potential for some reverse-NTR with Helen, Cyanna, or Lily.

Unlike Noah, Leto feels more mature, stable, and cool. I can’t see the women turning against him unless they’re actively corrupted by an artifact that makes them forget him.

As for Ulrog being Cyanna’s childhood friend… I honestly don’t care. He’s clearly a bad guy, and I think Cyanna deserves better. I don't even saw him during the Leto's childhood with Cyanna.

I’ll just wait for the story endings and see how it all plays out before giving my final thoughts—just like I did with HC2. Even if I don’t get the exact ending I want, this game has already inspired me for my own NTR project, and I can appreciate it for that.

 

[EdenGenesis]

What we do know for sure is that the Duke is going to give Leto a chance to join him. Like I said, he’ll probably put him in a situation where Leto finds out the truth about what’s going on—of course, after laying the option of joining him on the table.


What I’m not sure about is whether Leto will be like Cassio and get hit with the whole truth at once—I mean, Cassio found out what was going on with all the girls consecutively—or if it’ll be more like Noa, who uncovered the truth girl by girl; first with Haylen and Lyly in their respective side quests, and then later with Cyanna and Rose during the final main quest.


I don’t really think it’ll go that way, though, because the netorare ending,where Leto still doesn’t realize what’s happening. So I’d say the revelation probably starts when he finds out what’s going on with Rose. Then, when Leto tries to find someone to lean on, he goes to Cyanna—but sees her having sex with Ulrod. Then he tries to turn to Lyly, but she’s with Nezar. The last one left would be Haylen—and we already know how that ends.


So Leto would end up at the point where he feels like he has no one left to turn to… and that’s when those two girls who appeared in his dream at the beginning of the game would show up. XD



I know a lot of people don’t like a deus ex machina XD, but we all know that, one way or another, those two girls who appeared in Leto’s dreams—possibly succubi—are definitely coming back. Can you imagine if one of them is a succubus and the other is Sister Selen, the one who was with Noa on the ship when Leto was a child? And maybe the succubus found Selen and turned her into her pet XD.
Or maybe the second girl is just the daughter of the first—like, a mother-and-daughter succubus duo. So many possibilities.


Anyway, back to the whole deus ex machina thing—it’s kind of inevitable, because there’s always some mysterious entity pulling the strings from the shadows. What we’re all hoping, though, is that Leto doesn’t end up becoming a pet for those beings like what happened with Noa.


If Leto gets his revenge, let it be his revenge—not something handed to him by some mysterious being giving him a power pulled out of their ass XD.

Honestly, I just can’t see Leto ever willingly joining the Duke. From what I’ve played of HC3, it’s obvious the Duke is actively trying to separate him from Rose—he even talks about sending Leto away, which would let him keep Rose for himself. Unless the Duke pulls off some extreme manipulation or tricks Leto into a no-win situation, having him join the very man who corrupted his girlfriend would feel completely off and cheap.

I haven’t played HC1 yet (though I’ve heard a lot about it and really want to try it someday), but from what I know of Henteria’s storytelling, it makes more sense for Leto to discover the truth piece by piece like in HC2. He’d probably realize something’s wrong with Rose first, then turn to Cyanna or Lyly for support—only to face more betrayal. That gradual isolation fits the tone of the series better than a sudden “all-at-once” revelation.

As for the two girls from his dream, I can imagine them coming back, maybe even with a twist like a succubus mother-and-daughter duo—but I really hope it’s not just a deus ex machina. Henteria’s strongest moments are when the hero earns his revenge or resolution on his own terms, not because a random supernatural being bails him out.

 

[EdenGenesis]

I just noticed something interesting: even late in HC3, Leto has never actually caught Rose, Cyanna, Lily, or Helen with another man. This makes HC3 feel completely different from HC1 and HC2, which is honestly encouraging.

We have choices that determine the ending—NTR, Revenge, or Forgiving—but I’m still unsure how much they affect the frequency and intensity of the NTR scenes or how far each heroine “falls” before the finale.

I would’ve loved a scene where Rose tests Leto indirectly, maybe by talking about a “friend” who cheated, just to see his reaction. If Leto said it was unforgivable and that the girl had been duped, her silent reaction would’ve been priceless. It would really show that she knows deep down what she’s doing with the Duke isn’t normal, and it could push her toward an internal breakdown.

The Duke constantly downplays Rose’s betrayal to keep her obedient, saying it’s all to “save Leto and the people.” But if she ever discovers it was all a manipulation to get her in his bed, the guilt and fallout could be incredible.

I’m also curious who really caused the death of Rose’s parents. If it’s the Duke, Brutus, and Ulrog—or even linked to Jazon’s father—it would amplify the girls’ guilt and make any eventual confrontation far more satisfying.

More than the H-scenes, I’m looking forward to the moment when the girls realize they were deceived and feel real remorse. And if the ending lets us punish Rose by leaving her and choosing Cyanna, Helen, or Lily instead, that would be great.

As for Ulrog, I can’t stand him. He’s just using Cyanna. From what I’ve seen, she gave herself to him out of duty and to protect Leto, not out of love. She’s a bit corrupted by hentai logic, but still redeemable—especially since she gets angry when Ulrog endangers Leto.

If HC3 leans into confrontation, guilt, and true revenge, it could easily become the most impactful entry in the series.

 

[Jeferss12]

I just noticed something interesting: even late in HC3, Leto has never actually caught Rose, Cyanna, Lily, or Helen with another man. This makes HC3 feel completely different from HC1 and HC2, which is honestly encouraging.

We have choices that determine the ending—NTR, Revenge, or Forgiving—but I’m still unsure how much they affect the frequency and intensity of the NTR scenes or how far each heroine “falls” before the finale.

I would’ve loved a scene where Rose tests Leto indirectly, maybe by talking about a “friend” who cheated, just to see his reaction. If Leto said it was unforgivable and that the girl had been duped, her silent reaction would’ve been priceless. It would really show that she knows deep down what she’s doing with the Duke isn’t normal, and it could push her toward an internal breakdown.

The Duke constantly downplays Rose’s betrayal to keep her obedient, saying it’s all to “save Leto and the people.” But if she ever discovers it was all a manipulation to get her in his bed, the guilt and fallout could be incredible.

I’m also curious who really caused the death of Rose’s parents. If it’s the Duke, Brutus, and Ulrog—or even linked to Jazon’s father—it would amplify the girls’ guilt and make any eventual confrontation far more satisfying.

More than the H-scenes, I’m looking forward to the moment when the girls realize they were deceived and feel real remorse. And if the ending lets us punish Rose by leaving her and choosing Cyanna, Helen, or Lily instead, that would be great.

As for Ulrog, I can’t stand him. He’s just using Cyanna. From what I’ve seen, she gave herself to him out of duty and to protect Leto, not out of love. She’s a bit corrupted by hentai logic, but still redeemable—especially since she gets angry when Ulrog endangers Leto.

If HC3 leans into confrontation, guilt, and true revenge, it could easily become the most impactful entry in the series.

I’m not saying that Leto would willingly choose to join the Duke—that’s obviously never going to happen. What I’m saying is that the Duke puts Leto in a situation where he discovers the truth, and then places the choice on the table, like, “Join me if you understand now.” Kind of like the Duke trying to show Leto that all women are liars and traitors or something like that.
But of course, no matter what happens, we know Leto would never become one of the Duke’s men.


So either Leto chooses to stay ignorant about what’s going on, or he uncovers the truth and decides to take revenge on everyone… or forgives them all… or tries to stop the Duke but fails, which would lead to the second ending—Netorare.

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[Oriandu]

I just think it's extremely important that N_Taii hits the nail on the head in terms of how he approaches Rose and the duke at the end. It should not be love of any kind. It's made abundantly clear that Rose is not particularly fond of the duke. No matter how much they clearly enjoy fucking the shit out of each other, the simple fact of the matter is that their relationship does not extend past the pleasure. Their relationship is based on manipulation, lust, and a twisted sense of responsibility.

What i'd like to see happen when the reveal of Rose's debauchery with the duke is being built up is for there to be a moment where things are in a position where Leto is able to do something that would save the day. A very tight window where he would able to do something like bring Rose to meet her parents and then they would ally with his friends among the native peoples of the island to defeat whatever it is the duke is planning, power the peacekeepers, and bring lasting safety and peace to the land. But the duke leaves her with an invite for some dick riding and she says to herself "Leto can wait a little bit longer." and that little bit longer turns into a marathon fuck session to power the peacekeepers either for part of the duke's scheme or to repulse invaders. Leto goes to find her, he finds them fucking in the ballroom on the throne or something like that, and in that moment Rose chooses pleasure and power over whatever is Leto has to offer, sending him off without her to save the day.

 

[Jeferss12]

I just think it's extremely important that N_Taii hits the nail on the head in terms of how he approaches Rose and the duke at the end. It should not be love of any kind. It's made abundantly clear that Rose is not particularly fond of the duke. No matter how much they clearly enjoy fucking the shit out of each other, the simple fact of the matter is that their relationship does not extend past the pleasure. Their relationship is based on manipulation, lust, and a twisted sense of responsibility.

What i'd like to see happen when the reveal of Rose's debauchery with the duke is being built up is for there to be a moment where things are in a position where Leto is able to do something that would save the day. A very tight window where he would able to do something like bring Rose to meet her parents and then they would ally with his friends among the native peoples of the island to defeat whatever it is the duke is planning, power the peacekeepers, and bring lasting safety and peace to the land. But the duke leaves her with an invite for some dick riding and she says to herself "Leto can wait a little bit longer." and that little bit longer turns into a marathon fuck session to power the peacekeepers either for part of the duke's scheme or to repulse invaders. Leto goes to find her, he finds them fucking in the ballroom on the throne or something like that, and in that moment Rose chooses pleasure and power over whatever is Leto has to offer, sending him off without her to save the day.

At the point where Rose’s corruption has already set in, she pretty much pushes aside anything she’s supposed to do with Leto, prioritizing her “duty sessions” with the Duke instead. So if the story ever gets to the part where Leto asks her to meet up so he can explain everything—what’s going on with her parents, the island natives, the towers, and the amulets—she’d probably blow it off in favor of having sex with the Duke.


Even Cyanna, Lyly, and Haylen are already at the point where anything involving Leto is of the lowest importance to them. XD
Like that mission at the brothel quest, when Rose told Cyanna that Leto was going on a dangerous mission— and Cyanna couldn’t have given three centimeters of shit when she heard it. XD

 

[Oriandu]

Rose isn't quite that far gone yet. She may have "pledged" her loyalty, but if Leto showed up with a way to save the day she'd at least entertain the idea. The fact of the matter is that Rose is inwardly a slut but in her most recent content she still professed to love Leto. Her deciding to fuck the duke over meeting Leto at an important story moment would be the final piece of her corruption outside of getting creampied, which I might add would be a great moment for Leto to walk in when he goes to look for her. Think of it. It's night, possibly raining, Leto is waiting for Rose to show up so he can take her to see her father and she never shows. He goes to find her and stumbles upon them just as the duke creampies Rose for the first time. That'd be... pretty brutal.

 

[MrAnonymous97]

I reckon it is possible to bridge that gap. Seeing the “love” element stripped away as well would be quite satisfying if it is done properly with emphasis on that. We are getting to the point where the corruption has tilted Rose and Leto’s only real card left is the love angle. Personally, I would like to see that taken from him too. Just completes it.

We already know that appearance wise there is very little for Rose to be genuinely drawn to, classic ugly bastard trope. But if he still manages to win her over despite those obstacles it does show skill on the Duke's part, which I can appreciate. I want to see an operator at work, not just some grunt. There have been flashes where he shows Rose he is not entirely the out and out villain he appears to be. Whether that is genuine or just a ruse remains to be seen.

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I have been waiting for some movement in the main plot myself so I have not dipped back in for a while, just going off memory here.

 

[EdenGenesis]

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to share some insights I recently got directly from N_tai regarding Henteria Chronicles 3, especially about the endings and how the structure will compare to HC2. I’ve been chatting with him to clarify some of the biggest questions we’ve all had—hopefully this helps set expectations as we head toward the finale!

First off, there will be as many endings in HC3 as in HC2—so four in total—but with a twist. There won’t be a “True Ending” this time. Instead, HC3 will feature two distinct NTR endings:

• In one, the girls basically become the property of the antagonists.
• In the other, they pretty much end up sleeping with everyone.

There will still be a proper revenge ending, but the focus there isn’t so much on Leto rebuilding himself as a person—more like Leto fully embracing revenge and falling into the “dark side.” If you’re looking for a route where Leto genuinely recovers or moves on, that’s more what the happy ending is for.

As for multiple “sub-endings” or alternate outcomes, N_tai said that’s not in the cards for HC3—he’s sticking to four main endings, with no extra “branches” after those. (He did mention that writing, developing, and properly fleshing out even four different endings is already a ton of work.)

He also addressed something I know a lot of us care about: how much the endings actually show the girls’ thoughts, regrets, or lack thereof. He wants to do a better job here than in HC2, where sometimes the motivations or feelings were too vague or off-screen, making some redemptions feel forced. In HC3, he plans to end the main story a bit earlier, so that the “big betrayals” (like Celis and Aywin in HC2) happen within the endings themselves, not before. This way, each ending can really focus on the consequences and emotional fallout—whether that’s justice, revenge, or something more bittersweet.

Finally, I’ve sent him some of the community’s ideas and feedback (including some pretty intense ones, haha). He said he’s taken note of them—even if a few might be too brutal to fit into the revenge ending as planned!

TL;DR:

• Four main endings (like HC2), no “True Ending,” but two separate NTR outcomes
• Revenge ending is about payback, not personal healing—that’s what the happy ending is for
• No extra sub-endings or branches, just four well-developed routes
• He’s aiming for clearer, more emotionally satisfying consequences and closure in each ending this time

Hope that clears things up for anyone who was curious! If you have more questions or things you want me to ask, let me know—always happy to pass on feedback to N_tai. And, of course, let’s see what those endings bring…

 

[Komdot]

so that the “big betrayals” (like Celis and Aywin in HC2) happen within the endings themselves, not before.

Mmmh, this completely changes the game for me. I like hearing that. The endings will be more elaborate than before, so I like that idea. It makes me eager to play each one of them.

 

[zanset44]

Man people REALLY do want NTR games to have something other than NTR. Like chill bruh.

I guess that's an indicator that this game has reached new audience. I haven't seen anything as much as this in the previous games.

I just wished for N_taii to keep delivering this quality NTR. I've seen many creators started to make less and less of them like it's some kind of taboo thing to do (like bruh it's still porn).

 

[Atlan]

quest 20. the slutty nuisance. it says to read a book before bed fridath, evening in your room. but i dont see any book or any marker . help please

 

[N_taii]

Mmmh, this completely changes the game for me. I like hearing that. The endings will be more elaborate than before, so I like that idea. It makes me eager to play each one of them.

Indeed. Rather than having the main story end, credits roll, and then a bunch on scenes related to each ending, I really want each ending to conclude the story in a way that feels more organic. It's hard to believe in redemption when the girls have already betrayed the MC, but what if the betrayal is part of the endings, than means it might never happen in some of them, like the happy ending.
One might argue betrayal has already happened, but the girls have never willingly worked against Leto's interests so far or tried to undermine him.

quest 20. the slutty nuisance. it says to read a book before bed fridath, evening in your room. but i dont see any book or any marker . help please

First of all, are you playing part.2 or part.1? If you're using your old saves for Quest 20 in part.2, it won't work since Quest 20 is from part.1 instead.

 

[Jeferss12]

Indeed. Rather than having the main story end, credits roll, and then a bunch on scenes related to each ending, I really want each ending to conclude the story in a way that feels more organic. It's hard to believe in redemption when the girls have already betrayed the MC, but what if the betrayal is part of the endings, than means it might never happen in some of them, like the happy ending.
One might argue betrayal has already happened, but the girls have never willingly worked against Leto's interests so far or tried to undermine him.


First of all, are you playing part.2 or part.1? If you're using your old saves for Quest 20 in part.2, it won't work since Quest 20 is from part.1 instead.

Well, I think that will going to start a debate about what each person considers betrayal. I mean, I know you see betrayal—or at least that’s how I think you see it—as when the girl willingly does or participates in actions that go against the integrity of the person she claimed to love XD.
But I also know that many others see betrayal as any act by the girl that damages the trust that the person who loved her had in her.
Just like there are many other ways to perceive what betrayal really is. It’s honestly a really complex and difficult topic to tackle XD.

I know that, so far, none of the girls have done anything that directly harms Leto’s integrity or well-being. But the fact that up to this point in the story they’ve constantly lied to him while engaging in carnal relationships with other men—from my perspective, that’s already a betrayal of his trust. Yes, maybe they were all put in situations that forced their hands and led them to where they are now.

But take Lily, for example—Leto offered to help her countless times to raise the money she needed to achieve her dream, and she constantly rejected him, even getting mad at him, even though she knew Leto was doing it with no selfish intent. And in the end, she ended up in her current situation because of her own stupidity.

Haylen? Same as Lily. Leto warned her several times about what Jazon was like with women. But her own stupidity—and supposed “good heart” in wanting to help others—put her in the mess she’s in now.

Cyanna? Well, she has the excuse that, being a city guard officer, she has duties and responsibilities that kept her from being there for Leto in dangerous situations. But in her own stupidity, she decides to trust this friend she hadn’t seen in years, knowing full well that he has bad intentions and is using Leto as collateral damage to get closer to her. And even being aware of all that, she still chooses to ignore it—driven by the guilt she feels because that friend went through so much with the pirates to save her.

And Rose? Well, lots of excuses and complicated stuff. I mean, she’s a princess. She has the responsibility of protecting her kingdom, and she thinks her parents have just died. Then the Duke shows up and tells her that the only way to protect the kingdom is to perform sexual acts with him.
So I guess she’d hide behind the argument that everything she’s done—and the betrayal of Leto’s trust—was done in the name of duty to her people.

But even then, there’s her stupidity. She’s a princess, supposedly educated to rule, to know the history of her country and the towers. But I guess her father, the king, kept a lot of things hidden from her, and that’s why she’s now stuck in this helpless position where she can’t find another solution.

 

[EdenGenesis]

Indeed. Rather than having the main story end, credits roll, and then a bunch on scenes related to each ending, I really want each ending to conclude the story in a way that feels more organic. It's hard to believe in redemption when the girls have already betrayed the MC, but what if the betrayal is part of the endings, than means it might never happen in some of them, like the happy ending.
One might argue betrayal has already happened, but the girls have never willingly worked against Leto's interests so far or tried to undermine him.


First of all, are you playing part.2 or part.1? If you're using your old saves for Quest 20 in part.2, it won't work since Quest 20 is from part.1 instead.

I really like the direction you’re taking with how endings are handled. Having each ending organically conclude the story (instead of just rolling credits and tacking on a few scenes) is a huge improvement, especially in a game where betrayal and redemption are central themes. It just feels more believable when the truly “definitive” acts—whether loyalty or betrayal—are woven into the player’s route and choices, not something that’s already set in stone before the endings even start.

Your point about the girls never actively working against Leto up to now is actually pretty important. It keeps the possibility of a genuine, earned redemption open, because the characters haven’t reached that point of no return unless the player pushes the story in that direction. It adds a ton of weight to the major turning points in each route.

Well, I think that will going to start a debate about what each person considers betrayal. I mean, I know you see betrayal—or at least that’s how I think you see it—as when the girl willingly does or participates in actions that go against the integrity of the person she claimed to love XD.
But I also know that many others see betrayal as any act by the girl that damages the trust that the person who loved her had in her.
Just like there are many other ways to perceive what betrayal really is. It’s honestly a really complex and difficult topic to tackle XD.

Totally agree—what counts as “betrayal” in stories like this is a deeply personal (and often hotly debated) topic. For some, it’s about intent: if the girl makes a conscious choice to hurt the MC or cross a certain line, it’s unforgivable. For others, any act that breaks trust, even if she was pressured, manipulated, or confused, feels like a betrayal just the same.

That’s actually part of what keeps the NTR genre (and games like HC3) so interesting: there’s a whole spectrum of gray area, and everyone will walk away with different feelings about the characters and what they did. I think it’s a strength when a game can acknowledge and explore that complexity, instead of trying to force everyone into the same interpretation.

It definitely makes for some intense discussions—but also for more memorable storytelling!

 

[Komdot]

Kinda off-topic, but I left Haylen a tribute in wplace, here in my country.

 

[Songoku2724]

When will update 21 release on itch?

 

[WankerDxD]

I didn't know that the game is without art, and now I'm forced to continue playing because I liked the story.