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The save files that N_Taii provided for the Update are most likely in Partial-PoV and that is why you didn't see the scenes as they happened, when i reached the campsite with Jazon i realised that something was weird because based on the dual conversation between Cyanna&Ulrod and The Duke&Rose, there should've been a scene or something, plus then i remembered this PoL where Leto and Jazon was walking and for me it did not show the girls on the side.
I want a redemption arc for Jazon. In the good ending I need him being a total bro and saving Leto's life.
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We don't know his backstory enough to see him as a victim. I believe he has a one-sided love for the queen so he must be holding some resentment for the king.
Took the dive for you, and personally I'm going to have to tell you that it wasn't worth it for me. I was hoping that the mystery character would be at least tangential to the main characters, but they were really more flashbacks for the story than development of the other characters. Personally, for characters that we don't have any build-up for, I didn't enjoy how I spent around 80% of the update watching those scenes.If anyone does have access to the $20 version, I would deeply appreciate reading some general feedback over the next few days. No need for any specific spoilers, but it won't be out on itch.io until the weekend, and I'm... pretty on the fence after reading the changelog, where half of the main story scenes are devoted to some mystery character. Just general impressions, I suppose, of whether this feels like there is some momentum or if it's another huge sidetrack like the undercover questline.
Because right now, I'm hopelessly torn between taking a chance on it, or waiting to buy the next update instead and just playing both of them back-to-back sometime in December.
I usually always pay for any of the Rose and Cyanna updates, but I'd say the scenes were short for the wait (quality is still good and you can tell the animation and art is being worked on though). Actually, the Cyanna scene was so short I didn't even expect it to cut off without another scene. Their story also didn't move much compared to some backdrop involving the "mystery character" though.
If you saw the undercover questline as a huge sidetrack, then I think you'd find this update to be worse in terms of momentum, development (of Rose/Cyanna, not the story).
Finally got around to starting the update... and I'm still not a fan of the split character scenes.
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Wasn't he venting about the King while banging one the maids. He for sure hates the King, probably just loves the Queen more than he hates the King.
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Well, this update has been really fucking dark so far.
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Story-related spoilers. Pretty big ones. Don't read Oriandu's post or mine if you haven't played Update 16 yet and want to keep things interesting.
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Back in my day we used to call that courting!
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I haven't played the update yet so I'm only working from partial information from what people have shared and might change my mind once I've seen the whole context... but in theory, I am 100% on board with the world of Henteria leaning a little darker in tone.
Hell, I still regularly think back to how immediately grimdark the prologue of Chapter 1 was — probably my favorite part of the whole game — where it establishes right out of the gate how monsters take women prisoner to keep them as sex slaves and gives you the briefest glimpse of what that looks like. But then it feels like that whole aspect of the worldbuilding never really comes up again in a meaningful way, because the actual villains of Chapter 1 behave more like humans than the monsters you are shown at the beginning. Even once the corruption is fully set in by the end, you never see Eleonora fall that far because her fate at the hands of Ezekiel doesn't line up with what you see in the prologue, when it feels like that would have been the most ironic ending for her as the invincible valkyrie who could never be defeated in combat; instead, she just becomes submissive to Ezekiel in a way that feels functionally indistinguishable from Zeno and Aywin in Chapter 2, which says a lot about how "human" the relationship feels.
Of course it's not hard to understand why that has never been a major focus when you are rolling the dice with Patreon if you focus on it too much and that it's hard to stretch that "captured by monsters" premise out into a long-form narrative when it's so straight-forward. But I do still wish it would pop back up every once in awhile as part of the setting, even if it was just with "expendable" side-characters like Alys or ambient scenery -- like instead of the bug hunting expedition that Leto went on, it was clearing out a large goblin nest and freeing a bunch of their captives. Or there could've been a guided stealth sequence of sneaking through the goblin camp to unlock a gate from the inside for the rest of the guards with a lot of the reusable sprite animations happening in the background.
(Also yes, this *is* a weirdly specific tangent but I have run out of NTR games to keep my brain busy.)
Hell, I still regularly think back to how immediately grimdark the prologue of Chapter 1 was — probably my favorite part of the whole game — where it establishes right out of the gate how monsters take women prisoner to keep them as sex slaves and gives you the briefest glimpse of what that looks like. But then it feels like that whole aspect of the worldbuilding never really comes up again in a meaningful way, because the actual villains of Chapter 1 behave more like humans than the monsters you are shown at the beginning. Even once the corruption is fully set in by the end, you never see Eleonora fall that far because her fate at the hands of Ezekiel doesn't line up with what you see in the prologue, when it feels like that would have been the most ironic ending for her as the invincible valkyrie who could never be defeated in combat; instead, she just becomes submissive to Ezekiel in a way that feels functionally indistinguishable from Zeno and Aywin in Chapter 2, which says a lot about how "human" the relationship feels.
Of course it's not hard to understand why that has never been a major focus when you are rolling the dice with Patreon if you focus on it too much and that it's hard to stretch that "captured by monsters" premise out into a long-form narrative when it's so straight-forward. But I do still wish it would pop back up every once in awhile as part of the setting, even if it was just with "expendable" side-characters like Alys or ambient scenery -- like instead of the bug hunting expedition that Leto went on, it was clearing out a large goblin nest and freeing a bunch of their captives. Or there could've been a guided stealth sequence of sneaking through the goblin camp to unlock a gate from the inside for the rest of the guards with a lot of the reusable sprite animations happening in the background.
(Also yes, this *is* a weirdly specific tangent but I have run out of NTR games to keep my brain busy.)
I'm completely fine with the game leaning a little dark, but I could have done without the extremely specific spoiler ahead:
*cough* Anywhoodles, the game going dark is okay, it kind of has to for the endings to work.
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*cough* Anywhoodles, the game going dark is okay, it kind of has to for the endings to work.