while i agree with your reasoning i don't think this is what will happen, i think in the next Rose update she will properly get creampied and N_Tai was just saving it for later as it would be way different than what N_Tai did in HC1 AND HC2. ideally i would rather she does not get creampied until the endings as then i can somehow see the happy ending making sense as i see it as the point of no return.
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Would be quite boring if it would stay at anal only for rose until endings ngl.
I haven't followed this discussion in depth but so far HC1 and 2 had a true end so it feels weird not having it in HC3. What is the reasoning behind it?
Me personally I really, really don't like the idea of "Every end can be your true end" type of thing. I like having different endings but to be able to actually finish and conclude with a game in my mind I need a canon or true end I could work towards to.
It actually dampens my enjoyment of the whole experience if a game is leaving me to my own devices in terms of endings especially in very story driven games. Hard to explain.
So I hope you can make up your mind before final release.....pls
Just to make sure. Impregnation only or do you actually want to show pregnancy scenes? Standing CGs?
Might be difficult to pull off with pixel art and it would generally need to involve a timeskip......yeah I think I just answered my question myself
Not a fan of impregnation only but it is what it is.
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In my opinion, I think Rose’s creampie scene will happen during the ritual Duke mentioned. The Duke will use the same line as always — something like “It’s necessary to protect the kingdom.”
Depending on the choices we make throughout the game:
And well, I simply think N_taii has delayed that because Rose is the heir to the throne, and they don’t want to risk the whole pregnancy issue. Although that argument loses strength with the topic of the potions that prevent women from getting pregnant — it’s impossible that someone like the Duke, with so many resources and so much information, wouldn’t know about that.
Depending on the choices we make throughout the game:
- Happy Ending: Rose helps Leto stop the ritual, so there’s no creampie from the Duke.
- Revenge Ending: Rose participates in the ritual, possible Duke creampie with Rose, and consequently Leto’s revenge.
- NTR Ending: In either of the two, Rose sees Leto as indecisive, weak, and unreliable. She follows the Duke’s orders, lets him creampie her, and ends up pregnant with the Duke’s baby — leaving Leto to fail at whatever he tries, or simply do nothing at all.
And well, I simply think N_taii has delayed that because Rose is the heir to the throne, and they don’t want to risk the whole pregnancy issue. Although that argument loses strength with the topic of the potions that prevent women from getting pregnant — it’s impossible that someone like the Duke, with so many resources and so much information, wouldn’t know about that.
Is steam version included the extra scene from $20 version? What make it different from $5 version from patreon?
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Some of us like and actively seek out anal-only content.
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Thats totally fine.
Everyone has their preferences. I just hope that rose will get more vaginal action with the finally most anticipating creampie scene.
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i love it when you have different possible outcomes, even tho its unlogical.
i can't and dont have the heart to read his games from start to finish, i don't enjoy a fully ntr game,yeah it makes me sad XD, but i always play his endings when the game gets completed cause, i like the tension and drama when the mc finds out about the betrayals, and either forgives or takes revenge.(i read a summary of the game to know what has happened up till the endings.)
especially the endings in this series are good, true that hc2 could have a better revenge ending, but it was still satisfying.
i always prefer to see that the mc isn't just a cuck(i actually dont like when the mc is a cuck at all), and depending on what you like, can actually stand up for himself at the end.
theres always fun to have different possible outcomes.
i hope (i know) we have this in this game too (and i truly hope, N_taii if you see my comment, let there be hell for the girls and villians in the revenge ending, they should get punished severely, even in happy end)
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if you found the title of the game you described, i would be happy to hear it.
edit: also, if you can recommend me some games where the mc actually confronts the girl for cheating, and the girl gets punished and regrets, i would really appreciate it.
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N_Taii doesn't really like hurting the girls in the revenge endings in his games (in HC2 the worst they go through is slave sex which isn't really a that much different from what they were already doing), the thing that i found unsatisfying was that in HC2 revenge ending the it didn't feel like Noah was taking revenge as he became a completely different careacter, i hope that Leto will still be mostly the same man in the revenge ending or if he changes its not so drastic that he becomes super evil as then the revenge wont feel like the characters are getting what they deserve.
by punished, i meant emotionally, like they be broken and REALLY understand what they've done. and i agree with the rest, hope for peak revenge and happy endings.
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I agree.
The ending of HC2 is especially good, where the girls aren't punished, Noah suffers, and the villain just sits in jail, and that's it?
Noah continues to suffer, and the question arises: Guys, where's the good ending here?
That's why I wanted HC3 to have a fair ending.
For example, I have an idea that revenge will most likely be like this: Leto learns all this, and Rose's pregnancy with Duke, and what's going on behind his back. Haylen, Cyanna. He's devastated, goes to the tower, looks at it, and in a fit of anger, destroys the crystal, blaming him for all the suffering. The crystal is destroyed and the monsters begin to attack... blood, carnage, a happy ending.
But in a good way, it's the other way around, for example, when Duke is exposed and discovers all this dirty machinations, Leto and his loyal allies, Shani's tribe for example, begin to overthrow Duke. But Duke has captured the crystal and threatens to break it, so the monsters will attack. And as if he had broken it, Leto approaches the crystal, trying to do something, but the crystal answered Leto's call, acknowledging him as King. And it glowed with such power that it destroyed all the monsters around it. And Leto became king. And for Rose, Haylen, Cyanna, it will be more of an emotional punishment; Leto doesn't want to see them or know them. The girls can no longer stay in the city and leave, where they become whores, but who cares about Leto? Right? He has Shani, a son was born, they are happy, the city is thriving. And what about Rose? Who cares, she's probably eating worms?
But this is my opinion on how things will develop.
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Wow, this was truly an unforgettable experience after spending 3 days playing up to the current update.
I haven't played 1 and 2, so I probably don't fully understand, but I must say that after reading from page 360 up to the present, I was a bit confused. What I see is that people seem to be expressing their dislike for the NTR element in an NTR game, and the characters to become gradually corrupted, in a game that has the three letters NTR boldly stamped in red in its title. I feel like I am the only one who wants to see the characters fall LOL.
I haven't played 1 and 2, so I probably don't fully understand, but I must say that after reading from page 360 up to the present, I was a bit confused. What I see is that people seem to be expressing their dislike for the NTR element in an NTR game, and the characters to become gradually corrupted, in a game that has the three letters NTR boldly stamped in red in its title. I feel like I am the only one who wants to see the characters fall LOL.
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kinks and tastes expand like colors, its about how much a game offers to you, there are many plain ntr or vanilla games without any emotional impact, and there are games like hc, that the most erotic scene you get is a moving pixel on another moving pixel, but you can really feel the pain, because of the writing.
when a game can have multiple outcomes and different choices, you have more freedom on what ending you want to choose, or rather, you just want to see what happes «if» i went on another path.
the more freedom you have, the more people with different opinions play your game.
and before you come and say «but you get cucked throughout the game and that can't be changed nor it can be avoided, i know and thats why i only play the endings, thats too much pain for me to handle and i can't read it from start to finish, i only read summary xD. many people play avoidable ntr games because they want a challenge and risk of losing, some just want to see all the ntrs and dont care about anything else, some like to feel the pain and have the option to revenge at the end, some want redemption. so, its not that strange to see these kind of messages, its about tastes, and tastes expand like colors and have different shades.
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I was a bit naive to think that everyone who plays this game must necessarily enjoy NTR (I thought that no matter which ending you aim for, you have to see the NTR, so you shouldn't dislike it). Perhaps I should look at things from more perspectives instead of confused.
if you really hate ntr, you wouldn't play this game at all you know? so the majority of people in this thread enjoy or at least can tolerate ntr to some extent, so your not completely wrong, but i believe there is more to it than some think there is, like the meme «is ntr avoidable» that many people laugh to is something that many people do enjoy about in an eroge game.im the type who can tolerate it if i have the option to revenge,redemption or at least avoid it sometimes you know? it can be strange but i like the satisfaction of getting revenge on those who betrayed you and this game does it well, another game which is one of my favorites is «My...» that recently got an update, you can avoid the ntr and it does it so well that you really want to focus, just to avoid the tragedies.
Just got around to playing the latest update, and I do think that people are being a bit unfair to both Cyanna and Rose. At first, I too thought that they were somewhat cruel and dismissive of Leto. However, when you look at it from their perspective, it’s easier to see that they really are the victims.
Both Rose and Cyanna were at first essentially emotionally blackmailed into indulging in sexual activities to save the things they love, both the people of the city, but more importantly, Leto. After that blackmail, they felt an immense amount of guilt. However, due to the pleasure they receive from sex, they temporarily forget that guilt. The more they indulge, the less guilt they feel. So it’s essentially an evil cycle where: blackmail ⇒ guilt ⇒ intense orgasm/pleasure ⇒ forget said guilt ⇒ repeat.
I therefore think it’s unfair to judge them too harshly, as the majority of people would fall into the same trap if they were in the girls’ shoes. Hell, most people are addicted to even the most basic things such as caffeine and get grumpy or sad without it, so imagine the high both Rose and Cyanna get, and why that becomes their gateway to forget all the bad things around them
Both Rose and Cyanna were at first essentially emotionally blackmailed into indulging in sexual activities to save the things they love, both the people of the city, but more importantly, Leto. After that blackmail, they felt an immense amount of guilt. However, due to the pleasure they receive from sex, they temporarily forget that guilt. The more they indulge, the less guilt they feel. So it’s essentially an evil cycle where: blackmail ⇒ guilt ⇒ intense orgasm/pleasure ⇒ forget said guilt ⇒ repeat.
I therefore think it’s unfair to judge them too harshly, as the majority of people would fall into the same trap if they were in the girls’ shoes. Hell, most people are addicted to even the most basic things such as caffeine and get grumpy or sad without it, so imagine the high both Rose and Cyanna get, and why that becomes their gateway to forget all the bad things around them
Also this game gives me the saddest wanks not gonna lie, like the post nut clarity is just depression